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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
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1859.0. "Warwick - Beverly" by CARTUN::GYOUNG () Thu Apr 30 1992 18:01

    A friend has asked me to crew for him when he moves his Pearson 36
    from Warwick, RI to Beverly, MA.
    
    We're planning for three days .... Day 1  Warwick to Woods Hole,
    Day 2  Woods Hole to Plymouth, Day 3  Plymouth to Beverly.  The
    tides are not favorable for us through the Canal on Day 2, so
    we will not make as much distance as we originally planned.  We're
    not in a rush, so we're planning to sail during the daylight only.
    
    Some questions:
    
    1.  What's in Woods Hole for marinas, restaurants, bars, etc. ?
    
    2.  same for Plymouth
    
    
    Anyone have any comments/advice ..... it would be appreciated.
    
    We're planning on the end of May for the trip.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    greg
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1859.2I'd sure like to reply to Warwick-Beverly (1859.0) but it's locked.... SAILIT::LIPKAFri May 01 1992 09:2517
Moderator -- please feel free to move this around...

Over the course of two cruises, I've stopped in at Plymouth Marine in Plymouth
harbor. It's a full service marina, with showers, marine store, a restaurant,
and as I recall, washing machines. And, it's only a couple of blocks walk
to Plymouth center. The docks are well taken care of, and they have the
usual electrical hookups.

If I remember, they charged me something like $35 for the night for a 29
footer without the electrical hookup.

They're at the south end of the harbor, and the only thing south of them that
I remember is a yacht club. As you come into the harbor, the channel splits
several ways. Go hard left and follow the channel along the sand spit (keep
it to port). I wouldn't recommend doing this without a chart -- the first time
I came into the harbor I was pretty confused just looking at the mess of bouys
where the channel splits.
1859.3Plymouth Yacht ClubGUCCI::RPARSHLEYFri May 01 1992 12:196
    I would suggest the Plymouth Yacht Club.  The club is not associated
    with the marina but is next to it.  The club has excellent moorings and
    for a small fee, $15, they will assign a mooring and provide water taxi
    service during your stay.  The club has good facilities which you can
    also use as part of their service charge.  When entering the habor,
    just give them a call on 68.
1859.4P.M. at auctionHYDRA::ALLAFri May 01 1992 12:222
    Plymouth Marine, was up for foreclosure auction in April, it is in
    operation this year ?
1859.5Piece O' CakeMILKWY::WAGNERScottFri May 01 1992 16:0119
    
    	$35! That must have been a while back. Call and check prices; I
    think they're up to about $2/foot/night. It's a nice place, though, you
    can see the Mayflower and you are right in town. This place is a full
    boat yard too, with a chandlery, fueldock- pretty handy.
    	Plenty of restaurants within walking distance, tho the pricing is
    high in season.
    
    	Woods Hole: one fun thing to do is go into Eel Pond. They raise a
    tiny footbridge for you; just wide enough for the mast. Inside are a
    couple of places with slips, and a few moorings. We stayed at "Pinky's"
    for fairly short money. Once tied up, I spoke to a couple WHOI students
    for advice on cheap eats, and pigged out on fish&chips, then to a bar
    with several good selections on tap. Several touristy places as well,
    right near the ferry docks.
    
    	Enjoy your cruise!
    
    	Scott
1859.1in complianceCARTUN::GYOUNGSun May 03 1992 20:006
    Thanks to the folks who responded to this prior to me adding the
    "keyword".  I've done the required "keywording", so all should be
    fine now.   Ahhh ... added bureaucracy; I suppose it's needed but
    it sure is a pain.
    
    Greg
1859.6Why Woods Hole?GIAMEM::SEUFFERTMon May 04 1992 14:058
    Why woods hole? Why Plymouth? Coming from Buzzards bay side you have to
    wait the tide to go through the Hole. Current runs real fast. Why not
    pull into Hadley harbor and drop the hook. One of the best places
    around. Or why not Quisset a mile or so away. Again, a real nice place
    and within an easy cab ride to Falmouth.
    As to Plymouth. A long way to get in usually against a fair tide
    running. Not a great place. A little further up the coast get you into 
    Scituate. A lot better place. Call Scituate Yacht Club for a mooring.
1859.7How about Onset?ACTHUB::RYANTue May 05 1992 14:503
    I agree with .6 about avoiding the tides at Woods Hole.  Try Onset
    Marine in Onset just as you get into the canal -- just make sure you
    time it right.
1859.8EMDS::MCBRIDEFlick of my BIC Scarecrow?Wed May 06 1992 17:429
    Isn't Onset at the North end of the canal?  I would also recommend not
    going through Woods Hole unless you are sure you be able to time your
    tides correctly.  You could opt for Cutty Hunk which has relatively
    little for services/activities but it is closer than Woods Hole and
    does not have the current to deal with.  Moorings in the outer harbor do
    not go in until July so the inner harbor is probably a better bet.  An
    anchor will work outside okay too.  Anyways, have a great trip!
    
