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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1082.0. "RayJeff Loran?" by UPOVAX::SCHLESS () Thu Dec 29 1988 11:42

    Does anyone have information on reliability/quality/etc
    on the RayJeff L999? I got one for Xmas from a spouse
    sick of being fogged in to Buzzard's Bay, andbefore
    I install it would like to know whether its the right one
    in the $500 range.
    
    Beau
    

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1082.1RAYNAV 570 - Best BuySSVAX::REDFIELDSun Jan 08 1989 14:589
    From what I have heard, the RayJeff is a good line.  The best buy
    from a functional as well as reliability standpoint is reputed to
    be the Ratheon RAYNAV 570.
    
    I got one as a present as well.  It was purchased from NEPTUNE Trading
    Corp. in Harrison,NY (800-637-0660).  Cost was $599.00.
    
    Carl

1082.235 knots with no sails!DLOACT::CLEVELANDTue May 01 1990 20:4126
    I have a RayJefferson 990 Loran that is driving me nuts and I need some
    help figuring out what is causing my problem....
    
    I can turn on my Loran, in my slip, let it lock into the SE quadrant
    signals, check out the SNR and signal strength (which are all great),
    put it on the display to show either TD or Lat/lon with bearing and
    speed and watch the fun begin.
    
    While I am in my slip, my loran varies in its bearing reading 120
    degrees and tells me I'm doing anywhere from 1.2 to 35 knts! I've got
    it set to give me an average every 3 minutes, but the scale is updating
    far faster than that. I'm also showing to be in a location about
    2degrees away from where I really am, but I figure some offsets can be
    put in to fix this problem. 
    
    Needless to say, I have ZERO faith in this equipment until I can get it
    settled down and at least consistent. Any ideas anyone? 
    
    The Antenna is approx a 6ft whip mounted on the aft of the boat, base
    at the top of the cockpit (if this helps any). When underway out of the
    marina I have the same problem, so I don't believe its a reflection
    problem. It occurs consistently whether it's day or night.
    
    Help!
    
    Robert
1082.3Dynaplate again?????DNEAST::PEASE_DAVEI said Id have to think about itWed May 02 1990 09:5138
>    While I am in my slip, my loran varies in its bearing reading 120
>    degrees and tells me I'm doing anywhere from 1.2 to 35 knts! I've got
>    it set to give me an average every 3 minutes, but the scale is updating
>    far faster than that. I'm also showing to be in a location about
>    2degrees away from where I really am, but I figure some offsets can be
>    put in to fix this problem. 

	I'm going to assume that the loran is not broken.  First, any bearing
readings while you are not moving are quite likely to rangy widely.  The loran
is trying to figure out what direction you are moving by monitoring the slight
differences in the propagation calculations inherent in this type of device.
The bearing will therefore range widely.  I'd expect a little speed but not
what you are seeing.  For the loran to come to these conclusions, it would
have to see that kind of descrepency in the TD's.  Also, if the loran is
really reading 2 degrees away, it isn't just because you haven't turn on the
automatic Additional Secondary Factors (ASF).  The loran has auto ASF doesn't
it?

	I would get the owners manual and turn to the section on initialization.
It looks like the loran is assuming the wrong location for the TD pair.  Each
TD can occur on 2 location on the earth.  You have to tell the loran which one
to start with.  It then can keep track as you manuveur around.  If the loran
was initalized far away, and you bought it out of state, installed it and fired
it up, it'd be confused.

	The wide speed ranging may be due to not having a daynaplate which
bolts onto the bottom of the boat so the loran can use the conductive ocean
as a ground plane for the antenna.  The loran frequency is VERY low (100 khz),
and the ground plane is required.  The dynaplate may help when the weather
gets sour also.

	Check all antenna coaxial connections for corrosion also.

	Good Luck
	Dave

p.s. I agree, I'd not trust it until the speed and location problems are fixed.