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Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

769.0. "Help Buying Inflatable Dinghy" by CRANEE::BATTAGLIA_RU () Fri Mar 18 1988 10:44

    I AM LOOKING TO BUY A INFLATABLE RUBBER RAFT. I AM REALLY LOOKING
    TO USE IT FOR FISHING.SO I PLAN ON PUTTING ON A 10 OR 15 HP MOTOR
    ON IT.I HOPE THIS IS RIGHT NOTES FILE TO BE IN.I HAVE LOOK AT THE
    ACHILLES AND THE ZODIAC.I WOULD APPERICATE ANY ADVISE ANY OF YOU
    COULD GIVE ME AS FAR AS WHAT IS GOOD PRICE OR WHICH IS THE BETTER
    OF THE TWO OR MAYBE ANOTHER SUGGESTION.I WILL BE LOOOKING FOR YOUR
    ADVISE.
    
    THANKS
    RUSS
    

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769.1See Practical SailorECADSR::FINNERTYSat Mar 19 1988 16:1142
    
    The latest issue of Practical Sailor has a report on inflatables
    which you ought to read (actually the 2 issues ending 15-Mar-88).
    
    I'll list their recommendations, although the article itself
    deserves to be read:
    
    Recommendations:
    
    If you plan to row more than using a motor, choose an
    inflatable dinghy because of its light weight.  It's really a
    toss-up whether you go with an Avon or an Achilles.  We'd
    lean toward the Avon because of a higher resale value and a
    better warranty service record.
    
    If, like most inflatable owners, you plan to motor the boat,
    we'd go with a tender for its hard transom.  You're faced
    with the same toss-up between the Avon and the Achilles, but
    an even better choice might be the Metzler.  With its inflatable
    floor, the Metzler will be more convenient for sailors who prefer
    to stow rather than tow when cruising.  When Zodiac adopts this
    feature, their tenders may become a worthwhile buy.
    
    If you plan to stow your inflatable only on rare occasions,
    consider a sportdinghy.  It will perform much better under
    power; most can carry a big enough motor to plane.  Sportdinghies
    are becoming more and more common in popular anchorages.  Again,
    you couldn't go wrong with either Avon or Achilles, but if you're
    teetering on the fence, we'd come down in Avon's yard.
    
    
    PS also mentions that Avons are "commonly discounted only 25% by
    mail order outlets, compared to 30% for Achilles", and have
    similar retail prices.
    
    The West Marine catalog I just got in the mail discounts Avon
    inflatables slightly less than 20%.  Does anyone know where to
    do any better than this?
    
      - Jim
    

769.2That card that always falls out!BOARDS::CASWELLMon Mar 21 1988 06:137
    
         Could someone out there please send me a subscription form
    from their latest issue of "Practical Sailor". It sounds like a
    good and informative mag. Send it to CHM-1/E1. Thanks
    
                                               Randy Caswell

769.3see Note 124LAVXC2::BERENSAlan BerensMon Mar 21 1988 09:003
See Note 124 and replies for a discussion of inflatable dinghies.


769.4Look at MetzlerSSVAX2::SAVIERSThu Mar 31 1988 22:2739
    I've owned an Achilles DT4, used a Avon Redseal(?) a fair amount,
    and now own a Metzler.
    
    The DT4 was a good, inexpensive at the time (yen@ 200/$), but could
    barely carry 4 adults.  The other problem is the plywood floorboards.
    They increase capacity and stability siginificantly, but I could
    never figure out how to store them on my sailboat.  I used a 2 hp
    Evinrude, which is slow, although fast enough to get everybody wet
    except in a dead calm.
    
    The AVON Redseal (I think name is correct) is basically their small
    soft bottom size with oversize tubes.  It WILL handle 4 adults much
    better than the DT4.  b.t.w. a 2 hp Suzuki outs out about 50% more
    than a 2 hp Evinrude and pushes this 'raft' along nicely.  But,
    still have those plywood floorboards if you really want to load
    it up.
    
    I wouldn't bother to try rowing either of these in a 15  + knot
    breeze.  Pray for a lee shore!
    
    We settled on the biggest Metzler with inflatable floor as the current
    on board dingy.  I think it is the 'Maya' model, about 13 feet long.
    An Evinrue 8 hp is the  powerplant.  Overall, when deflated, it's
    not much larger than the Avon or Achilles and there are NO plywood
    floorboards.  Footing is as good as a hard floor and the 'bilge'
    water doesn't end up running into your shoe as it does on the soft
    floor when not using plywood floorboards.  It easily carries 4 people
    -almost as good as my 13' Whaler.  The 8 hp engine is enough to
    get up on a plane with two 190# adults aboard, probably 15+ knots.
    It has REAL oars and rows ok, tho there is no way to brace my feet.
    The performance is lots of fun in a 1 to 2 foot chop.  Metzler uses
    a giant bicycle like double acting pump for inflation which is as
    speedy but more tiring than the foot pumps.  One nice feature is
    a pressure gauge.
    
    With the yen so strong the Metzler price premium may be more
    reasonable.  Have fun!
    

769.5Transom Considerations!!TUNER::THUETWed Apr 13 1988 16:5219
    A good deal on Achilles can be had at Winnepesauke Sailing Center
    in Guilford.  See Dave Cooper.  Strongly recommend you spend the
    extra $75-$90 for the fiberglass transom which is impervious to
    rot and will comfortably support larger engines.
    
    I've owned an Achilles SPD-4AD for 2 years and consider it to be
    the cats-meow!!  We live on Great Bay (Durham NH) where it receives
    heavy use as a runabout.  I have no reservations about running the
    river to Portsmouth or Little Harbour.  When used as a tender for
    our 32' ketch, NORTH WIND, it serves well, carries heavy loads,
    and tows great with it's bow snugged up tight.  We use a 8hp
    Mercury for a powerplant and have achieved a plane with about
    500 lbs. onboard.  
    
    I'll buy another Achilles....if this one ever wears out!!!
    
    Bob Thuet
    

769.6WSCSMURF::ROBINSONWed Apr 13 1988 17:155
    
    There are a lot of good things you can say about Dave Cooper and
    WSC, too.  And no, I have no fiduciary interests in the place,
    aside from giving them large sums of money every so often.

769.7Rigid Inflatable Boats. Worth the $$$ ??UCXAXP::VLCEKJoe Vlcek DTN:226.5967Mon Oct 14 1996 18:0829
769.8Never seen claw holes in an inflatableWRKSYS::SCHUMANNMon Oct 14 1996 21:5714
769.9many tradeoffsUNIFIX::BERENSAlan BerensTue Oct 15 1996 15:4830
769.10OUTPOS::EKLOFWaltzing with BearsTue Oct 15 1996 17:4711
769.11No easy answer, but you knew thatDELNI::CARTERTue Oct 15 1996 18:3246
769.12QE004::KALINOWSKITue Oct 15 1996 20:2422
769.13Just gotta put in my two cents worthDECC::CLAFLINDoug Claflin dtn 381-6355Wed Oct 16 1996 09:4540
769.14no one answerUNIFIX::BERENSAlan BerensWed Oct 16 1996 14:5130
769.15CHEFS::THATCHER_DCap'n DelboyFri Oct 18 1996 05:0733
769.16Thanks for all the input.UCXAXP::VLCEKJoe Vlcek DTN:226.5967Mon Oct 21 1996 15:2715