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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
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Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
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827.0. "Where to steam small frames?" by MERIDN::GERMAIN (Down to the Sea in Ships) Mon May 09 1988 12:29

    I have to replace 5 frames in my wooden boat (3 port, 2 starboard,
    all ahead of the main bulkhead - the front 1/3 of the boat.)
    
    My question is:
    
     Are there places which have steam boxes that you can shove a few
    sticks in? I can make one myself, but I would raher not spend the
    time.
    
     The stock would be 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" x 3 feet (max), so it doesn't
    have to be an enormous steambox.
    
     If I have to steam them up myself, how much steam do I have to
    generate? I know it needs to be a continuous feed of steam, but
    for such small stock, would a large kettle on the stove do it? Or
    do you need a large amount of steam?
    
    		Thanks,
    
    		Gregg

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827.1Steam you own???BPOV09::TMOOREWed May 11 1988 13:4725
    Many years ago my dad built a wooden sail boat of 23'.  He steamed
    his own ribs/frame.  As the framing up of the boat was many, many
    many years ago, the technical infomation may not be accurate.
    
    First the frame was oak.  Next he took a hot water heater and cut
    an opening in the top larger than the diameter of the rib.  Next
    he raised the tank on a 45 degree angle.  He put in some water (I
    would guess about one gallon) and built a wood fire under the lower
    end.  When the water was boiling he put the wooden rib in.  He next
    experimented with length of stay/steaming to get the desired bend
    without breaking.  Once he had the time down he pumped out enough
    in a short time to accomplish the task.
    
    If I remember correctly the size of the frame was about 3/4 in thick,
    by 1 1/2 inch wide by 3 feet long.
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Good luck,
    
    Tom
    
    PS:  Have you contacted any local boat yards?
    

827.2Steaming is EASY!3D::GINGERWed May 11 1988 18:2828
    .1 describes bOILING, not steaming. Boiling works well, but tends
    to discolor the wood, particualry oak. Ive steamed dozens of frames
    into boats using a 5 gal metal bucket (it originally contained driveway
    sealer) with a rubber hose leading into a wood box nailed together
    of 4 pieces of 1x6 pine. The bucket sits on top of my Coleman camping
    stove. Ive always steamed for 1 hour per inch of thickness. Thats
    one hour in good hot rolling steam, not one hour after you light
    the fire. Canoe ribs take about 20 min of steam. Once you get started
    it goes very fast, my box holds about 6 ribs,I put one in every
    5 minutes, then 30 mminutes later take one out drop it in the boat,
    and add one piece of stock to the box. An entire 17 ft boat can
    be framed in a day.
    
    When Ive had to steam big things, the 2x10 oak keel of a wherry
    or the 1x6 by 16 feet ash coaming of my launch, I rent a kerosene
    powered wall paper steamer. Forget the electric steamers, they dont
    make nearly enough steam. For long objects where I dont want to
    build a big box (handrail on my circular stair) I just wrap the
    stock and the steam hose up with several layers of old tarp.

    If you are anywhere near Framingham you are welcome to borrow my
    steam box and boiler, but I suspect you can knock one together in
    less than an hour.
    
    One last note- I was really worried about steaming the first time
    I tried it- I put off a job for a couple years, worrying about how
    it would work. Once I tried it, its a real snap.

827.3Try Mystic SeaportTALLIS::RICKARDThu May 12 1988 10:157
    Last night on evening magazine they showed a boat builder in the
    Mystic area steaming planks for a small craft under construction.
    I failed to catch the name of the builder but perhaps contacting
    Mystic Seaport would help locate a builder of wooden boats.
    
    Pam