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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

889.0. "finn class" by BRAT::CLARK () Thu Jul 07 1988 11:56

    the globe yesterday had a photo in the sports section of a finn
    class sailbotat at the olympic trials in marblehead. any info on
    these boats ?  they look like a glorified laser,am i right ?

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889.1EXPERT::SPENCERJohn SpencerThu Jul 07 1988 13:1310
A Finn is a lot more than a glorified Laser, at least to those who sail
them.  They have an unstayed, bendy rig on a rather narrow hull.  They
have more sail area than a Laser, which together with a less stable hull
form makes for exciting sailing.  They are acknowledged to be a "young
man's boat", since keeping them going a competitive speed in any wind is a
very athletic endeavour.  They are an Olympic class, which helps keep 
young agressive sailors interested in sailing them.

J.

889.2Not a LASER...ODIHAM::JORDANChris Jordan, South UK Application CentreFri Jul 08 1988 09:1033
 .0� they look like a glorified laser,am i right ?

    Don't believe everything that you see in a magazine.....

    N.B. Don't believe everything that you read in a NOTES file, either
    - I have never sailed one, although I have sailed an OK (European
    boat, approx. same size as a Laser, like a baby Finn, but a little easier
    to sail for most people).
    
    A FINN looks a very nice boat when it is sailed well, but it is
    normally sailed by Olympic hopefuls - i.e. the sort of people who
    could sail ANY boat very well. 
    
    The hull is rounded underneath - so there is nothing stopping it 
    	from rolling....
    The mast is unstayed, and very bendy.... The boom is attached to
    	the mast, and often finds its way across the boat at a height of
    	about 2 inches above the deck....
    The helms are often to be found wearing full skateboarding protection
    	suits. (although I would recommend a football players protection!).
    The boat has a metal centre-plate. So? It means that, although the
    	boat is sailed by one person, it can NOT be recovered from the water
    	by one person.
    The sail is slightly on the large size.... You need to be young
    	(18-30 ish), VERY fit (weight training 5 nights a week), VERY strong,
	VERY agile, and fairly heavy (12 - 15 stone).

    Because of these attributes it makes an ideal Olympic sailing boat,
    (as it has for the last 25 or 30 years), but don't be tempted to
    buy one until you have had a trial sail!!!.
    
    Cheers, Chris

889.3Finns aren't THAT masochisticMILVAX::HOFri Jul 08 1988 12:3946
    I've sailed Finns quite a few time in the past and have not found
    them to be quite as brutal a boat as may be inferred from the previous
    replies.  Finn is about twice as heavy as a Laser, maybe one foot
    longer and about one foot deeper.  The mast is a single section
    rather than a double and tapers dramatically from the step to the
    mast.  Sail area is a good deal more than on the Laser.  Sail and
    board controls are much more sophisticated and lead to both sides
    of the cockpit.  Generally, everything can be adjusted while hiking
    out.
    
    When setting the boat up to sail there's a bit more work than with
    a Laser.  Because of the weight it's ususally not cartopped although
    with help, it's possible.  Getting it in the water requires a trailer
    or dolly.  The mast isn't any more trouble.  The taper actually
    makes it fairly easy to balance.  The strings that control everything
    are a pain.  But they're real nice to use once they're set up.
    
    Sailing one is pleasure.  Much dryer than a Laser because of the
    greater freeboard.  Nice rounded and padded rail to hike on.  More
    stable than a Laser because of the weight and flatness of the hull
    aft of the centerboard.  Not quite as hair trigger responsive but
    that just makes for fewer capsizes.  If you do go over, it's not
    hard to get back up.  I've done it often enough and I weigh 145
    lbs.  The boom really is low though.  Kiss the deck on tacks and
    jibes.
    
    What appears to be "skateboarding" equipment is usually just a wetsuit.
    The sailing ones come with padded knees and elbows to reduce wear.
    The one peice of specialized gear that Finn sailors wear is a water
    bottle jacket to increase leverage while hiking.  This can weigh
    over 35 lbs.  Olympic stomach muscles are a prereq for hiking with
    one of these.
    
    Finns were much more common before the Lasers became popular.  But
    the weight, cost (over 3x Laser), and complexity have made them
    something of a specialty item.  Community boating in Boston had
    some before buying Lasers.
    
    Finns are hard to race competitively but not hard to sail.  Very
    responsive and predictable in all conditions.  I've often toyed
    with the idea of getting a used one for pleasure sailing to replace
    the Etchells.  But I'm addicted to racing and there's no local
    competition for them.
    
    - gene ho 

889.4They're fantastic!NAC::SCHUCHARDtransmorgifiedThu Aug 25 1988 15:3712
    
    	Finns are absolutely one of the most fun 1-designs I have ever
    sailed. You can make one go almost side-ways up wind - that's towards
    the mark.  The Laser is a poor cousin in my opinion - but then again
    they are easier to haul around.
    
    	If you are into racing real-hard, and enjoy the competiveness
    of pitting your skills against the other, this boats for you - if
    you can find someone else whose got one!
    
    				bs