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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

2081.0. "another little tip" by TFH::KTISTAKIS (Mike K.) Wed Sep 15 1993 14:53

    Did you ever have problems with your power throttle when you push
    the lever for more power and the lever comes back like a spring
    pushed it back? And then,did you spray with WD the linkage of the cable
    where attaches to the engine and the control lever inside the binnacle?
    And finally because that didn't work did you change the control cable?
    Everything happen to me with the exception of the last part(did not
    change the cable) from the day of the lunching of the boat this year.
    So I was tying the level to the binnacle when the road... I mean the 
    seaway was clear till I had the time and the knowledge to fix it at
    later date.
    Well,maybe it hasn't happen to you like all the other people I asked
    in my marine and they all advised me the WD way but keep it in mind
    who knows?  (Get to the point Mike!)
    When this happen use the WD treatment first and check the linkage
    movement(power off) both connections,engine and binnacle. If everything
    seems O.K. but you still have the problem take one or two,I use two,
    small hose clamps and put them around the control cable.Start tighten
    the clamps while checking the level(don't overtight because the lever
    will stop moving)till you find the right amount of pressure of the
    insulation of the cable to the the wire of the cable.
    By the way last year when the boat was out of the water and I was
    cleaning the engine room I saw two hose clamps tight on a single cable,
    nothing to hold.Didn't make any since to me so I removed them.
    
     
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2081.1Possible cures to cable springCFSCTC::CLAFLINWed Sep 15 1993 18:0842
Hi Mike

I'm back from Down Under, Kiwi Land and Fiji.

The problem with your throttle does appear to be friction related, as you have
already surmised.  To a certain extent I think it is unavoidable and a function
of control cable length.

There is a certain amount of friction between the cable and its housing.  Over 
a length this will cause the control cable to "bunch up" in an "S" curve inside
the housing.  The spring effect is just that.  You remove the push of the 
throttle lever and the "spring" control line relaxes by pushing the throttle 
cable back.

I think you description of clamping down with hose clamps etc. will work.  The
bad part is that you are putting undesired forces into your throttle line.
Murphy loves me and would rear his head by snappy the throttle at the most
awkward time.

Here is a list of steps in more or less increasing order of difficulty to lower
the friction in the throttle control line.

Lubricate visible areas, binacle and engine.

Try to get something like TriFlo to go down the inside of the cable housing.

Check the throttle linkage for smooth operation.  This may include cleaning a 
venturi to unstick a butterfly, stronger return spring on throttle, fixing
a bent throttle linkage.

Less obvious but a good source of friction is the route of the throttle control
line.  Make the bends as few as possible and as large as possible.  Obviously
you want the control line as short as possible.

Look carefully at the angle that the throttle cable mates with the throttle
linkage.  You want this to be as tangent as possible.  At 90 degrees the control
line would never cause the linkage to move.

Disconnect the cable from the engine and connect it to a semaphore.  Next time
I go out with you designate me as cheif engineer.   Send the command for
flank speed by semaphore or courier pigeon.  The engineer changes the throotle 
directly.
2081.2How was Fiji?TFH::KTISTAKISMike K.Thu Sep 16 1993 09:027
    Doug, Nice to have you back.Hope you had a good time Down under.How was the
    sailing and the scenery over there ?
    I found about my throttle cable cure last week,but if you knew it along
    how come you didn't tell me when you were on the boat and saw me so
    many times tying the throttle lever to the binnacle ?
    Yes I will change the cable.This year I am bringing the boat home for
    major overhaul.
2081.3Fiji in the rainCFSCTC::CLAFLINThu Sep 16 1993 14:2643
I spent a week visting friends in Fiji.

Some qhick notes of sailing interest.

The cable remedy came as I tried fixing a John's throttle in Suva harbor.  After
staring at it a while, I found a service loop in the cable that was only about
4" in diameter.  I freed that and things improved greatly.  I also spent a couple
of days working on making a new bed for his batteries and fiddling with a new 
alternator.

Suva is the main city in Fiji (actually until you get to Aukland).  There was
an interesting mix of good supply and then nothing at all. For the most part
goods cost between 1.5x - 10x US prices for the same thing.  As a general rule
high tech items cost more than low tech.  Likewise things imported from the 
1st world cost more than things importedfrom the 3rd world.

Somethings are simply not available at all, battery jumper cables and terminal
cleaning brushes are two that come to mind.  Electronic repair is marginal and
only one shop worth considering at that (AB WEST?)

John belongs to the Royal Suva Yacht Club.  It is located on the edge of Suva and
is a nice unpretentious place.

The outer islands do not have customs facilities. This is to discourage drug trade.
Frankly, I did not see much evidence of that type of thing.  My impression was 
that in Suva and the surrounding area, petty crime is a problem.  Fijian socail
structure in the countriside makes the rural area OK.

The coral reefs are amazing.  I wish the eather had been more conducive to 
snorkling.  In retrospect, I would have liked to take a tour bus into the 
mountainous interior.

While the Fijian are a wonderful gentle and friendly people, they have an 
incredibly violent past.  The raised torture to an art form that makes the 
Marquese de Sade look like he was using finger paints.  Native art is primarily
in the form of woodcarving, tapa cloth, and some pottery.  This is winter in 
Fiji.  What but we could all suffer that way.

I'll bore any and all with pictures when they come back, probably when I set up
a viewing of the Southern Cross video. (See I really haven't forgotten).

Doug
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