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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

832.0. "How do tie rods work?" by MPGS::KTISTAKIS (Mike K.) Wed May 11 1988 09:18

    On some boats with keel stepped masts I have seen a rod aft of the mast
    which I was told is a "tie rod" and counteracts the compressive forces
    to the hull from the rigging thus making the hull less accessible to
    fatigue and stress.
    Fine. But how that skinny rod does it? Is it the equivelent of the com-
    pression post on a deck stepped mast boat and if it is such a good idea
    as I was told how come it is not a standard equipment on all keel
    stepped boats,like let's say the air cowls,it doesn't seem to cost
    much more than that.

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832.1GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkWed May 11 1988 14:5011
    My boat has one of these.  It is physically connected from a spot
    about 18" below deck level on the front of the mast, to the mast
    collar.  It appears to pull the deck in a downward direction. I
    would guess it either compensates some for the forces from the standing
    rig load which would pull the hull sides together and squeeze the
    bulkhead, or it is intended to keep the mast collar from pulling
    up when one attaches halyard turning blocks to the collar for those
    who use halyards fed to the cockpit.
    
    Walt

832.2Help for the mast partners?SPCTRM::BURRTue May 17 1988 18:4622
    I am certainly no expert on this but I think that tie rods (which
    are mounted as described) are intended to keep the mast parteners
    (i.e. the heavy deck beams which surround the opening for the mast
    in the deck or coachroof) from bowing upwards from the LATERAL forces
    of the mast loads.  needless to say, if these beams deform, major
    stresses are added to the shrouds, hull-deck joint and the mast
    itself while allowing the mast to attack the step at an angle. 
    This, in turn, would potentially cause more lateral loading of the
    keel, another not so great thing as this would be a force opposite
    that of the external, water/weight lateral forces which the keel
    is designed to take.  
    
    The structure which is designed to distribute the compression loads
    (downward forces) from the mast step to the keel and hull is the
    step itself.  In properly designed wooden boats there is often a
    'web' wherein the step transfers its loads not to a point on the
    keel, but to six or more floors which are attached to the keel
    as well as the frames of the boat and often to the ends of the
    chainplates.  A tie rod would only transfer these compressions loads
    to the deck beams or coachroof; structures which are inherently far
    less strong than the keel.                

832.3Alternative explanationEXPERT::SPENCERJohn SpencerMon May 23 1988 13:3722
Allow me to step into the mud, too:

If you think of a cross-section of mast/hull/deck/standing rigging/tierod 
as a system, perhaps you can see how the shrouds pull up against the 
mast's compression -- down at the base on the keel.  If you removed the
deck & tierod from the system, the hull would merely fold a little and the
rigging would slacken.  

To counter that, one could add a straight beam athwartship between
hull/shroud connections P&S.  (Look at many small dinghies which do just
that -- a Thistle or Highlander are excellent examples.)  However, in
bigger boats, since people like to live in them, as well as for several
other very good reasons, decks are crowned and cabin tops often are, too. 
Now the system has somewhat more resistance to the rigging loads, but
still can tend to bow the deck/cabintop upwards in the direction of and
beyond the designed curvature, thereby slackening the rigging.

Now add that tierod, and you see what is to be gained:  The deck is kept 
from lifting, thus keeping the rigging tighter and marketable headroom maxed.

J.