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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1489.0. "Abandon ship -- Valiant 40" by MEMORY::LAZGIN () Tue Apr 24 1990 14:26

    Sail magazine just published a story regarding the decision of
    when to Abandon Ship.
    
    A Valient 40, sailing in the South Pacific, was reported to have
    been knock-down twice. (160 degree knock-down)  The damage was so 
    extensive that the crew decided to abandon ship to a passing freighter!
    
    This was a very interesting story.  I was surprized that a Valient 40
    would have sustained so much damage.
    
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1489.1KNOCKED - DOWN ??NYEM1::LEARYFAIR DINKUM, SAIL TO OZ, MATE!Tue Apr 24 1990 14:416
    I haven't seen the article, but perhaps she was struck by a rouge
    wave or such.
    I would be interested in comments on this, as i have a Hans Christian
    which is of similar design.
    
    Regards,  Mike
1489.2The boat survived VERITA::BAHLINWed Apr 25 1990 12:2813
    The article had nothing about the events or conditions that led up to
    the knockdown.   I was kind of surprised about this but I guess the
    author wanted to focus on the abandon ship question.    
    
    The boat survived, was salvaged, and was subsequently sold in a
    negotiated deal with the salvager and a new owner (French I think).
    The primary factor in the abandonment decision was that the boat was
    without electricity due to battery damage (fell from boxes).   It
    sounded like significant damage was incurred by upside down things
    that were not properly secured for hanging from the bilge :*).
    
    Even a Valiant needs offshore preparation and it sounded like this
    skipper hadn't done enough of that.
1489.3Valiant, the boat that saves itself?MFGMEM::KEENANPAUL KEENAN DTN 297-7332Wed Apr 25 1990 13:1611
    Elsewhere in the magazine, the previous owner of the boat talks
    about how he sailed it around the world in the BOC and competed in
    the Transpac. You'd think the problem would have surfaced sooner.
    
    If they had the batteries secured better, and less equipment stowed on 
    the deck and railings, they would have been in great shape.
    
    Do all liferafts inflate when the boat turtles? Since many boats can
    survive this, it doesn't make sense to me.
    
    Paul 
1489.4It is not a boat's problem CIVAGE::KAPUSCINSKIWed Apr 25 1990 14:5644
 I own  Valiant 40 '77 and I read this article with great interest. It never 
mentioned that it was a boat's fault that they had to abandon her. If they have 
done boat preperation for offshore cruising they would not suffer extensive 
demage during knockdown. As boat is ordered from the factory, it is not deliver to
you with all offshore safety features unless you have cutomized it and then
paid for it. If I was going offshore I would need to modify my boat to 
fullfill this requirements. 
The major changes to be done:

	- Battery boxes ( reinforced and batteries bolted down) as it
	stands now they are just being held by nylon belts.

	- Any locker or berth storage compartment lids secured with 
	lockable device.

	- Icebox lid (about 8 in. thick) secured down. At present it is
	just sitting in the openning.

	- Chain locker equipped with chain pipe leading to reinforced
	compatment below the V berth

	- Single board for hutchboard and beef-up retaining lip + lock

	- Companion way hutch does not have storm skirt

	etc. 

As you can see there are quite a few modification which need to be completed 
before boat is offshore found. 

	It appears these owners have not done their homework. They have not 
abondone their boat because she was sinking, the boat was still afloat, they
lost electric power, and the most important fact that the skipper got injured 
therefore only his wife could do any physical work and she needed to attend to
their both children. It is not an easy situation at night and during a storm. In
this situation they decided that it was much safer for them to accept rescue
than continue on. If things were different they might have sailed onto safety.

In the end boat has survived, been salvaged and then sold to new owners,
therefore she could not have been a total wreck.

I am going go back and read this article again for more details.

Igor.