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624.1 | | DSSDEV::JROBINSON | | Wed Aug 19 1987 13:07 | 8 |
| Buckley appointed himself. But the problem isn't Buckley, it's
the people who give him airplay. Check it out: continuing war in
the Persian Gulf, 25 folks are running for President, airplanes
keep falling from the skies, and mass murders in Cincinati; and
ABC News Nightline features William F. Buckley minding someone else's
business.
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624.2 | Theres a limit, sometimes | NRADM3::MITCHELL | george..ya snooze - ya lose | Wed Aug 19 1987 14:32 | 18 |
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..you know I,kinda had the same impression as Buckley. I think
there are just some limitations some people have whether they're
handicapped or not. To attempt to sail the Atlantic solo is a
tremendous undertaking even non-handicapped. I don't think I'd
try it.
I don't believe Buckley intended to disparage his handicap any
more than I when I say it...of course the media played it up
as they always do.
remember in the last BOC race when, I believe, Roux or Le Roux
was lost at sea (Aug '87 Cruising)...the Sea is not too easy on
man.
___GM___
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624.3 | God and Man at Sea | KELVIN::RPALMER | Half a bubble off plumb | Wed Aug 19 1987 16:04 | 8 |
| Can someone elaborate on .0? I gather WFB mouthed off about the
blind sailor trans atlantic crossing?
=Ralph=
( I stopped reading Atlantic High after two chapters, I couldn't
take his preaching style)
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624.4 | Can we have some data here?! | CASADM::THOMAS | | Wed Aug 19 1987 16:16 | 20 |
| My recollection of the troubles encountered (per the Boston Globe)were
failures of auto-steering, satnav and tangled rigging. My thoughts
at the time, and still are, were that the electronic failures were
probably not cause to stop the attempted crossing but that the tangled
rigging was cause to abort the attempt. the inability to see the
physical state of both standing and running rigging could cost him
his life. I realize he's on a Freedom with as potentially simple
a rig that you can find but apparently lines can still get tangled...
I know Buckley can get preachy but if the report I saw was right
about the tangled rigging then Buckley is expressing a responsible
position in urging that the attempt be aborted.
Can anyone provide specific details about the problems encountered?
thanks,
Ed
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624.5 | | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Wed Aug 19 1987 16:57 | 45 |
| Buckley stated in his syndicated column that Dickson wasnt furthering
the cause for blind people by undertaking a solo Atlantic crossing.
Buckley said it was a stunt. That blind poeple have no business
doing things like this, and in fact used a term like vulgar to describe
the assumption that the blind can appreciate activities like sailing.
What he overlooks is the fact that senses do compensate for loss
or reduction of another. While Jim may not be able to see many things
with his eyes he can see with his more acute hearing, smell, taste
and feel (all over not just as in fingers). Buckley even said it
was vulgar to take a blind person to to something like the Grand
Canyon or a ballet. His underlying assumption here is that if one
cannot see it with eyes there must be so little enjoyment as to
make it a futile exercise.
As I have thought about this, I am now more appreciative of Buckley
raising this. First, I totally disagree with his assumption that
life must be experienced on Wm. F. Buckleys terms or it is not
worth living. But, I probably wouldnt have understand just why
Jim set out in the first place if Buckley hadnt infuriated me
with his column and on Nightline. Also, I know that Dickson's funding
is nearly exhausted, and the exposure will win not only greater
understanding of the prejudice the blind (and other "handicapped")
face, but some additional funds (although Jim asked for none...you
know how giving people are).
Gear problems:
The full picture isnt out as far as I know. From what Jim said,
on Niteline, the main reason he turned for Bermuda was because his
auto-pilot failed. There were some problems, like he was unable to
properly interpret the approaching tropical storm which showed up on his
radar and he thought it represented several ships.
Also, if you have ever taken a close look at a Freedom, you will
find it is not even close to simple, from a running rig standpoint,
like say a Nonesuch. About the only simplification from a typical
sloop's running rig is that there is only one jib sheet. Of course
there are no shrouds, but then not many of us fiddle with them
very often.
Walt
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624.6 | the blind leading the blind | NEXUS::L_BRODEUR | | Wed Aug 19 1987 23:54 | 9 |
| I started watching the show and was so bored I had to shut off the tube.
People like Buckley really make me sick, however he has a right
to express his opinion. Unfortunately I dont agree that it should
be a topic for Nightline. As for Jim, if he's crazy enough to
attempt sailing across the Atlatic, he has every right. I wish
him luck and look forward to reading his story about it.
