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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

720.0. "Great Lakes vs Ocean Sailing" by USFHSL::SCHESKY () Sat Jan 02 1988 23:36

    Being a Great Lakes sailor for the last 7 years, but having no Ocean
    sailing experience, I am curious about comparing sailing in these
    two different environments.  I am most interested in the wind and
    weather aspects; I know there are equipment protection issues in
    salt water that don't exist in fresh.
    
    Any "transplants" out there that have any comments?
    
    CS 

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720.13D::GINGERMon Jan 04 1988 22:2328
    I sailed the Great Lakes for 12 years, in boats from 12' Tech dinghys
    to an 84' gaff topsail yawl. Raced a 40' Concordia to Mackinaw many
    years. Then DEC thought I should be in Maynard so I moved here in
    1972 and have now had about 14 years on salt. 
    
    When you are 30-40 miles off shore, with a fetch of 100 or more
    miles to the north (like the lower end of Lake Huron) it doesnt
    matter whether the water is Salt or Fresh, waves and wind can be
    the same. I often find New Englanders dont realize the State of
    Massachusetts could be an ISLAND in some of the lakes. 
    
    Most of my sailing was out of Detroit, so I learned about river
    current early. (and even there I hated outboards on my sailboats,
    but thats another note...) On th eOceam there is a new variable
    in current direction that takes a bit of getting used to. Also of
    course the idea that a lot of water goes away evey 6 hours- that
    would have saved me a LOT of yard bills on the Lakes for the quick
    haul out for minor repairs.
    
    The northern reaches of Georgian Bay are almost exactly like the
    coast of Maine, except you can drink the water over the side in
    Georgian Bay.
    
    Id like to sail again on the Lakes, they hold lots of wonderful memories
    for me, but you couldnt drag me out fo New England to return to
    Detroit!
    

720.2Time WarpDELNI::FACHONTue Jan 05 1988 11:0419
    I had the pleasure of cruising for a long weekend last summer 
    on Lake Ontario -- out of Sodus.  I guess Ontario was fairly 
    polluted not too many years ago, but it seems very clean now.
    You can see the bottom through a good two fathoms, and they catch
    tremendous -- big -- trout!
    
    At any rate, that weekend was like stepping back in
    time about 15 years.  Many of the little harbors are sleepy and quaint.
    We also had reciprocal yacht club privaleges, so we could tie
    up at several small clubs and use their facilities for free.
    I'm not sure, but I expect a small fee would get the same for non-members.  
    
    On shore we found pleasant, "home-style" resaurants and pubs, not 
    to mention rolling farm land and quiet country lanes to stroll.
    I look forward to cruising there again -- for at least 2 weeks.
    I'd like to sail to Toronto, and visit a few of the "Thousand 
    Islands."  I've heard they're magnificent.  Anyone have any tips
    or suggested reading on cruising the Lakes?

720.3"Old salt" on Fresh water...FHOOA::SCHESKYThu Jan 07 1988 11:2118
    There is a relatively new (2 years) magazine out exclusively dedicated
    to Great Lakes sailing. It is apprpriately named " GREAT LAKES
    SAILOR".  It has many good article about cruising the Lakes (with
    color photos most of the time) as well as info on racing, tech reports
    etc.  It costs about $14 for 12 mo/ issues and can be subscribed
    to by writing or calling:
                              GREAT LAKES SAILOR
                              5615 W. Cermak Rd.
                              Cicero, IL 60650
    
                              Phone: 216-762-2300
    
    It's as good or better than any other monthly mags I have seen on the
    subject and is dedicated to this subject only.
    
    
    CS                                      

720.4long time gt lakes sailor.HYEND::RSCHLESSFri Feb 19 1988 15:2520
    I've just moved here from Lake Ontario (Rochester).  The cruiising
    from Roch east and north to the throusand Islands is great. Many
    quaint towns ..the Canadian gov't owns many of the 1000 islands
    as camp grounds.  You can either anchor in or tie up.  The fee is
    $3. per night and sometimes includes showers, etc.  In the morning
    the govt comes around to collect the $3.00 and sell donuts.  
    Sometimes it gets pretty busy and you have to raft.  I would
    suggest you find out when the Canadian holidays are and work around
    them.  There are lots of good restaurants onthe Canadian shore
    but we never found any that were great...
    
    Toronto, on the other hand, is fantastic.  You can either tie up
    at the Hilton, or at the Royal; Can Yacht Club (RCYC).  You have
    to be a member of another club, however.. It might be a good idea
    to write ahead.
    
    Good luck!