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1985.1 | | DEMOAX::GINGER | Ron Ginger | Tue Jan 05 1993 08:37 | 4 |
| There are many good books now available on Wooden Boatbuilding. The
best come from either International Marine Publishing in Camden Maine,
or from WoodBoat Publishing in Maine. I will make a short list and post
it here later.
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1985.2 | Two to start with | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue Jan 05 1993 09:35 | 14 |
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A start at a list
HOW TO BUILD A WOODEN BOAT Davic C. "Bub" McIntosh
Wooden Boat Publications ISBN 0-937822-10-8
THE GOUGEON BROTHERS ON BOAT CONSTRUCTION
ISBN 79-87812-166-8
There are many more these two were sitting on the top of the boating
pile of books.
Forrest
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1985.3 | Sent more data offline | STAR::KENNEY | | Mon Jan 18 1993 13:47 | 7 |
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I took a list a friend made up and mailed it to the submitter of
the base note. If folks would like it I can add it here I cannot
comment on the choices I have not read any of the books on the list. A
few have me curious enough to consider adding them to my buy list.
Forrest
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1985.4 | Why not post it ? | OTOOA::MOWBRAY | This isn't a job its an Adventure | Wed Jan 20 1993 14:54 | 10 |
| I've had to deliberately prevent myself from buying Wooden Boat
magazine .... they must use the same photographers as the Australian
Women's weekly cook books. Every time I read one I get an urge to
build a wooden boat. If you can control the urge, it is a wealth of
knowledge and sources for plans, material etc. the only thing they dont
have is a psychiatrists reference !
Come to think of it one time I read an article that showed that wooden
boats were cheaper to own than fiberglass ..... those are the kind of
dollars that I dont need to save though!
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1985.5 | You asked for it..... | STAR::KENNEY | | Wed Jan 20 1993 15:00 | 81 |
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Some more possible books to add to the potential home builders list.
The list came from a friend who has worked his way through several of them. He
made a list up a few years back and has added and deleted some books over time.
He tries to get through one a quarter and is less than half way through. all
the books listed are available from:
Boatbuilder Books
PO Box 540638
Merritt Island, FL 32954
(407) 459 1558
I have no connection in any way with Boatbuilder Books in fact I have
never dealt with them. The prices listed with the books is the price my friend
was quoted by Boatbuilder books. Enjoy and hope this helps.
THE NATURE OF BOATS, by Dave Gerr
288 pages 150 illustrations, 7"x10" hard cover $29.95
Cover how to size wire rigging, how to determine correct thickness of
Fiberglas hull, etc.
ULTRALIGHT BOATBUILDING, by Thomas Hill
144 pages, 140 illustrations, 8�"x11" soft cover $17.95
Presents a technique for using epoxy and lapstrake plywood construction to build
light durable boats.
BUEHLERS'S BACKYARD BOAT BUILDING, by George Buehler
320 pages, 150 illustrations, 7"x10" soft cover $24.95
A do it yourself boat builder shop manual.
GO BUILD YOUR OWN BOAT, by Harold H. "Dynamite" Payson
128 pages, 180 illustrations, 8�"x11" soft cover $19.95
Comprehensive guide to boat design to construction.
INSTANT BOATS, Harold H "Dynamite" Payson
136 pages, 48 illustrations, 7"x10" soft cover $14.95
Includes plans and building details for a line of small boats that can be
quickly built using plywood.
BOATBUILDING MANUAL, Third Edition, by Robert M Steward
256 pages, 145 illustrations, 7"x10" hard cover $29.95
A good reference on traditional boat construction in all materials.
C-FLEX CONSTRUCTION MANUAL, by Barry Kennedy
91 pages, 113 illustrations, 8�"x11" soft cover $10.95
Shop guide to using C-FLEX published by the manufacturer.
FINE BOAT FINISHES, By Paul and Marya Buttler
160 pages, 20 color photos, 118 drawings 7"x10" soft cover $14.95
Once you build you need to know how to paint it to show off your fine
construction.
LOFTING, by Allan Vaitses
150 pages, 123 drawings, 10"x7" spiralbound $21.95
You really need to be able to loft it in order to build it.
BOATBUILDING WITH PLYWOOD, by Glen-L Witt
302 pages, 230 photos, 8�"x11" hard cover $25.95
Covers all aspects of using plywood in boat construction.
MORE BUILDING CLASSIC SMALL CRAFT, John Gardner
241 pages, 190 illustrations 8�"x11" soft cover $19.50
Contains complete plans and construction details for 23 traditional small
craft.
THE NEW COLD-MOLDED BOATBUILDING, by Reuel B. Parker
320 pages, 73/8"x9�" soft cover $19.50
Covers all aspects of choosing a design, selecting material etc.
