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Title:CDE on Digital UNIXonment - CDE
Notice:CDE on Digital UNIX - for CDE on VMS, please see Note 1.3
Moderator:UNXA::SYSTEM
Created:Tue Nov 23 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:660
Total number of notes:2674

630.0. "sysman -display host:0. ??" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" (gk) Tue Apr 08 1997 07:06


Hi,

	one of our customers has taken delivery of 1 * 8200, and 2 * 4100.

	The 8200 has no graphics console but the 4100s do.

	They all live in an incredibly cold computer room.


	outside in the office they have an Hp workstation (not such 
	good taste after all!) and they want to "manage" the Digital systems
	i.e. run the various sysman applications from the hp workstation

	the various applications do work - just a simple setenv DISPLAY host:0
	and issue the command and the display goes over  
	(having done a xhost othersystem on the HP first)

	This seems rather unweildy (there area lot of commands) But When I 
	try a dtfile -dir /var/.dt/appconfig/appmanager/C/System_Admin
	I get inconsistent results.

	I can "drill down" but not go back up again (sometimes)...
	and I can't figure the exact circumstances in which it fails.

	should I be root, or can I be anyone?
	should i use the -dir switch or should I cd to the System_Admin
	directory?
	
	It gives me a tooltalk error message:
 
	"The request to service this action has failed. A tooltalk 
	connection could not be established."
	
	I've duplicated the failure (well it appears to be the same) to
	an ULTRIX system too.
	
	Ideally the HP user would rsh a shell on the Digital UNIx systems
	and display back to the HP.

	Is there a way to reliably do this?

	When I close dtfile it still leaves processes on the systems -
	dtsession and dtfile - is that expected?

	Also

	if I try a DISPLAY to the 4100s from the 8200 it complains about
	the directory - but instead of the directory that was typed on
	the command  I get a /net/8200hostname/ as a prefix to it!

	hmmm

	I don't think I've quite got the hang of this stuff yet!

	hope someone who has can help!

	cheers

	Gary

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630.1UNXA::BEUTENo good deed ever goes unpunished...Wed Apr 09 1997 14:3011

	Take a look at note 335, especially the last reply, and also
	take a look at the release notes for V4.0 for CDE and remote
	dtfile processes. The design, as inherited by us, is pretty
	brain-dead with how dtfile wants to a) interact with Tooltalk
	to accomplish file lookups, and b) assumes you've got an
	automounted environment to touch anything you'd like to use
	(assuming /net for a mount point).