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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1849.0. "Super cat 17 purchase?" by NEMAIL::BRIGGS () Tue Apr 07 1992 15:20

    I am in the middle of making a decision about buying a catamaran for
    the first time. The boat is made by Boston Whaler and is a Super Cat 17
    with 10+ years. The Main sail is in good condition with 2 jibs, one of 
    which is new and unused. The hulls appear to be in good condition along
    with all the cables. The trailer is galvinized with rust on the bolts,
    but the axials appear ok. The seller is asking $400 for the entire
    setup. I have other boats so I am familiar with checking out the hulls
    and trailer, but are their other items I should be cautious of? Is the
    price right?
    
    Thanks
    Steve Briggs
    Dtn 221-5681
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1849.1UNIFIX::BERENSAlan BerensWed Apr 08 1992 13:182
I'll buy it for $400 if you don't!

1849.2A good dealAKO539::KALINOWSKIWed Apr 08 1992 13:3516
    
    The boat new goes around 10-12K. It is one of the most expensive beach
    cats made. They are known to be very sea worthy. The down side is at
    their price, there are not a lot of them around.
    
    At 400 bucks (heck I paid that much for my spinnaker pole, or even one
    of my dagger boards), you cann't go wrong. Get a Murray's Marine
    catalog (phone number is in one of the multihull notes), as they can
    make any rigging that may be missing, along with a good selection of
    generic go-fast parts. You can expect to get 3-4K for the boat from
    what I have seen in the Want Ads if it is in decent shape.
    
    Since you have sails, you have templates if you wanted to buy a new
    set. You should jump on this if you have the time to have fun sailing.
    
    john
1849.3what to look forAKO539::KALINOWSKIWed Apr 08 1992 13:457
    
       Regarding what to look for, check the multihull notes on how to
    buy various Hobies here. You need to look for exactly the same
    things (previous hull damage, bent mast, solid pylons etc).
    A beach cat is a beach cat.
    
    john
1849.4they are fastTARKIN::MCALLENWed Apr 08 1992 15:0422
    I've replied offline regarding this. I would
    agree that $400 is an extremely attractive price.
    I purchased a used Supercat-20 last year and
    am very happy with it. Many of the Supercat
    designs have epoxy-foam-epoxy hulls. This
    implies differences in surveying and repair,
    I think.
    
    Although Supercats are beachcats, I've been told
    their fine bow entry shape and fairly horizontal
    (unflared) bow bottom make them somewhat more
    prone to bow damage than other cats, upon hard
    beaching. By "hard" I mean either at high speed,
    or onto very coarse beach material. Just not quite
    as abrasion or puncture resistant as some of the
    blunter-bowed catamarans. I wedge a cushion under each
    bow point whenever leaving mine beached overnight, if
    there is much liklihood of wave or wind induced motion.
    Normally I beach only on sand or fine gravel.
    I believe newer Supercats designs have thicker (heavier)
    epoxy layups in the susceptible lower bow sections.
    
1849.5I purchased the Super Cat 17NEMAIL::BRIGGSFri Apr 10 1992 10:3213
    John, I ended up purchasing the Super Cat 17 for $375. From the replies
    I received I feel like a landed a great deal. I checked for the
    potential problems you outlined and also the looked into the multihull
    notes and received more info. The boat appears to be in good condition,
    I could not find any major problems with the boat. The seller also had
    a Murry's parts and price book that he gave me. I'm located on an
    average size lake in NH and I hope it's enough for the boat. If not I
    will probably think about selling it at a good profit.
    
    Thanks for the info....
    Steve
    
    	
1849.6Good Luck!!AKO539::KALINOWSKIFri Apr 10 1992 10:4214
    Steve
    
       Congratulations!!
    
      You will love it. We will be having a free catamaran clinic in a 
    couple of weeks in Freetown Ma. All makes of catamarans are welcome.
    This will be a great time to pick up some tips, meet some potental
    crew, and have a great day Sailing.
    
      Check those notes for places to put her in. And don't forget to get
    your Fed sticker if you  are going to venture into the ocean (16 ft
    and up ;>(   ).
    
       john
1849.7steal of the centuryACTHUB::RYANTue Apr 14 1992 17:164
    $375 is a steal! You'll soon find that your supercat is too fast for
    most NH lakes and you'll want to venture to Sunapee, Newfound,
    Winnespesaukee, etc.  A catamaran in a small lake is like a thorough
    bred race horse in your back yard...
1849.8Good Job...Mine cost $2650 in '87LUNER::MALCOLMFri Apr 17 1992 14:2820
    RE: .0
    
    Sounds like a great deal. I have an '82 SuperCat 17 (Sail # 293).
    
    If you are ever in Wolfeboro, I'd love to see the boat to see what you
    you got for your money. If you need parts, MATRIX Marine (aka Supercat)
    has all the parts for the boat. They are also currently building the
    17, 19XL, the new 22', and the RC27. Matrix's phone number is 
    612-426-3922. 
    
    I believe the new price for a 17 is 6-7K, but you still got a great
    deal.
    
    Supercat is having the Nationals this year in July in Manitowoc,
    Wisconson on Lake Michigan. The 1991 Nationals were in Long Island
    Sound (Great Peconic Bay). I went last year,  had a great time, and am
    definatly going this year.
    
    
    Scott
1849.9July 1992 Supercat nationalsUNIFIX::BERENSThe ModeratorMon Jul 06 1992 15:0319
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    The date for the 1992 Supercat Nationals is
    
    July 19 (sunday) thru July 24 (friday).
    
    The regatta HQ is "Inn at Maritime Bay", Manitowoc, Wisconsin.
    
    Above are only by word of mouth.
    Contact Matrix Marine for official info.
    
1849.10Supercat 1993 Nationals on Lake WinnipesaukeeWEDOIT::MALCOLMWed Jun 30 1993 16:2830
    Since this is as close to a "Supercat" note as we have, I'll enter this
    here.
    
    Supercat is having the 1993 Supercat USA Regatta this year in New 
    Hampshire on Lake Winnipesaukee. The dates are July 26 thru July 30.
    The race site will be Ellacoya State park in Gilford, NH.
    
    I attended the last 2 years in Long Island and Wisconson and had a 
    great time both years.
    
    The boats involved will be the Supercat 15's, 17's, 19's, 20's, 22's
    and possibly one or more RC27's. I also understand Bill Roberts will
    be attending and sailing either on his new 22 or on a 17.
    
    The races will be a combination of some distance races and also some
    triangle courses.
    
    For more info, send mail to WEDOIT::MALCOLM or call me /leave message
    at 603-569-6740. I'll be on vacation from July 1-9. I have registration
    forms and itinerarys available. My DTN is 223-0251.
    
    
    I also will probably be looking for some people interested in crewing
    on some of the boats. I'm not sure right now how many openings I'll
    have, but I'll start a list and keep anyone interested informed.
    
    Thanks
    
    Scott (who is glad he gets a break from driving this year)