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1985.6 | | JUPITR::KEENAN | | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:59 | 13 |
| Re: .4
I restored and maintained a 14.5' wooden boat for many years. The
amount of work is equivalent to maintaining my house which is
1,450 square feet. So my rule of thumb is - one foot of wooden
boat length equals 100 sqft of house.
I believe a REAL wooden boat is far more work than a fiberglass boat.
"Real" means planks, seams, caulking cotton, paint inside and out, etc.
Since most wooden boats constructed today are built with epoxy and
most fiberglass boats are balsa core, the difference is getting slim.
Paul
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1985.7 | Easy | SALEM::GILMAN | | Thu Jan 21 1993 14:41 | 26 |
| I have a 47 year old WOODEN boat, (yup the real kind) complete with
cotton, caulking, and the whole bit. It is 17' feet long. The first
winter after I bought it the work on it consumed the Winter.
The next Winter took less time, and THIS Winter I havn't touched it.
In the Spring it will get a quick clean up and into the water.
I had an Al boat before and although the Al was minimum maintenance
it had NO class IMO. The wooden boat woos you so the 'work' doesn't
seem like work. Just like a woman, right?
But what is best, there is virtually NOTHING I can't do myself to
repair the wooden boat. Fiberglass and Al require more exotic
equipment to repair. An aluminum boat is, IMO beyond the scope of
the do it yourselfer to repair in a home shop if there is significant
work to be done (hole in hull, big dents etc.) because of the lack
of proper equipment.
I diagree with the ratio of work between a wood house and boat. I
assume that was a tongue in cheek comparison. Actually, its more
like .1 to 1 rather than 100 to 1, no, just kidding.
There IS good literature out there on how to maintain/repair wooden
boats... see the earlier notes in this string.
Jeff
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1985.8 | worth it - if you have time | RUNTUF::LYMAN | | Fri Jan 22 1993 10:13 | 13 |
| >> The wooden boat woos you so the 'work' doesn't
>> seem like work. Just like a woman, right?
or, for that matter, a man. ;-)
I had an old 16-foot wooden Townie, back when I was young and had lots
of time and energy. Every winter we rebuilt something, sometimes a
lot of things - but we always made her prettier, trading rotted-out
painted pine for mahogany brightwork. It didn't seem like work. I still
miss that boat. We took it all over the Sheepscot River and over to
Penobscot Bay. It taught me to sail - sometimes the hard way!
Lois
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1985.9 | | DEMOAX::GINGER | Ron Ginger | Fri Jan 22 1993 10:20 | 20 |
| WOW! one of my favorie rat holes!! Wood boats vs 'frozen snot'.
One must carefully separate RESTORATION of an old wooden boat from
MAINTENANCE of one in good condition. Restoration obviously can be
major work, but normal maintenance is not such a problem. The WOODBOAT
article refered to a couple notes back, was careful to talk about
maintenance, and when you consider the total picture- maintaing things
like engines, rig, electrical etc, the hull material is not a factor.
A wood boat does not require to re-caulked or even re-painted every
year.
I also agree with the ease of repair of wood. In addition, a fiberglass
boat when repaired for serious damage is only a patch glued into the
hole, no matter how well its glued ( and there are many issues related
to successful bonding to old material). A wood boat, with a new plank
or a new frame is exactly as strong as originally built.
As the sign says "IF GOD MEANT THERE TO BE FIBERGLASS BOATS HE WOULD
HAVE PLANTED FIBERGLASS TREES"
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1985.10 | Wood | SALEM::GILMAN | | Fri Jan 22 1993 11:56 | 32 |
| .........just like a woman. Lois, I thought I probably wouldn't get away
with that crack. Smile. And I didn't.
But, as you know thats a sort of traditional statement to associate
with wooden boats because they have such personalities. I guess that
there are no two identical wood boats because each is basically hand
made even if from the same plans as a sister boat. Maybe that adds
to the class.
I agree with the comment about the difference between restoration vs.
maintenance. I restored my boat the first winter, now am maintaining
it. One MUST pay attention to certain details with a wood boat if you
want it to last, such as:
Not letting fresh water collect and stand in the bilges for extended
periods.
Not letting standing bilge water freeze.
Not properly covering and ventilating the boat during Winter lay up.
There certainly ARE details which a wooden boat demands you pay
attention to for it to last, which in some areas is unlike synthetic
boats which you can let go and get away with alot.
And, yes, I agree if God had wanted fiberglass and Al boats he would
have created fiberglas and aluminum trees. (That comment got a good
laugh out of me).
Keep sawing.
Jeff
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