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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1967.0. "Fractional Vs. Masthead?" by OTOOA::MOWBRAY (This isn't a job its an Adventure) Thu Nov 19 1992 08:19

    I am sure that I should know this (or be able to figure it out) but,
    
    Why would someone design a boat with a fractional rig ?
    
    On the surface, the smaller jib, reduced slot etc. would appear to make
    the sail plan less efficient and I would guess that the main becomes a
    lot more important in the scheme of things.
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1967.1BOXORN::HAYSWave that Flag, Wave it wide and high!Thu Nov 19 1992 09:2322
RE: .0 by OTOOA::MOWBRAY "This isn't a job its an Adventure"

> Why would someone design a boat with a fractional rig ?

The main is a less efficient sail than the jib close hauled,  but a fractional 
rig gives more control over mainsail shape than a masthead rig.  If you don't
want to spend a lot of time getting sail shape just right,  a masthead rig is
probably a better choice.  If you do,  I think a fractional rig is a slightly 
faster rig.

A fractional rig has more control over mainsail shape as the fore and back 
stays bend the mast.  This bending action on the mast pulls a controllable
amount of curvature (by adjusting backstay tension) out of the center of the 
mainsail,  allowing a fuller cut mainsail for more power,  and still allowing 
the mainsail to be adjusted flatter for better pointing.

Also,  off the wind,  a slightly larger mainsail is an advantage.

As you guessed,  the main is more important in a fractional rig.


Phil
1967.2No gorillas neededRDGENG::BEVANThu Nov 19 1992 09:394
> Why would someone design a boat with a fractional rig ?

Apart from the other things mentioned it keeps the foresail to a more 
manageable size (similar arguement to cutter over sloop rig)
1967.3FractionalSALEM::GILMANThu Nov 19 1992 11:454
    Would someone give me a definition of a fractional rig?  I don't
    understand the term.  
    
    Tx.  Jeff
1967.4I'll give fractional a shotMARX::CARTERThu Nov 19 1992 12:1411
    Jeff,
    
    On a masthead rig, the headstay, on which the jib is hoisted, goes to
    the top of the mast.
    
    On a fractional rig, the headstay goes a fraction of the way up the
    mast.  It's not uncommon to hear some body describe a boat as (for
    instance) a 7/8 fractional rig.  That, I assume, means the headstay is
    attached to the mast 7/8 of the way up from the bottom.
    
    djc
1967.5FractSALEM::GILMANThu Nov 19 1992 14:334
    Ok, thanks I understand.  It does make sense that a 7/8ths means that
    the headstay attaches 7/8ths of the way up the mast. 
    
    Jeff
1967.6CFSCTC::SBOATS::GERMAINHe's the Iceman - a Hunter!Fri Nov 20 1992 08:137
    Got a frac rig on my Herreshoff S-boat. We go pretty fast, but the
    main feature (to me - strictly personal) is that the jib lies within
    the foretriangle and I can tack without touching the single jib sheet.
    
     Makes life simple for singlehanding.
    
    Gregg
1967.7ESSB::PREISLERJOHN PREISLERMon Nov 30 1992 07:4617
Folks,

From someone who races fractional rigs against both fractional and masthead rigs
in the (wild) west of Ireland, one of the main benefits of the frac over the
full rig is that, when the wind gets up, 
-	it is easier to control the boat by spilling wind from the main (as it 
	is the most powerful sail) than the headsail,
-	the main gets reefed first in a frac rig while generally the headsail
	gets changed on a masthead rig. This makes it quicker and far less 
	 dangerous for reefing. It also keeps the weight of crew off the bow.
This allied to what was said earlier makes for a better racing combination.

You do loose out on the size of the spinnaker though - especially in light airs.

Hope this helps 

J.P.
1967.8yOTOOA::MOWBRAYThis isn't a job its an AdventureMon Nov 30 1992 14:028
    re .7  The reason I asked the question inthe first place is that a
    friend of mine just bought a Sigma 33 (fractional).  Do you know the
    boat (race against them ?) I would love to hear more about it as I have
    begged a berth on the trip from Halifax (Nova Scotia Can.) to Holyrood
    (newfoundland Can.).  Even though I will be the Navigator, we won't be
    able to make it to the French Islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon though
    which is a pity as the wine, cheese etc. is a treat there .... unless
    the Navigator makes a mistake !
1967.9SAC::CSOONE::BARKER@UCG,ex UBO,NEW,REO,RES,SBP,UCG & RYOTue Dec 01 1992 03:5911
    The Sigma 33 is the most popular One-design yacht in the UK. Designed
    by David Thomas in the early 80's, it is a comfortable and well thought
    out cruiser-racer. Don't expect to set any records though. There are 
    literallly hundreds of these boats in the Solent area, and big racing
    events like Cowes Week, Round the Island and the National Championship
    regularly attract over 70 entries.
    
    What else do you want to know ?
    
    Chris
    
1967.10tell me anythingOTOOA::MOWBRAYThis isn't a job its an AdventureTue Dec 01 1992 07:296
    I suppose it is some idle conjecture on my part.  On the other hand it
    is nice to think about now that the snow is on the ground.
    
    What are her sailing characteristics ?
    
    Ratings PHRF (which we use here) etc. ?
1967.11144 sec/mileMILKWY::WAGNERScottTue Dec 01 1992 11:288
    
    	She rates 144 in New England, tho the only one I've seen is on my
    tillerpilot box (Navico). From the photo, she looks a LOT like my
    Beneteau 325, and rates very close as well.
    
    	I hope the cabin heater works, if you're leaving this week!!
    
    	Scott (high, dry & jealous)
1967.12High and Dry too!OTOOA::MOWBRAYThis isn't a job its an AdventureTue Dec 01 1992 15:498
    Hmmm .... guess I missed the June next year part of my trip !
    
    All of the boats up here are out of the water until next may.
    
    But don't despair, with the weather round here in June we'll need the
    heater and PLENTY of long underwear.  The coldest I've ever been in my
    life was on that trip about 5 years ago.  Got cold on the St. Pierre
    Bank and Stayed cold for 4 days after! (Espar!)