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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

853.0. "outboard won't run" by MILVAX::HO () Tue May 31 1988 13:01

    I have a one horsepower Evinrude "Junior" outboard which refuses
    to run.  At the end of last year I ran it until all the gas was
    used up and stored it over the winter without any special preparation.
    
    When I tried to start it up this past weekend - nothing.  A passerby
    suggested pulling the spark plug and cleaning it off.  After doing
    that I tried staring the motor with the plug connected to the wire
    and plug out of the motor but touching the block.  A healthy spark
    appeared with each pull.  The ignition system looks OK.
    
    Looking down the carburetor intake revealed no obvious air obstruction.
    When I removed the carburetor, gas spilled out of the bowl and there
    didn't seem to be and obstruction in the jets or the ports to the
    combustion chamber.  Everything looked clean.
    
    When reassembled it started only after many pulls and kept stalling
    out after running fitfully for a few minutes.
    
    The next suggestion was bad gas.  This may be true.  I used last
    years gas.  But it's been working fine in my lawn mower and chain
    saw and it looks OK - no obvious sediment or gum.  
    
    Any suggestions on what to do next.

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853.1carb cleanerCURIE::DONOHUETue May 31 1988 13:467
    Try cleaining the carb jet and float needle.  Someone at my yacht
    club had a similar problem.  A little solvent sprayed on these parts
    did the trick.
    
         John
    

853.2it was a dirty jetMILVAX::HOThu Jun 02 1988 10:026
    A second disassembly of the carburetor revealed a small buildup
    of a mineral precipitate surrounding the needle valve at the base
    of the main carburetor jet.  Backing out the valve, scraping with
    a needle, and a shot of carb cleaner solved the problem.  Started
    up on the first pull afterwards.

853.3...and another problem...HAVOC::GREENMon Jun 06 1988 13:0720
    Similar issue......?
    
    My Evinrude has developed a nasty tendency to suddenly lose power 
    temporarily (skipping but not dying out) while running as a steady 
    middling setting.  increasing the gas flow will bring it back to full 
    power but the problem will reoccur.  We are using fresh gas, but
    I have never disassembled the carburator to inspect it (lable that
    as fear of screwing something up that I cannot repair).
    
    Also, to further demonstrate nonfamiliarity with the beast, how
    much blue smoke from the exhaust is normal or a sign of bigger
    problems.
    
    Looking for advise.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ron
    

853.4Too Much Oil?USMRM1::GFALVELLAGeorgeMon Jun 06 1988 13:512
    You might recheck your oil/gas ratio.

853.5water in the tank?TLE::PEARLLarry Pearl (TLE::PEARL) DTN: 381-2254Mon Jun 06 1988 14:0221
Possibly water in the tank?  This might cause the problem you describe.
Otherwise sounds like you might have some gunk on the float valve 
causing it to stick.

My old Johnson (3 hp) refused to run without the choke part way out
yesterday at launching although I thought it ran fine in my backyard
a few weeks ago after I replaced plugs, points, water pump..  I
suspect some gum deposits and  am going to try a dose of carb
cleaner and see if that fixes it.  If not guess I'll have to 
disassemble the carb for a closer look.  The smaller motors are
fairly simple although a good service manual helps identify the
components and builds confidence.

Need a tuneup?  Bluish (dark) smoke is supposed to be unburned gas while
whitish smoke is supposed to be oil.  Newer Johnson outboard motors use 
something like a 100:1 gas/oil ratio while the older ones used 25:1 or 16:1 
and were a lot smokier.

larry


853.6Clean the spark plugs regularly tooAYOU17::NAYLORPurring on all 12 cylindersTue Jun 07 1988 06:072
    

853.7a little Gumout and a blast of air...TLE::PEARLLarry Pearl (TLE::PEARL) DTN: 381-2254Tue Jun 07 1988 13:1711
A dose of carb cleaner in the tank didn't help but I fixed it
without dismanting the carburetor either...I stripped it down and
removed the plug in the bowl and the low speed needle valve and
sprayed a little Gumout and a blast of compressed air through  both
these openings (after removing  motor from boat, of course!) and
that cleared things out.

Perhaps I'll get another year out of the 'ol motor afterall! 

larry

853.8I'd rather not have to paddle against the tide!FDCV06::DARROWFree mooring in LexingtonThu Apr 27 1989 17:3128
        I have read this note in addition to 516.* and 853.* and I would
        appreciate any info regarding 4-6hp OB's with battery charging
        capability.
        
        I have a 17 foot 'weekender' (basically a day sailer with a 
        small camping cabin. The boat weighs approx 800 lbs. and has an
        outboard mounting pad on the port side of the transom. The only
        problem is that this requires a 25inch long shaft and the boat is
        equipped with a British Seagull Silver Century 4hp, probably for
        just that reason, but it has neither reverse nor charging
        capabilities. (Starting in '79 Seagull did offer the charging
        option when they went to CDI.
        
        I have been looking at the Yamaha and Johnson 6hp long shaft. (At
        Monahan's in Hingham.) Both are twins, and have charging (either
        standard or optional).  But both would require the use of an
        outboard bracket. An unused fixed bracket came with the boat but
        I would consider a swing-up type if informed that it would be
        better. 
        
        Thanks for any and all help and recommendations on dealers.
        
        Fred
        223-3935 
       
       

853.9Single handed 'noting'FDCV06::DARROWFree mooring in LexingtonThu Apr 27 1989 17:444
        .8 should have referred to notes 338 and 516.