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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

474.0. "Hull material/living aboard" by CONRAD::SERACK (Ken Serack) Wed Jan 28 1987 13:45

    
      *	I need info comparing hull construction materials. Advantages,
        disadvantages, cost, reliability, maintenance, etc. Specifically
        for wood, fiberglass, and steel.
    
      * The other question regards living aboard full time. Do any of
        you have experience with the Federal tax codes as far as claiming
        your boat a your first residence? I know you can claim a boat
        as a second home, but I want to live aboard full time and need
        to  know how much I can claim. Do moorage fees count? Can I
        treat the boat just as I would treat a house or even a mobile
        home?
        
    Any real experiences and/or opinions would be welcome.
    
    Ken Serack
    DECwest Engineering
    DECWET::SERACK
    (206) 865-8808
    

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474.1Some info on boat construction - hope it helpsNANOOK::SCOTTLooking towards the sunThu Jan 29 1987 22:5744
    Ken,
    
    In reply to your first question, might I suggest some reading materials
    about boat construction.  Not only do they cover the hull but the
    rest of the boat which is just as important.
    
    For fiberglass boats (FRP):
    "From a Bare Hull" - Ferenc Mate'  is an excellent book which deals
        with how modern FRP type boats are constructed and the various 
        materials and construction techniques. Good reading and presented
        in an interesting way.

    "Fiber Glass Boats - Construction, Repair and Maintenance"
        John Roberts.  As good as the above book but a little drier
        in reading.
    
    For Wood boats -
    "The Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction"  West System.
        Another dry reading but good technical book on the construction
        of wood/epoxy boats.  I'm trying this one on a 12' sailing
        dingy this winter in my wood shop.    If you are thinking
        of building your own hull, my feeling is this is the only
        way to go.  A boat manufacturer, 2 navel architechs and
        a highly respected yacht surveyor have even recommended it
        above both FRP and steel/al hulls.
    
    Two other books you might be interested in for maintenance and whatnot:
    "Shipshape, The art of sailboat maintenance" Ferenc Mate'
    "Upgrading the Cruising Sailboat" - Danial Spurr
    
    Finally, there are a number of good books on living aboard a yacht.
    Try it, you might just find it is a great way of life.  I did for
    as long as I could afford it and still maintain a regular home on
    land.  If I had my choice right now, I'ld still be aboard.

    There are many other books but these are a start.  Your question
    on hull construction could and would fill a notes file rather than
    just a single topic.  Boat construction has become a hobby of mine
    and you'll find it interesting, I'm sure.
    
    Best of luck and hope the sun shines on your sails.
    
    Lee

474.2CASADM::THOMASFri Jan 30 1987 07:434
    I'll second the endorsement on Mate's book.
    
    

474.3CASADM::THOMASFri Jan 30 1987 08:0021
    For a liveaboard I'd think glass would be your best bet. A key factor
    here would be the amount of insulation (foam) you have in the hull to
    keep condensation to a minimum. THis would push you to a foam sandwich
    type construction which I think is stronger than "regular" layup
    anyway. (Can anyone comment on that?) And of course, it's more
    expensive. One possibility is to put your own foam on the inside of the
    hull. Mate has a marvelous section on doing this. Osmotic blistering
    can be a problem with glass but they learning how to prevent it
    by using epoxy outer layers 
     
    
    Wood's drawback is the amount of internal space required for stuctural
    members. Assuming you'll be in the water year round, you should be able
    to avoid the problems we have here in New England caused by the annual
    haulout/dryout process. 
    
    Steel has serious electrolytic problem potential. And, you'd have
    to insulate the hull well.