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1836.1 | Hope this helps | STAR::KENNEY | | Sun Mar 08 1992 15:32 | 93 |
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1) Handicapping is not all that hard but requires some work. You can
obtain from the United States Sailing Association former USYRU the
portsmouth (???) numbers for various boats. This is a handicap
system set up to allow different types of boats to race. To do it
perfectly requires a fair amount of work but with the data sheet and
some simple math you should be able to work it out. A back issue in
the last year or so of American Sailor had a article about this
system.
2) Rules you do not need to apply the full racing rules you can
condense and grow your own. If you do this you will not be able to
get support from USSA if you need a ruling. Not a problem this is
supposed to fun racing right.... After the form feed is a simplified
set handed out by the the old USYRU.
3) Courses set what works for you nothing says you have to follow
something drawn in a book. Just make sure what you choose is easily
understood by all.
I wish more places used portsmouth system locally. I would like to
buy a boat that I have used and enjoy but with 0 local representation.
Without a place to race it buying one is less appealing. To the best
of my knowledge none of the racing fleets locally use the portsmouth
systems for races.
Forrest
USYRU
YACHT RACING RIGHT-OF-WAY RULES IN BRIEF
Simplified,Condensed,Unofficial
Below are the basic racing right-of-way rules in simple, brief
form. They are intended as an aid to newcomers to the sport and
not as a substitute for the official rules. All racers should
have their own copy of the Official Yacht Racing Rules.
1. PORT-STARBOARD. When yachts are on opposite tacks (booms are
on different sides), port tack (yacht with boom on the
starboard side) keep clear. See rule 36.
2. WINDWARD-LEEWARD. When yachts are on the same tack (booms on
the same side), the windward yacht keeps clear, or the yacht
astern keeps clear. See rule 37.
3. CHANGING TACK. When you are tacking or jibing, keep clear of
other yachts. After you tack or jibe and suddenly get
right-of-way, give the other yacht room and time to keep clear.
See rule 41.
4. LUFFING BEFORE STARTING. Before clearing the line you may
luff a yacht to windward, but you must do it slowly. See rule
40.
5. BARGING. At the start, don't "barge." That means don't try to
squeeze between a yacht close to leeward of you and a starting
line mark (which probably is a race committee boat). See rule
42.4.
6. OVER EARLY. If you are over the line early at the start, keep
clear of all yachts that started properly as you return to
restart. See rule 44.
7. BUOY ROOM. When you are about to round or pass a mark or an
obstruction, give all yachts overlapping you on the inside room
to pass the mark or obstruction. See rule 42.
8. LUFFING AFTER STARTING. When another boat tries to pass you
to windward you may luff her until her skipper hails "mast
abeam" (means her skipper is even with or ahead of your mast).
Then you must stop luffing and bear off to your proper course.
See rule 38.
9. TOUCHING A MARK. If you touch a mark, you may continue racing
only after getting completely clear of other yachts and then
making two complete 360� turns (720� ) in the same direction,
including two tacks and two jibes. See rules 52 and 45.
10. RULE INFRINGEMENT. If you infringe a rule while racing (you
are racing from your preparatory signal until you clear the
finish line), you are obligated to retire promptly. Sometimes
the sailing instructions permit an alternative penalty such as
the "720 Rule" or a percentage scoring penalty. See Fundamental
rule D and Appendix 3. Even when you have right-of-way it is
your duty to avoid collisions. See rule 32.
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1836.2 | Start a One-Design Fleet | ESDNI4::LAZGIN | | Mon Mar 09 1992 16:50 | 6 |
| I suggest you start a One-Design Class at Bare Hill Pond. You could
choose a class and build interest. A Snipe or 470 might be a good
place to start.
Frank
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1836.3 | Why do they have to do that | STAR::KENNEY | | Tue Mar 10 1992 13:42 | 45 |
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I hate to disagree but from the tone of the base a one-design fleet
is not what they are after. Looks like a bunch of folks who each
have a boat that suits their needs and see each other on a regular
basis. They would like to do some racing without investing much money
or time. Building a one design fleet would involve both time and
money.... All they need is a fair way to handicap each other and some
minimal rules. All of these can be covered with a couple of phone
calls to USSA, a calculator and a stop watch. If they want to get
fancy a chart to accurately determine the length of the course.
