| Title: | SAILING |
| Notice: | Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference |
| Moderator: | UNIFIX::BERENS |
| Created: | Wed Jul 01 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Jun 02 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 2299 |
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For those of you who are about to document your vessel or at least
your considering the option...my recent voyage down the dark hall-
ways of the United States Coast Guard Documentation Office may be
of some interest.
The first rumor I can shoot down is that you need professional help.
If you are patient, capable of filing out a few forms, and you've
got 50 bucks in your pocket, the job is a cinch.
You'll need to contact the USCG Documentation Office at 447 Commercial
St. Boston and requests your forms. They mail them out promptly
and most have instructions regarding the required responses. You'll
need a bill of sale, marking certificate, certificate of citizenship,
and application for documentation.
Once you've completed the forms and your bill of sale is properly
notarized, I strongly recommend that you hand carry your paperwork
into the CG office. If there are any mistakes of omissions, you
can save yourself considerable grief by reviewing your papers with
one of the clerks.
And now for the bad news....the Documentation Office is currently
working on December 87's submissions....sooo, get in line and expect
to wait 2-3months for the return of your official numbers. The
USCG will no longer issue any temporary numbers so you'll have to
do the bureacratic shuffle down to the USCG office on Northern Ave.
and spend $6 for your MA or NH numbers to tide you over until you
hear from the Documentation Office. When your "doc" numbers come
in, you'll have to complete a blue form (Can You Believe It!!!!)
and surrender your state numbers.
It's really not as bad as it sounds, I got through it in time to
make the lunch time call at Jimbo's and you can probably use a drink
after you see how their spending your money!
One last note...if your documenting a previously owned vessel, do
get a lawyer to research the title for you. If it's not clean,
you might never come back from Boston !!!
Bob Thuet
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| 793.1 | why document with USCG | SRFSUP::PAPA | Thu Apr 14 1988 11:33 | 8 | |
-> One from the Pacific <-
Could someone please explain the advantages of vessel documentation
through the United States Coast Gaurd.
thanks,
John
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| 793.2 | some advantages | LAVXC2::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu Apr 14 1988 11:43 | 16 |
Well, documentation: Avoids state registration -- no ugly numbers on your bow -- and annual renewal is (currently) free. I have no desire to contribute any more of my wealth than necessary to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Supposedly establishes clear title (ownership) to the boat. Some states (Massachusetts may be one of them) do not title boats, so that legal ownership of an undocumented boat may be questionable. Means that you are an United States vessel, which may make entering/leaving foreign countries easier, and the foreign government is less likely to question your ownership of the vessel. The documentation paper is a somewhat impressive document. | |||||
| 793.3 | Must be Registered in Connecticut | MERIDN::PASCUCCI | Thu Apr 14 1988 12:16 | 17 | |
Documentation does not avoid registration in the state of Connecticut.
Ct removed the "property" tax on boats several years ago but aranged
new and much more expensive boat registrations. To regain the lost
revenue from taxes the ruling is if in Connecticut waters for 30
or 60 days (I forgot which) you must have a Connecticut Registration
(currently $150.00 for a 32 foot boat. If the vessel is documented
you will not receive or have to display the state number on the
bow but you must have the registration (date) sticker on the bow.
The date sticker is a different color for a documented boat vs
a CT. numbered boat.
Being that Ct. does not Title boats most banks, if your financing,
require Federal Documentation. Beside not having to display a number
on the bow the only advantage in this state for documentation is
you might be able to get your loan.
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| 793.4 | Besides, lenders sometimes require it... | BMT::SAPIENZA | Knowledge applied is wisdom gained. | Thu Apr 14 1988 12:17 | 2 |
| 793.5 | Self documentation not allowed by Bank | MERIDN::PASCUCCI | Thu Apr 14 1988 12:26 | 8 | |
Sorry, I forgot to add this in the last reply, but my bank, Maryland
National, would not allow me to process my own documentation. By
using a Documetation service, at the closing, I was required to
pay the documentation service company to complete the document which
proved to the bank that it would be completed. I guess they don't
trust individuals will continue the effort if something goes wrong once
the financing is completed.
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