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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:	SAILING
Notice:	Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:	UNIFIX::BERENS

Created:	Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:	Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2299
Total number of notes:	20724

587.0. "Bought a Used Boat!" by NRADM2::MITCHELL (george..ya snooze, ya lose) Tue Jun 30 1987 15:47

    	
    	....well,finally got the War Dept to go for a boat. We finished
    Bert Williams sailing course as a primer..I was hoping she'd like
    it at the end...She did, and 2 hrs later we put a down payment on
    a 27' Columbia. We had looked at about a dozen not including about
    a half dozen New ones. Stan Levy from Marblehead Offshore knew my
    menu and delivered. The boat was listed with Northeast for some
    time and got no action....New  boat dealers are hell bent on putting
    you into New stuff...he only had it a couple of days
    
    ....anyway I let the boss make the decision...lots of nice teak
    inside and magnificently maintained...bettern the 26' C&C we
    missed a while back. Now if she doesn't like it its HER fault :-))
    lots of electronics too,but I'm not sure what it all means. The
    owner was a tinkerer,like me, and has added lots of little features.
    The diesel has only 250 hrs and you could eat out of the engine
    compartment. Cruising spinnaker, 150 roller genoa w/cover, self tailing
    winches and so much other stuff that I don't know what it means.           

    
    The electronics looks like this
    	VHF - unimetric
    	fathometer - seafarer
    	log - seafarer
    	auto pilot - seafarer
    	compass - plastimo bulkhead mount
    	windex
    	Auto direction finder
         
    All kinds of safety equip and extensive anchoring stuff
    
    Dodger, cockpit cushions, cradle(?) & winter cover w/frame, swim
    ladder, extra batteries...the list goes on and on
    
    Ever get the feeling you got a good deal...I sure do at this point.
    The boat is a 1978 sloop w/ 6'1" headroom...I'm 6'4" so I'll be
    doing a lot of crouching.
    
    The owner said a survey is not really needed, but I'll have one
    done anyway...but I believe him, the boat looks like its been in
    a barn.
    
    I'll probably moor in Marblehead and sign on with Marblehead Yacht
    club. I ain't much for social climbing so Eastern & Corinthian are
    out. I would've preferred something in NH (no mass tax) but driving
    time from Merrimack NH to ANY water is an hour.
    
    Looking forward to running into you some of you(figuratively speaking)
    in the area. Present name on boat is "PAGURUS"..That will change
    to suit the captains wife I'm sure.
    
    Anyone got any recommendations or advice for an old jet jockey turned
    into a old salt???
    
    My wife is in charge of small craft warnings, so be nice
    
    				___GM___
    
    I hadn't sailed in 25 years so getting back on track, I figured
    would be a problem...It wasn't...several of the others in the
    class had a lot of sailing experience...they sure didn't show it.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
587.1	GET A SURVEY NOW!	CSSE::GARDINER		`Tue Jun 30 1987 16:56`	10
	Most Insurance Companies won't touch you unless you have recent (less than 6 months) survey. Hull insurance is getting harder to get on older boats. If you find someone, stick with them. It probably would be impossible to get coverage on a 10 year old boat and the amount is governed by the survey. Enjoy, Jeff
587.2	No survey / No deal	NECVAX::RODENHISER		`Tue Jun 30 1987 16:56`	16
	George, This all sounded real good 'til I got to the part where the owner felt that a survey really wasn't necessary. Heh, Heh, Heh! Did he ask you to trust him, too? You gotta survey it to find out if all that gear works. And what about hull/deck delamination, and other hidden trouble spots, etc? A survey is the single most important item you can purchase for a boat this size. John
587.3	Marblehead mooring	PULSAR::BERENS	Alan Berens	`Tue Jun 30 1987 18:14`	14
	As a long time holder of a Marblehead mooring permit, I wonder how you are going to get a Marblehead mooring. The waiting list is, I hear, maybe years long, and the regulations (that are supposedly now being enforced) prohibit the transfer of mooring permits from the seller of a boat to the buyer. If you haven't done so, I'd suggest calling the harbormaster (617-631-2386 0900 to 1300 Monday through Saturday, I think) and discussing the mooring situation with him. Oh yes, the boat on a mooring must be owned by the mooring permit holder, ie, no subleasing. Welcome to the wonderful(?) world of boat ownership. Alan
587.4	Mooring - What Mooring ??	PUNDIT::MCWILLIAMS		`Tue Jun 30 1987 19:03`	24
	I have to second Alan's recommendation. NH has a waiting list of about 10 yrs for Little Harbor, and about 10 yrs for the Portsmouth Yacht club area. I am a NH resident, and Portsmouth would be ideal for me, but no way could I get in. Salem has some rental moorings, call the Barnegat Transportation Company in Salem for info. There also may be mooring permits still available in Salem. The Salem Willows yacht club may still have some opeings. Beverly has a 3-5 yr waiting list, and the Jubilee Yacht Club has a 10 yr waiting list, last time I asked. Newburyport has some rental moorings available, give me a mail message I'll tell you who to call, but you have to love the Merrimac to stay there (always an adventure .....) As Alan said call the harbormasters, they are generally very friendly and helpful, but there's little they can do, if there's no space. /jim
587.5	Marblehead's Harbor Plans	CAMLOT::BLAISDELL		`Wed Jul 01 1987 09:08`	8
	The wait for Marblehead moorings just got longer. A recent SOUNDINGS article said Marblehead has concluded that the harbor is overcrowded, partly caused by boats getting bigger. In any case, the reported solution will be to gradually reduce the number of moorings by awarding only one new permit for every two permits returned. - Bob
587.6	park it, WHERE!!??	NRADM3::MITCHELL	george..ya snooze, ya lose	`Wed Jul 01 1987 11:02`	7
	....sheezze! y'all got me concerned about the mooring thing. It'ld be funny having a boat with no place to put it 'cept in my own yard I better do some dealing quick or the War Dept will be beating up on the Defense Dept ___GM___
587.7	Welcome back	DPDMAI::BEAZLEY		`Thu Jul 02 1987 13:05`	18
	Sounds like you got a good deal on your boat. I went through the same experience last fall. Finally ended up with a 23' Columbia for a good price in excellent condition. The point here is that those looking for a GOOD used boat should take heart. There is hope. There are good boats out there in good shape at a reasonable price but one must be careful and patient. The used boat market is not the place for impulse buyers. A survey and trial period are absolutely essential. Another hurdle is the constant viewing of one shoddy craft after another, usually suffering from neglect rather than abuse. Hope you settle the moorage problem. I don't have that problem down here in Dallas, mine has a good trailer and moorage is fairly abundant(though changing rapidly). Good luck on your renewed endeavor...