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885.1 | Sounds kinda unconventional to me ... | MPGS::BAILEY | May the 4 winds blow u safely home | Wed Jul 06 1988 14:29 | 23 |
| Hi Ed,
I sail on a J/36, which is also a fractional rig with jumper struts.
The chute halyard on our boat is at the fractional point, entering the
mast just above the forestay. This is the only way I've ever noticed a
chute rigged on a fractional rig boat.
We also have an empty slot at the top of the mast where you can put a
block for a halyard. But nobody has ever figured out why it's there or
what you would want to use it for?
Question, do you HAVE a chute, or are you just thinking about getting
one? If the boat's never had a chute then there's a chance the block's
there for some other reason altogether. If you do have a chute then it
should be fairly obvious just by raising it whether it belongs there or
not.
I'd recommend calling a local sailmaker. Don't know anything about Sea
Sprites myself, but I'd be willing to bet they'd be able to answer your
questions or find specs on your particular sails and rigging.
... Bob
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885.2 | | MILVAX::HO | | Wed Jul 06 1988 18:51 | 15 |
| I have seen masthead mounted spinnaker halyards but not often.
Some of the French ocean racing catamarans are setup that way.
In light air may be advantageous to fly the chute from the masthead
if you're running. The backstay will probably hold the mast up.
But if the wind builds or shifts to a reach, be prepared to douse
in a hurry. It all depends on the structure of the top of the mast.
If it's untapered with substantial jumpers shrouds, it may be possible
to regularly fly the chute from the top.
I believe the company that builds the Sea Sprites is still in business.
A call or letter to them might clarify the situation.
- gene ho
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885.3 | oen use for a spare block | MILVAX::HO | | Wed Jul 06 1988 19:09 | 19 |
| Whoops. .2 refers to masthead spinnaker halyards on fraction rigged
boats.
I have a fractional rig with an "extra" block at the masthead.
It's not for flying chutes though. I have a thin messanger line
reeved through it. It occassionaly gets used to fly pennants but
its real use is to provide a second "emergency" halyard to the
masthead. If the main halyard jumps its sheeve or my tempermental
halyard lock gets stuck in the locked position, I have no way of
getting to the top to fix things. The next highest halyard is for
the spinnaker and that's a good ten feet below. Let me tell you,
shimmying that last ten feet with a sail flapping in your face and
no belay truly stinks.
The idea is to reeve a spare line through the block using the
messanger. One end of this gets lead to a winch and the other end
gets tied to a "volunteer". It's still no fun but it sure beats
the old method.
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885.4 | 2 cents, if it's worth that. | ASIC::SAMPSON | Driven by the wind | Fri Jul 08 1988 14:16 | 9 |
| If it's worth anything to you, my spinnaker halyard goes into
the mast just above the forstay. The boat is a 470, that's 15.5
feet. I don't know how this realtes to a cruiser size boat, but
it goes in at just above the stay. I've never flown it, but I'll
try someday.
Geoff
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885.5 | Survey. | AYOU17::NAYLOR | Purring on all 12 cylinders | Mon Jul 11 1988 05:02 | 12 |
| Took a special look through the glasses this weekend after reading
this note last week and the results? ALL the fractional rig boats
flew their spinnakers just above the forestay and ALL the masthead
rigs flew them from the masthead (sample of about 50 yachts in
local race).
My own fractional rig flies it from just above the forestay, but
I get just as much power from an oversize Genny so only fly it to
keep my hand in.
Brian
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885.6 | Many thanks!! | CASV05::THOMAS_E | | Mon Jul 11 1988 11:14 | 7 |
| Thank you all for the inputs. We'll try the spinnaker out this weekend
given less than boisterous conditions. THis past weekend was spent
on the New England highways distributing kids to grandparents and Scout
camp. AAARRRGGGHH!
Ed
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885.7 | There are NO extra blocks at the masthead. | CASV01::THOMAS_E | | Tue Aug 02 1988 12:09 | 17 |
| Next year that "extra" block at the masthead will have a messenger
line run through it!!!
This last weekend's sailing schedule was severely impacted by problems
with main halyard. Yours truly provided club members on the porch
with much conversational grist with his attempts (succesful
finally!!!!) to get to the top of the @#$^%@$%^@$%^$%^ mast to
retrieve the halyard. While Mr Ho did provide an accurate description
of what it's like getting to the top of the mast (.3) he did not comment
on what it's like to be at the top of a floating metronome. The best
thing that can be said about spending time at the masthead is that it
is definitely a character-building experience!
Take heed you fractional-riggers out there!!!
Ed
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885.8 | Sympathies and Alternatives | NBC::CARVER | John J. Carver | Tue Aug 02 1988 12:58 | 16 |
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Re: 885.7
Once or twice a season I mentally thank the previous owner of
my boat for having had permanent mast steps installed. It makes
the "character building" process of going aloft a little easier
to stomach.
HOWEVER, the rest of the season I curse the stupidity of leaving
the steps in because they do nothing but foul my halyards !
I guess you can't win for losing ! (My sympathies to you Ed !)
JC
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