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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

461.0. "sailing club family member" by VAXWRK::RACEL () Sun Jan 11 1987 14:32

    I'm looking for someone who might be interested in joining up as
    a 'family member' in a sailing club in Boston to sail on Solings.
    
    I've wanted to learn to sail for quite a while, and finally last
    year I drove into Boston once a week and took lessons.  They were
    great fun, and when it was over, I decided to join up into their
    sailing club so that I could do some more sailing next year (without
    buying my own boat).
    
    When I joined, this club allowed groups of up-to-three members to
    join as a 'family unit' even though they weren't related.  I joined
    along with two other people, for the coming season (beginning in
    April) and thought I was set for next year.  Soon after, once of
    my 'family members' called to tell me that he was planning on upgrading
    his membership.  When I asked what would happen to the remaining
    two of us, he said that we would have to get another member.  This
    didn't sound right to me, so I called the office, and was told that
    he had to have the rest of our 'family unit' agree to either upgrade
    with him, pay the difference between a two-member and three-member
    family, or find another third member.  The remaining two of us decided
    that if our parting member found a third member to take his place,
    we would agree to the upgrade, but we didn't want to pay a higher
    membership fee.
    
    I found out later that the upgraded membership did in fact happen.
    When I called to find out how, I was told that our departing member
    said that we had agreed to his leaving, and that we told him we
    were willing to pay the additional fee, or find ourselves a new
    member.  This all happened during a time when I was taking a night
    class, as well as taking various trips for work, and didn't have
    the time (or the presence in town) to keep up on everything.  Since
    the season was over, I didn't worry about it much.
    
    Before April, I'm going to have to get this mess straightened out,
    or else I don't think they will let me and my remainining family
    member take the boats out.  I've probably got three choices:
    
        1.  Hold my ground that we *DID NOT* agree to this member's
            departing, and should remain full members in good standing
            without paying additional dues.
    
        2.  Pay the additional fee and remain a two-member 'family'.
    
        3.  Find a third member to join us for the April-October season.
    
    If anyone is interested in joining up with us, or has any suggestions
    as to where I should take this from here, I would be interested
    in hearing from you.
    
    Peggy

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461.1Gloomier and gloomierEUREKA::REG_BMoutain Man(iac)Mon Jan 12 1987 10:2612
    
    	I would go for option #1.   Your membership agreement shouldn't
    be dependent of what other partners do, you joined as a group and are
    entitled to your membership.  I think the club is treating you very
    badly with this tactic, sounds too much like the health club marketing
    game to me.  Unfortunately you pose a difficult question, it sort of
    sounds a bit like, "we're into something thats not very nice, and the
    only way out is to get someone else in with us." 

    	Reg
    

461.2Good Deal - Bad CommunicationsVAXWRK::RACELMon Jan 12 1987 14:3713
    Don't get me wrong, I don't really think that we got into a bad
    deal.  What I think happened was that our third 'family member'
    told the people at the office that we agreed to his upgrading his
    membership.  Unfortunately, when all this happened, I was on my
    way out of town, and left a few times more during the month (DECUS
    was that month, and I taught a class out of town right before or
    after, don't remember which).  So, if I had gotten all of this
    straightened out when it first happened, it may have been easy.
    Now, the girl who did it all is no longer with them (it was a summer
    job for someone visiting Boston during her summer break).  I was
    just trying to make things easier by replacing the third member,
    rather than dig up old tales.

461.3questionsFDCV17::XXTESTWed Jan 14 1987 14:072
    how often do you sail? what is the cost of a family member 1/3?

461.4DEFINITION AND COST OF FAMILY MEMBERVAXWRK::RACELWed Jan 14 1987 19:2226
    This membership allows you to sailing solings anytime that the club
    is open (seven days a week).  I usually went after work and sailed
    from about 5-7pm.  The hours are about from 10am to sunset.  I hope
    to do a little more on weekends next season, but the 'student
    membership' had more limitations.  They also have soling races once
    a week, and J11 (?) races once a week - both in Boston Harbor.
    Although this is a soling membership, you are able to race and/or 
    crew with either of these.
    
    The only limitation with the family membership is that you agree
    that no two (or more) members of your 'family' have a boat out at
    the same time.  This means that if you and another 'family member'
    both want to sail all day on Saturday, you either compromise, or
    else sail together.  I don't know my other family member exceptionally
    well, but I used to work with his brother, and get along with both
    of them really well, so sailing together would be no problem.  Since
    four can fit (although two or three is more comfortable - we've
    had five on one) then each of the two can bring a guest, or all
    three can sail together.
    
    The cost varies depending upon the number of members in the 'family
    unit'.  For us, it was a total cost of about $350 per person for
    the full season (which begins in April).
    
    Peggy