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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

2188.0. "Dickerson Ketch" by PCBUOA::MWEBER (The wind is free. Use it.) Mon Jan 16 1995 13:43

I've run across a 1970 Dickerson Ketch (41' & 3' bowsprint, mahog over oak, center-cockpit, full keel). The
owner lived-abord for 8 years until his family of four outgrew it--now they have a house proper. He's a
licensed captain and surveyer. It seems to be a reasonable deal at $25,000.

I know nothing about Dickerson other than the name and absolutely nothing about this boat. Does Dickerson
have a reputation for designing well-found yachts? Is there anything particular to this boat (excluding
advantages/disadvantages of a ketch rig) that group could offer?

Michael
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2188.1Mizzens PCBUOA::LAZGINTue Jan 17 1995 19:2316
    The Ketch gives you the opportunity to fly the mizzen tri-sail and lots
    of other configurations.  At anchor, a small tri sail can be hoisted
    on the mizzen to keep the bow into the wind.
    
    Also, the mainsail is a bit smaller and easier to manage.
    
    The Mizzen is also a fine place to mount radar.  (Main mast causes
    problems with the genoa)
    
    Finally the mizzen adds lots more standing rigging and weight aloft
    (bad for performance) and more to manage and maintain.
    
    With a wooden boat, you'll have lots to manage anyway!
    
    Frank
                          
2188.2Comments from rec.boatsPCBUOA::MWEBERThe wind is free. Use it.Thu Jan 19 1995 11:5682
For the benefit of the conference, comments from rec.boats:

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Dickerson was a long-time builder of cruising yachts in the Chesapeake Bay.  
They were known as honest, shallow-draft, not particularly exciting yachts.  
There were two designs; a 32-footer, and a 40-footer.  They are quite roomy, 
but tend to pound in a head sea, as they are a relatively flat-bottomed 
design.

This is a good boat for coastal cruising, but not what I'd pick for ocean
voyaging.  Be sure to have it surveyed by a good surveyor; if its spent much 
time in the Chesapeake, it'll have some dry rot.

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The Dickerson yard is a venerable institution in Oxford Maryland with a 
reputation for building high quality cruising boats designed for the 
Chesapeake Bay.  Of course, the value of a 25 year old wooden boat will 
depend more on how it has been maintained and its current condition.    

Rich Schifreen
Earendil
63387
[email protected]

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I worked at Dickerson the summer of 1978 and can tell you first hand that it 
was at that time a first class operation producing quality boats.  They have 
since been sold a few times and now I'm told are producing boats again.  
They are located in Trappe on Mds eastern shore.  Sorry, can't help you with 
the Ketch information, we were making fiberglass boats in 78.

Scott Wolff

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I had a very comfortable sail on Lake Superior on Dickerson '41.  All in all 
a capable boat.  Only problem encountered was we had a main winch blow off in 
moderate wind.  Seems the winch was securred by 4 screws into the wood deck.  
Don't know if this indicates problems elsewhere in construction but the boat 
had survived several seasons on Lake Superior and several trips to the East 
Coast.

Steve

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The Dickerson boats were built in the small town of Trappe, Maryland.  The 
earliest boats were wood, the later fiberglass. In general, the boats have 
enjoyed a good reputation.  Like many small builders, they are not as well 
known nationally, and therefore can usually be bought more reasonably than 
recognized brands.

Your deal sounds good. I would definitely suggest you spend the money to 
survey it before purchasing it.  If the boat has any problems you will know 
it going into the deal.

I have a friend who just bought a Dickerson 32 (wood) very reasonably and 
with a little work will soon have a good cruising boat.

Wooden boats are beautiful, but do require work, as many people in this forum 
can attest.  There are a number of wooden boats on the market reasonably 
priced because people are, by and large, too lazy to own them (or too poor).

Paul Rosenfield\Metalmast Marine

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Dickerson made (and still makes) good boats, but be aware that the value of a 
wood boat can go to zero in a year if not properly maintained.  They require 
far more maintenance than fiberglass boats and this is why the sell for such 
low prices.  Most people just aren't up to doing the work themselves and can't 
afford to have it done professionaly.  I generally think that wood boats today 
are for people who really enjoy woodworking and are already good at it.

At any rate, make sure you are really prepared for what you are getting into 
and then find an old surveyor who knows wood boats to make sure it is even 
worth maintaining.  All too often they aren't, because they haven't been.

Mike