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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1843.0. "VAXes for America's Cup" by BER::MENNINGEN () Fri Mar 20 1992 13:10

I heard several times that VAXes were used during the races of the AC
to process data taken by a camera in real time to control sail trim to
optimize the boat performance.

Is there anyone, who can help me to get more details about hardware and
software used, functionality and concepts, and who provided the software.

I would like to use the information for a talk I have to give at April,
12, if the subject turns out to be suitable.

Matthias
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1843.1Digi-draft?MILKWY::WAGNERScottFri Mar 20 1992 13:3312
    
    	I'll take a stab- down in RI a couple of guys rigged a camera/frame
    grabber board/PC and digitized the draft stripes, basically. You could
    get suggestions of draft placement, car position, vang etc. This story
    is almost 10 years old, and cameras have gotten *lots* cheaper, so by
    now you probably need to add strain gauges, accelerometers,
    inclinometers and such to the equation.
    	Maybe a (big) sail loft can fill in some blanks?
    
    	Keep us updated- maybe I can work and sail yet!
    
    	Scott
1843.2AKOCOA::DOUGANMon Mar 23 1992 13:322
    see note 1833
    
1843.3See 1822.40 !BER::MENNINGENThu Mar 26 1992 13:212
Dan LeBlanc gave me the pointer to note 1822.40, thank you!
Matthias
1843.4Top secretEPS::SAMUELSONMon Mar 30 1992 11:3312
    In Freemantle, New Zealand used tv cameras and VAXen along with very
    large, black draft stripes on their sails.  The cameras were mounted on
    the mast.  Matador2 uses PC's.  Their cameras are mounted in the deck. 
    It is good for documenting sail shapes that are "fast" and then being
    able to reproduce them.  Many of the IACC programs are using this
    technology now, primarily for the mains, since the size and complexity
    of the tuning job is so huge.  Neither North or Doyle have "embraced"
    this technology from a sail design point of view.  All the
    implementations have been proprietary, and usually quite confidential.
    (E.G., I wouldn't suggest calling Koch and asking him how it works or
    about his results.) Although if you know some of the folks at MIT (I
    don't) they may be willing to share some info.
1843.5Medium Tech... the trailing edge!MILKWY::WAGNERScottMon Mar 30 1992 11:4916
    
    	Funny thing is, when I was trying to tune to my new North genny
    2 seasons back, the North rep was on his back, on the foredeck, with
    a Polaroid, taking pictures of my draftstripes! He said they'd be
    marked up, then studied by Judd, then filed....?
    
    	And, Ive heard the North Fast course provides you a piece of clear
    plastic (sail-scope?) to view your shapes with. Isn't this just the
    non-automatic, old generation of the same thing the PC's are doing?
    
    	Between target boatspeeds, autohelms and computerized sailshape
    advice, I can stay below and debug code on race day...
    
    	Just like work, kinda!
    
    	Instrument_Inadequate_Scott
1843.6No Vaxen on NZ AC boatsPIHIA::ARLINGTONMon Mar 30 1992 21:1715
Re -.2

	No vaxen where used in freemantle by the NZ challenge. They asked for
some but didn't get any so they asked Hewlett Packard and they used theirs.
They where used in the manner described with the draft stripes being checked
against references marked on the deck. As an aside H-P are running advertisement 
around their involment in the AC. 

The Australiian boats used vaxes in freemantle  in some capacity as did S+S. 

	A vax2000 was used on the Whitbread Round the World boat Fisher + paykel
that finished 2nd last time out.

Cheers
Revel