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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1718.0. "depthsounders" by HURON::HOLZER () Tue May 14 1991 08:59

I'm thinking of buying a new depthsounder, there is one parameter that doesn't
seemed to be mentioned in most of the catalogs...the size of the hole in the
hull required for the transducers. My old depthsounder only required a hole
of about 1/2" diameter. Some of the new units require much larger openings.
I would like to find a new unit with a transducer that requires a hole of 1"
diameter max, preferably less. Any information would be appreciated.
			Thanks.....Rich


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1718.1Fathos: Olde Tech.MILKWY::WAGNERTue May 14 1991 13:0816
    	Good luck- most of the commercial fatho's are a bit bigger. No
    reason they couldn't be made smaller, even with comparable efficiency,
    but nothing seems to be driving that. For instance, another $1.50 would
    buy enough processor power to change the pulse rate with the depth; in
    other words, when it's reading 300', 5 updates/sec are just wasting
    your battery. But I haven't seen much practice of that. My Signet has a
    pseudo-"lookahead" which beeps if the contour is heading quickly
    towards shallow, but not much else. Oh, yeah, it also has a strange
    sense of humor- it sometimes ramps down the readout, slowly, looking
    like grounding is imminent. In their defense, the company DID admit the
    dsign was less than great, and they'd replace it with the new design-
    for $350 or so.
    
    	Oh well, let us know if you find one that's smaller.
    
    	Scott.
1718.2CHRCHL::GERMAINImprovise! Adapt! Overcome!Tue May 14 1991 13:234
    Get yourself a lead and many fathom's of rope - even if you DO find a
    good electronic gadget. They can fold up and go away.....
    
    Gregg
1718.3More on DSOFFPLS::RYANTue May 14 1991 17:4915
    I just bought a DS.  The best deal that I found was a Horizon Standard
    DS-10 with various features: digital read out, anchor alarm (when
    contour changes too much), shallow alarm ... all for $239.  
    
    I think .1 is correct in the size of the transducer.  You don't have to
    have the transducer through-hull mounted if the hull is solid-core. 
    Maybe you could fill you old hole in with epoxy then redrill with a
    larger hole saw.
    
    BTW, I had my instruments installed.  The going rate is about the same
    as any boatyard charges ($45-50 hour).  Since the yard has all the
    correct drill bits, beveled hole saws, etc. - this seemed like a deal
    to me.  The total for me was $112 for the DS, KM, and compass.
    
    Bob
1718.4GET CRUISING WORLDFSOA::JGARDINEROpen Systems ProgramThu May 16 1991 14:245
    Get a copy of this months Cruising World.  The lead article is on depth
    sounders and they have a comparisor chart of major brands.
    
    Jeff
    
1718.5Alternate solution foundHURON::HOLZERTue May 28 1991 14:2229
I might have found the depthsounder that meets most of my requirements!

7/8" hole required
Feet,Fathoms and Meters 
Low cost (under $200)
Digital readout
Depths to 200' (700' would be nice for continental shelf)
Reasonable power requirements (12V @ 0.5amp)
Manufacturer with some longevity and service capability



The requirements have been met by an Apelco model 241 LCD fishfinder.
In addition to the above it has the following features:

Automatic or Manual Gain control
Shallow and deep water alarms (handy for following bottom contours in the fog)
Display of bottom profile (with Zoom feature) (handy for finding shipwrecks!)
Cone angle greater than some of the other "sailboat depthsounders"
5 Ranges of display (0-15, 0-30, 0-60, 0-120, 0 -240ft)
Bronze transducer
Fishfinding (wonder if it works for SHARKS...handy to know before you jump in!)

The limitations of the unit appear to be:
No zero offset
Size of digital numerals small (1/2" high perhaps)
Digital readout 4' min