Title: | SAILING |
Notice: | Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference |
Moderator: | UNIFIX::BERENS |
Created: | Wed Jul 01 1992 |
Last Modified: | Mon Jun 02 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2299 |
Total number of notes: | 20724 |
WANTED: LIVE-ABOARD CRUISER We are looking for a live-aboard for two adults and a child. It need not be in Bristol condition but must be sound. It would have a nearly full keel -- some forefoot cut away -- and be strong enough to go offshore. Wood and FRP are preferred, but we might consider steel. We have definite limits to our budget, so Swans and Hans Christians and others of that ilk are way out of our range. If wood: LOA: 35 - 42 feet LWL: 26 or more feet Beam: 10 - 11 feet Draft: 5 - 5'8" (might consider sightly more) Rig: Masthead cutter if on the 35-foot side, masthead yawl if on the 42-foot side. If yawl, it must balance under jib and mizzen; double headsails would be preferred If Fiberglas LOA: 32 - 38 feet LWL: 26 or more feet Beam: 10 - 11 feet Draft: 5 - 5'8" Rig: Masthead cutter, possibly masthead yawl Regardless of hull material: Max Mainsail area: 400 sq feet Displacement: moderate to heavy Performance: Should at least move in light airs (7 - 10 knots) with working sails; or at worst with genoa; Reasonable windward ability (capable of 90 - 100 degree tacks) Balanced and able to be steered by a windvane Diesel engine 25 - 25 hp Minimum 18 inch side-decks No bowsprit or short bowsprit Lead keel Tankage for 80 or more gallons of water (ideally) Tiller steering preferred 1 quarter berth, 1 double berth 1 head with shower wire rigging self-draining cockpit Icing on the cake: self-tailing winches, windvane, propane cooking stove with oven, chart table Unacceptable: Centerboarder, gaff or fractional rigs, fin keels, light displacement Contact: Brian Kologe DTN 264-0940; after 6 pm or weekends 508-388-2640 or MRKTNG::KOLOGE
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1620.1 | Cost | SAGE::KOLOGE | Wed Nov 07 1990 10:16 | 4 | |
I should add that we are trying to keep the cost of the boat below $40K. Brian | |||||
1620.2 | Performance for 34' Cruisers | MEMORY::LAZGIN | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:16 | 10 | |
Your performance expections sound unrealistic ! Has anyone seen a 34 ft. offshore cuiser go 7 to 10 KNOTS in Light Wind... (with only 400 sq ft of sail) ??? !!! Last winter I was on a Swan 50, designed to the IOR rules, and we 'cruised' at 7 knots in moderate air. Frank | |||||
1620.3 | Better be ready to surf/plane!!!!! | ROYALT::FGZ | Fred Genoese-Zerbi Vox Populi Suprema Lex | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:50 | 3 |
Hull speed for a 34' is only ~7.8 Kn.!!!!! | |||||
1620.4 | correction | SAGE::KOLOGE | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:58 | 6 | |
Sorry for my lack of clarity. Not move at 7 to 10 knots in light airs, but overcome inertia in 7 to 10 knots of wind -- so it at least moves at a few knots in light airs. I'm may be a dreamer, but even I have limits... B. | |||||
1620.5 | Why? | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | Thu Nov 08 1990 16:56 | 8 | |
I understood what you meant. The limiting factor is your insistence on a full keel. By doing so, you are eliminating a whole range of production boats that meet everything else, including price, you are looking for. A good example is the C&C 40. Great volume of room below, plenty of speed, well built and available for your price range in many markets. Why this full keel thing. This IS the 20th century. Dave |