Don't get me wrong one-design is a good way to go if you are
willing to build a fleet, join an existing one or chase around to
regattas. I keep wishing that a regular dinghy handicap series were
run locally. I like to race, I do not want to buy a large two person
dinghy, and I do not fit the common one-design single handers. Instead
I sit back and don't race much. I work at a sailing program I teach a
little, help run the Wednesday night fun series, and some other
programs events and occasionally race. Keeps me out of trouble but
does not satisfy my urge to race more.
I look at a regatta like the old Red Lobster Cup. They get a large
one-design draw but they also get a large run what you brung fleet.
People have fun get to race and it grows and grows.... In talking to
other FL sailors many of the FL regattas have a run what you brung fleet
and it works... I believe that in order for sailing to grow and prosper
we need to do the following:
1) Promote low cost learn to sail programs, clubs, community
sailing programs etc.
2) Promote Fun Fun Fun
3) Provide easy access, N.E. seems to fail that based on my limited
experience when compared to FL....
4) Promote racing as a fun activity (not a megabuck cut throat
exercise) for all no matter what they sail.....
Forrest
Ps. This strayed from the base topic sorry but I want sailing
to grow. Telling people fit this mold is the only way to
go is not the answer.
PPS. If you want some help dealing with the USSA let me know. I
know a few people from USSA from my involvement with a
community sailing program.
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1836.4 | Use your own handicaps? | LARVAE::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, Digital Services - Office Consultant, London | Wed Mar 11 1992 04:19 | 42 |
| The Portsmouth Rating system of handicapping is worked on on the
"average" boats for certain classes. This means that in your own
small local fleet you might have some people with a newish boat that
doesn't compete fairly with some of the older boats....
You could easily create your own handicaps.
Have a race. Time each boat around the course. Calculate the number
of seconds each boat took.
Divide the 420's time by a handicap of 115, and this will give you an
approx "corrected time". (Why 115? - 'cos then your numbers will
match approximately with Portsmouth nos).
Use this corrected time to calculate the other boats handicaps, using
the formula:
ACTUAL TIME
----------- = HANDICAP
CORRECTED TIME
Then round the handicaps of each boat to the nearest whole number.
Then in the future you just have a race, record the finishing times
of each boat, and then calculate the corrected time as follows:
ACTUAL TIME
CORRECTED TIME = -----------
HANDICAP
(remember the actual time is in seconds, so on the calculator enter:
Hours * 60 + Mins * 60 + Seconds / Handicap = ).
Record the results over the season and give the winner a bottle of
champagne.
Also record the actual times of each race, and you can then
re-calculate the handicaps based on the season's average, ready for
next year.
Cheers, Chris
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1836.5 | Somemore data | STAR::KENNEY | | Wed Mar 11 1992 10:42 | 20 |
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Some numbers:
Sunfish 105.5
Force 5 95.4
Zuni ????
420 97.5
Snipe 93.8
Boston Whaler 16 ????
Day Sailer 99.8
Butterfly 108
Hobie 14 87.2
They are out of date and they are the average the actual break outs
are for wind ranges. But could help give you a starting point if you
do not want to try and get the latest official numbers. The values are
constantly being refined with actual race data.
Forrest
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1836.6 | One-Design/Mixed-Fleet | VIKA::HUGHES | TANSTAAFL | Thu Mar 12 1992 16:44 | 22 |
| Gosh! Thanks for the input guys. This is what I was looking for. Perhaps someone
has a number to contact USSA?
re. One-Design vs Mixed Fleet - I'm at the feasibility study stage of this
project. Right now, there's just me and one other guy. Now that I have a rough
idea of how to setup rules and rate the boats I'll run an add in the local
weekly to find other racers. I'm not interested in getting into one design but
we may find enough others who are to build a fleet. Who knows? I don't see the
two as mutually exclusive. In fact I think they complement each other. (All you
Type-As to the left, Type-Bs to the right.)
re. Promoting sailing - I try to do this all the time. I've only been sailing
for a couple of years but I try to encourage people at the ramp, (which is next
to the Town beach in Harvard), to look at the boat and ask questions. It's fun
and you often meet interesting people. The town has a sailing program for kids
which uses Phantoms and I will be contacting them about this project as well to
see if there is any cross fertilization possible, (and to head off any potential
concerns/problems).
Thanks again for the help. I'll keep ya posted on how it goes.
Mike H
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1836.7 | 401-849-5200 | STAR::KENNEY | | Thu Mar 12 1992 19:22 | 5 |
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The number is 401-849-5200.....
Forrest
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