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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:	SAILING
Notice:	Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:	UNIFIX::BERENS

Created:	Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:	Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2299
Total number of notes:	20724

2143.0. "Weight for light genoa?" by MUZICK::THOMPSON (Mike LMO2-1/M13) Wed Jul 13 1994 13:06

	I have been looking at a Bacon & Associates listing on used sails.

	I would like to buy a genoa for light weather use.
	My current genoa is dacron around 5oz which is light winds 
	flaps around a lot. I have and use a whisker pole.

	They offer sails made of:
		3oz Dacron
		3oz Mylar
		2.2 oz ripstop nylon.
		2.1 oz Mylar
		2.2 oz Polyant (Ripstop Dacron)

	Does anyone have experience of using a lighter cloth? 
	Does it really help? Is 30z light enough?
	How is Mylar for sail handling and storage?
	Mike

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2143.1	depends on the use...	MILKWY::WAGNER	Scott	`Wed Jul 13 1994 13:46`	17
	The nylon and maybe polyant are for chutes. If you want this for cruising, maybe consider a big cruising (asym) chute. Can't point quite as high, but you can put enough LP for a really big sail. Mylar won't last as long, but is almost a requirement for racing. Used mylar? Hmmmm better be cheap. I'm not sure how well nylon ages, either, especially when it's often put away wet... Also, I've heard a good report or 2 about Bacon. Now, flapping around is gonna happen when it's light (July and August in Boston) and you may want to play around with apparent wind and sail settings. There's really not a boat around that _likes_ to go dead downwind. Nylon's stretchiness will ease the flapping. Scott.
2143.2	Bacon still exists?	WRKSYS::SCHUMANN	UHF computers	`Wed Jul 13 1994 15:53`	3
	Is Bacon still in business? See note 1721.19... --RS
2143.3	Seem to be back	MCS873::KALINOWSKI		`Wed Jul 13 1994 17:09`	7
	re -1 I have gotten two catalogs (one just last week) from Bacon Associates, so it looks like they are back in business. Too bad, cause I already had bought from Florida Sail traders... john
2143.4	Is 3oz really light?	MUZICK::THOMPSON	Mike LMO2-1/M13	`Thu Jul 14 1994 13:32`	6
	Does 3oz Dacron "feel" light? Is it noticably different to use a genoa of this weight rather than 5oz Dacron? Mike
2143.5	Yep	MILKWY::WAGNER	Scott	`Thu Jul 14 1994 17:08`	3
	Yup, I think so. Also, a "light #1" is cut differently than a "heavy #1", not just different material.
2143.6		GLDOA::ROGERS	hard on the wind again	`Fri Jul 15 1994 18:36`	15
	There are a huge number of variables: bias, warp vs. fill, orientation, laminate, fiber type and mix, resin content and combinations of all of these..................impossible Best advice I can think of is: go to a show, hit all the 'maker booths and look for common data. Or call Dimension and other mills and ask for guidance. AND cut is everything.................... The 'maker must know your climate "typicals" and your rig adjustment ranges. Since mine is custom, I had to make sure that the 'maker knew that my runners could pull out more draft than typical. So he cut me fuller on the light end. What a differnce this made.