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624.7 | couldn't hoist sails | MURPHY::SAFDIE | | Thu Aug 20 1987 10:28 | 17 |
| RE .4
From what I read the initial problem was failure of the auto-steering
unit. That prompted the decision to head for Bermuda for repairs
at which point he caught the storm. I read that the boat's designer
went out in a dinghy to guide Dickson into the harbor, jumped aboard
in 12 foot seas and after arriving at the dock proclaimed that the
rigging was so badly tangled that "he couldn't have raised the sails
if he wanted to".
On Preacher Buckley, in all fairness he didn't say Dickson shouldn't
do what he's doing ("it uhhhhh, is after all uhhhhhhh a uhhhhhh
free country") he really is just asking what purpose does it
serve and I think that's justified.
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624.8 | Info gathered at Freedom Rendezvous 8/15 | TALLIS::RICKARD | | Mon Aug 24 1987 09:49 | 42 |
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While at the Freedom Rendezvous last weekend we heard first hand
of the rescue of "Eye Opener", Jim Dickson's Freedom 36 by a
representative from Tillotson-Pearson. The TP rep flew to Bermuda,
contacted Jim and advised him to remain below decks to ride out the storm.
Jim did indeed do this for 48 hours! The TP rep went out to meet
Jim on a pilot boat but with seas of about 20 feet could not get
close enough to jump aboard. A helicopter was hired to air lift
the TP rep aboard but that was also dangerous so he finally got
into an inflatable dingy towed by the pilot boat, timed the waves
and got dumped aboard Eye Opener. Jim Dickson's first remarks were
"Am I glad to see you", to which the TP rep replied "But I thought
you were blind". Anyway, after a couple of days of frustration
and fear on all parts Jim had maintained a sense of humor. I thought
that they then sailed the boat to Bermuda, makes me wonder about
the tangled line comment in previous notes.
As for those tangled lines it is true that the cockpit of a Freedom
can look like a spilled pot of spaghetti at times but after 4 years of
sailing a Freedom I've never encountered sufficient problems to keep me
from raising a sail. All lines are lead aft through stoppers and
it is a simple task to pull up a sail. Lowering one with tangled
lines is another story, however, a kink or knot is certainly not
going to pass through a stopper! Though there is a lot of running
rigging on a Freedom it is still very easy to sail thanks to the
sail plan. Freedom from stays is not what makes it easy, it's the lack
of genoa to haul around and the fact that it is rarely necessary to
leave the cockpit.
I may be mistaken but I think that the talking loran failed and
therefore the link from loran to autopilot went too. The only other
compass Jim had that he could use was a brail wrist compass.
He had difficulty navigating with that but he did get within 20
miles of Bermuda! How many of us can say we've done that alone?
Tillotson-Pearson is very supportive of Jim, surprised at the media
coverage, but is trying to convince him to wait until spring before
trying another crossing; this time of year is just too dangerous.
Pam
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624.9 | Perhaps Buckley needs a periscope | HAVOC::GREEN | | Mon Aug 24 1987 18:11 | 13 |
| I recall the story of a blind skipper sailing solo from San Diego
to Honolulu. Cruising World gave the trip a good deal of coverage
- focussing mainly on the "how to" rather than the "should he or
shouldn't he". Good article, gutsy skipper.
Jim Dickson also got his main point across - and it didn't have
anything to do with sailing, really.
The Nightline interview/debate which I watched with disbelief pointed
out that the saga of the person without
sight (Dickson) will usually differ in its essence for the story
of the person without vision (Buckley)
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624.10 | -< a lot of hot air >- | CTOAVX::GERMAIN | | Mon Nov 09 1987 08:40 | 21 |
| If a blind man or woman wants to sail the Atlantic, let him
or her. You never find the limits of capability by trying to decide
whether or not it can be done, while ashore. You have to get out
there and try it. Maybe he'll die. Maybe it can't be done.
BUT MAYBE IT CAN!!!!!!!!
Whose to say whether there is pleasure in sailing, for a blind
person? Certainly not Buckley! Does it denigrate the art if a blind
person tries to make passage across the Atlantic? I don't see how.
Does it detract from the art if a quadraplegic tries it using his
teeth? No. I see no support for Buckley's position, whatsoever.
But what's all the fuss? Wm. F. gets to have his opinion.
Nightline gets to air what they want.
And all of the real men and women in this world, who know how
to live, don't need to be affected.
Gregg Germain
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