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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

2050.0. "In Search of Tartan 30s" by CSOA1::GELO () Thu Jun 24 1993 13:10

    I am interested in purchasing the cleanest, best maintained, and least
    abused Tartan 30 I can find. Tartan stopped building them somewhere
    around 1975. Does anyone know how to go about finding boats like this
    for sale?
    
    Carl
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2050.1where are you looking?MARX::CARTERThu Jun 24 1993 13:2011
    Carl,
    
    What area are you from?
    
    Last year one of the Tartan 30s at Hawthorne Cove Marina in Salem, Ma.
    was for sale.  I don't know if it still is, or not, but that should be
    easy enough to find out.  The boat appears pretty clean from what I've
    seen, and it seems to be "lightly used."  i.e., it seldom leaves its 
    mooring or even has anybody aboard.
    
    djc 
2050.2one Tartan 30'MR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Thu Jun 24 1993 14:3111
    I have a friend who has a Tartan 30 for sale or at least he did last
    sailing season.  He purchased a 45' Hunter last season.  His name is
    George McKubrie and his work phone is 603-752-4600 x 2312 or home at
    603-466-2814.
    
    If you call him give him our (Dot and myself) best!
    
    	Regards,
    
    	Ron
    
2050.3have you tried calling brokers?MASTR::BERENSAlan BerensMon Jun 28 1993 13:396
re .0:

Seems to me that the best approach is to call brokers, tell them what 
you're looking for and how much you're willing to spend. They'll no 
doubt be delighted to send you lots of listings. 

2050.4Thanks for the response!CSOA1::GELOMon Jun 28 1993 14:5213
    Thanks for the help. I picked up a Soundings, and was amazed at the
    number of Tartan 30's for sale. Now the particulars; I sail out of
    Cleveland, on Lake Erie. I would really like to find a boat that has
    lived its life in fresh water. Also, Im looking for a Tartan with
    a tiller and aft traveler. 
    
    I picked up a publication called Great Lakes Scanner, and found one
    in upper Michigan that sounds good. The owner is sending data and
    pictures. We are making plans to see the boat next month. If all goes
    well, I'll need it surveyed. Will Boat U.S. provide surveying
    assistance?
    
    Carl
2050.5Boat US has lists of surveyorsMAST::SCHUMANNWed Jun 30 1993 12:124
I believe Boat U.S. will provide a list of surveyors in your area. I don't
know whether they make any effort to evaluate the surveyors, though.

--RS
2050.6Tartan 30 AvailableMEMIT::WARREN_PFri Jul 02 1993 15:195
    
    
    Call Stephen Howard, dtn 223-0785 in ML01.
    
    I believe he is selling a Tartan 30.
2050.7Tartan 30 props?MROA::BERICSONMRO1-1/KL31 DTN 297-3200Thu Jan 13 1994 09:3912
    Rather than strt a new note...
    
    My friend has a Tartan 30 with a stock two blade fixed prop that he
    would like to upgrade to either a 3 blade or articulated prop.  Some of
    the considerations are.. thrust, reverse performance, and lots of
    lobstah traps where we cruise down Maine.
    
    What experience have the T30 owneers had?  Any suggestions?  I did look
    at all the notes dir/title=prop but would like some specific Tartan
    info.
    
    Thanks
2050.8Ask Joe...WONDER::BRODEURThu Jan 13 1994 17:2218
    
    Hmmm, can't help with experience here. I DO own a T30 but run with the
    standard 2 bladed prop. With my Atomic 4 I have no problems with
    forward umph, backing down however is not the best. Also, with the
    design of the T30 underbody (keel/ prop placement/ skeg rudder) I've
    found it hard to foul although I'm "usually" rather careful about what
    I run over when possible....
    
    Not sure if you know about Joe Palmer and "The Customer Service Co."
    Joe runs a shop that deals with older Tartan makes. He's been VERY
    helpful for me in the past and may be able to help. Can reach him at
    1-800-486-7245. You can also join the "Blackwatch Clan" which is a
    Tartan owners group ($30/year) through Joe. News letters, parts
    catalog, etc. If you haven't yet, give him a try. Let me know what you
    come up with. I might be interested in any info also.
    
    Paul
    
2050.9Why change?MARX::CARTERThu Jan 13 1994 17:3418
    re .7
    
    Is your friend looking for a change just for the sake of change?  A
    three blade prop and an articulated prop would seem to be nearly polar
    opposites in terms of props on a sailboat.  Wouldn't they?
    
    Paul says he's careful about what he runs over.  maybe he is when he's
    using HIS vessel.   If anybody in this notes conference will know about
    how well his sail boat performs under power, trust me.  It is Paul.
    
    The skeg arrangement that Paul mentions is likely to limit your
    friend's choice of articulating props to a feathering prop.  Paul's boat 
    doesn't appear to have room between the prop and the rudder skeg for a 
    folding prop to fit.  I know my Gori folding prop would be an
    interference fit on his boat. 
    
    djc
       
2050.10Easier than those big white thingiesWONDER::BRODEURMon Jan 17 1994 12:207
    
    	Thanks Dave..... :*)
    
    P.B. (Paul Brodeur or Power Boater, either fits I guess)
    
    
    	
2050.113 blades work fineCSOA1::GELOWed Nov 16 1994 14:2218
    Re:.7
    
    Did your friend ever get a 3 blade prop? Mine has one, and I'm looking
    to replace it with a Maxiprop feathering. With a Yanmar 2GM20 diesel,
    we easily achieve 6+ knots in forward. In reverse, you feel like you
    have brakes. 
    
    I agree with a previous note as far as prop fouling on the T-30 is
    concerned. The prop is located at the top of the keel's trailing edge.
    It is virtually impossible to foul it moving forward. I ran into a
    commercial fishing net crossing Lake Erie at night while motor sailing.
    The boat slowed by 2.5 knots, then I heard a "twang" and I was back up
    to speed. 
    
    The prop on my Tartan is size 13X13, and I measure 5/8" clearance
    between the tip of the prop and my hull.