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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

974.0. "America's Cup News Needed" by SHIRE::MEYER () Fri Sep 09 1988 14:27

    	Could someone give us Europeans a running commentary on the
    America cup races, as the news is scarce over here, & sailing warrants
    nanoseconds of news time,  & is not mentioned in the sports programs
    on either French or Swiss tv.
    
    		Do tell me how you won...

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974.1See note 636AKOV11::KALINOWSKIFri Sep 09 1988 15:016
      See note 636.170 on 
    
      and don't blink, it might be over by then
    
    john

974.2Hope this helpsLAGUNA::MILLMAN_JAI'D RATHER BE CRUISINGFri Sep 09 1988 15:2815
    Conners won by 18 plus minutes. The N.Z. team complained that Conners
    did not race to his potential and they would have had more respect
    for Conners had he won by 1 to 1 1/2 hours that he should have had
    he raced a full out race.  At the start the winds were light (5-7
    knots) with very smove seas.  The start had very little starting
    tactics - I thought that the N.Z. boat would drive for the upwind
    position, but didn't.  About 30 to 45 minutes into the race the
    N.Z. started a tacking duel and went thru about 20 or so tacks.
    Conner was able to cover and not lose any time.  The comment was
    that everyone was surprised at how fast the cat was able to tack.
    The winds picked up to 9 knots later.  The race was a waste of time
    nad very boring.  Conners not only held back (never was there a
    hul out of the water) but you could see the jib lufting many times.
    There was just not much action at all.

974.3Not as dull as race 1 but almostSTAR::KENNEYFri Sep 09 1988 22:3110
    Conners won by 20 minutes in race 2 the series is over.  The press
    conference has yet to take place.  If Mr Fay is to be believed it is
    off the court.  With the american legal system this could drag on for
    years if the two parties want to keep appealing the decision (lets hope
    not).  Now that the freak show is over I hope that they can agree on a
    boat type and a date.
    
    
    Forrest

974.4CHEFS::GOUGHPPete Gough @REOMon Sep 12 1988 03:504
    Perhaps if Connors was now to have some match racing with DeSavary's
    boat not for the cup but simply high tec vs hi tec we could start
    another cup for these types of designs ie a free for all ......

974.5It's make a GREAT cartoon ...MPGS::BAILEYBMay the 4 winds blow u safely homeMon Sep 12 1988 09:0310
    RE .4
    
    Yeah!  We could have a "no holds barred" type race, animate it, and put
    it on Saturday morning with the rest of the children's shows.  Call it
    the Wacky Sailboat Races, or something like that.  The kids would LOVE
    it.  (I could see it now ... "Trim that sheet Snideley, tighten up the 
    foreguy Muttley, nyahahah)...
    
    ... Bob (with all due :^) )

974.6New group needed?EUCLID::PAULHUSChris @ MLO8-3/T13 dtn 223-6871Mon Sep 12 1988 13:259
    	About 10 years ago, the bicycle world was in a similar bind.
    Regulations kept advanced designs from racing.  The typical buyer
    would only buy what won at the races.  Because of this, the IHPVA
    (International Human Powered Vehicle Assn.) was formed, with land,
    air and water divisions (but most of the activity is in the land
    div.).  Perhaps someday we will see bikes racing in two divisions:
    unlimited and Classic.   Perhaps the sailing world could use an
    IHPVA?   - Chris  (a recumbent rider)

974.7more inputLAGUNA::MILLMAN_JAI'D RATHER BE CRUISINGMon Sep 12 1988 17:3712
    There was more action in the press conference after the second race
    than in the race itself.  Marshall(?), the designer of stars$stripes
    called the N.Z. boat a "dog" adt Farr called Marshall a liar.  Conners
    got into ther act of tewlling Farr to get off the stage etc....this
    whole act was soooo bad that on the evening the station I watched
    had a commentary on how poorly Conners acted.  They asls commented
    on how well they (the newspeople) were treated by the N.Z. group
    when the visited their compound prior to the race and how poorly
    they were treated by the stars$strips group.  I had a chance to
    visit both areas a couple weeke before the race and i can attest
    to this.  

974.8New Zealand on TourMILVAX::HOMon Oct 31 1988 09:4313
    
    According to the 10/29 Boston Globe, the cup challanger New Zealand
    will tour several New England states the week of 10/31.  The schedule,
    from memory, is:
    
    New York City thru Tuesday 11/2
    Norwalk Conn Wednesday 11/3
    Newport RI Thursday 11/3
    Boston Ma Friday 11/4 for four days
    
    The Boston location wasn't mentioned but it will probably be the
    Charlestown Navy Yard where Courageous is kept.

974.9Schedule update, maybe?WBC::RODENHISERMon Oct 31 1988 14:4521
    Re: .8
    
    These dates didn't match the ones published down here. Since there
    was number listed for further info I just called and was given
    the following.

    New York (Brooklyn)  Boat in process of leaving today (10-31)
    Newport              11-02
    Boston               11-04, 05, 06, 07
    Baltimore            11-11, 12, 13
    Annapolis            11-15, 16
    Alexandria           11-18, 19, 20
    Philadelphia         11-23, 24, 25

    The person I talked to knew nothing about Norwalk. He did say that
    on the travel days (i.e. 11-03, 11-08, 11-09, 11-10, etc) that the
    boat MAY visit various harbors between major stops but arrangements
    to allow boarding couldn't be predicted.

    J_R

974.10Need locationSTAR::KENNEYThu Nov 03 1988 18:437
    Did you ever find out where in Boston the boat will be.  I am thinking
    of going but really do not want to wander around the waterfront looking
    for it. 
    
    
    Forrest

974.11WBC::RODENHISERFri Nov 04 1988 08:2810
    Try this number: 212-344-5454
    
    If it works, it is most likely the NZ Council of Tourism in NY and
    they should know.
    
    If it doesn't then it was probably a temporary number connected
    to the boat when it was in Brooklyn.
    
    J_R

974.12It's on Long WharfMILVAX::HOFri Nov 04 1988 13:4615
    
    New Zealand and crew (some of them anyway) are supposed to be at
    Boston's Long Wharf 11/4 through 11/7.
    
    Long Wharf is between the Aquarium and the Marriot Hotel on Atlantic
    Ave.
    
    Unfortunately, the boat will not be rigged for sailing.  It's being
    transported by barge and will remain on it for the duration of its
    stay.  
    
    Hours will be 9:30 to 6:00.  Admission is free.
    
    - gene

974.13Thanks!STAR::KENNEYFri Nov 04 1988 14:577
    Thanks.
    
    
    Forrest
    
    Ps.  Sounds like a good chance to vist two things into one trip.