    Brian
1859.9CUPTAY::BAILEYA pirate looks at 40.Thu May 07 1992 09:376
    Onset is on the Buzzard's Bay (west?) side of the canal.  We've stayed
    there a couple of times when bringing WAGS back from Newport ... it's a
    nice, quiet harbor and convenient to that side of the canal.
    
    ... Bob
    
1859.10fighting CC Canal current isn't worth itDKAS::SPENCERMon May 11 1992 14:4530
Another vote for Hadley Harbor vs Woods Hole (if you can do without town
and a marina.).  If it was any later in the season, I'd suggest skipping
HH since it gets so crowded so early, but end of May might be OK. 
However, it will mean crossing the mouth of Buzzards Bay, which could add
considerably to your total time, depending on winds and currents, and 
you'll still have the length of the bay to transit.

Further up on the eastern side of BB there's a cove called Hospital Cove, 
I believe (no chart to check on here at the office.)  Very protected, 
easy entrance, quite nice, and a favored spot to escape the BB chop.  It's
a very short hop from there to the canal entrance. 

>>>  The tides are not favorable for us through the Canal on Day 2, so
>>>  we will not make as much distance as we originally planned.  We're
>>>  not in a rush, so we're planning to sail during the daylight only.
    
You may already know that technically you're required to power through the
canal, not sail.  You may still find that even at top speed under power at
the height of the ebb (or is it flood?) you'll take a couple hours or more
longer to transit the canal than if you go with the current, or even
around slack water.  Anyway, unless you want a long slow look at the canal
banks and to listen to the engine much longer, consider positioning
yourself up BB the first night, and time your departure on Day 2 to get as
much of a favorable current as possible.  You're near the summer solstice,
so there's a lot of daylight to play with!  4am isn't too early to make it
happen, and if you have to wait till 10am, that's not bad either.  And if 
it's an earlier hour, you might be very glad on the other end if it's a 
heavy slog into a blustery NE or NW breeze in Cape Cod Bay. 

J.
1859.11Retrospective?UNIFIX::BERENSThe ModeratorMon Jul 06 1992 15:2518
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	So, assuming the trip has taken place, how did it go and how DID you
	go?  Canal, P-town, Plymouth, Scituate?  That'll be one of
	our first trips when we get our big boat (bigger than 19'), and
	what you found would be very interesting to some of us.

	Also-in-Greenwich-Bay,
	Ken
1859.12time on Pearson 26'UNIFIX::BERENSThe ModeratorMon Jul 06 1992 15:2510
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    The summary (along with some useful(less) tidbits):
    
    
    Day 1:  Left Warwick @ 7:00 ..... the Bay was flat and we powered
    around Newport.  Light winds ( less than 6 knots) forced us to still
    power.  We encountered several strings of fishing nets out from the
    mansions which caused us to work up/down them until we found an
    opening.  Arrived in Marion @4:30 and tied up at Burr Bros. for the
    night.  Note:  Marion's very shallow down deep in the harbor, we were
    asked to move the boat the next morning by the marina and ended up
    backing over a sandbar and breaking the centerboard cable, so we ended
    up drawing 8 ft. for the remainder of the trip vs. 4.
    Did find a great bar (The Wave) which served draught and had some
    local flavor.
    
    Day 2:  Good wind in Buzzard's Bay (15-17).  We sailed around the Bay
    for a while then ventured into the Canal @11:30.  The Tide turned in
    our favor @ 12:00.  We motorsailed through in 2 1/2 hours and pulled
    into Plymouth @ 4:30.  Plymouth Marina was great.  Clean, nice folks
    and close to town.
    
    Day 3:  left Plymouth @ 9:00, lost engine in the channel adjacent to
    the lighthouse across from the shallows.  Dropped anchor before we
    drifted into somewhere we didn't want to be and got towed back to town.
    After $300 in towing/repair work we left (again) around noon.  Once
    outside the harbor and about 5 miles North we spotted the Salem power
    plant and just made right for it.  Wind picked up and we broad reached
    into Marblehead/Salem/Beverly harbor under full sail at @ 8 knots. 
    Tied her up, washed her down, and settled back for a libation @ 6:00.
    
    All-in-all a great trip.  
    
    
    Thanks to all who answered the original note.  based on the replies, we
    did make some changes, all of which worked out well.
    
    
    Greg