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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 357.1 | Minor Update | LSMVAX::MEIDELL | | Mon Jul 14 1986 17:36 | 9 |
| Alan, although it's true they went into receivership, it seems that
someone has, or is very close to bailing them out. My "sources"
claim they have ordered some new masts for 38s, 41s, and one 35.
No one seems to know who the white knight is, however.
Lastly, my source told me C&C died because they refused to sacrifice
their quality standards, and so costs got out of hand vs. marketable
price. The new question is what will happen now.
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| 357.2 | | PULSAR::BERENS | Alan Berens | Mon Jul 14 1986 18:11 | 6 |
| I should have more current sources. The magazine article I saw said that
C&C was going to complete any boats whose construction had been begun
prior to going into receivership. Thus the masts ordered could be for
boats such as these. Still and all, not a good situation.
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| 357.3 | Pearson too? | SUMMIT::THOMAS | Ed Thomas | Tue Jul 15 1986 12:59 | 5 |
| I read somwhere several months ago (can't recall where) that Grumman
was looking to unload Pearson and that Bill Shaw was trying to get
the money to buy it. Anyone know anything about that?
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| 357.4 | Who's next? | NECVAX::RODENHISER | | Tue Jul 15 1986 14:09 | 19 |
| I've been puzzling over C&C demise too. Can't really figure out
why unless it's poor management. There's certainly a whole flotilla
of maufacturers out there who deserved this fate long before C&C.
Given my fanaticism towards Sabre I continue to worry why they seem
to be bucking the industry trend. They've had repeated plant
expansions, many new designs (30, 32, 34, 36, 42) in the last three
years, etc. The 34 is sold out until well into next year. The 42
is targeted specifically towards customers who Sabre felt they were
losing to C&C.
I'm not looking forward to the possibility of a bursting of Sabre's
balloon too. Their boats are awful pricey (many would say TOO much
so) and there's a long way to fall if it happens.
John
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| 357.5 | Where was their focus? | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Tue Jul 15 1986 15:30 | 25 |
| Re: .4
I believe companies like Sabre and Tartan have cultivated a different
image and customer base than C&C. The Sabre/Tartan customer expects
a very well built moderate displacement cruising boat of conservative
design. I know that both Tartan and Sabre enjoy a very high percentage
of repeat owners, which says that they have found their nitch. When
we were shopping for a new boat 4 years ago, we looked over the C&C
line and came away confused as to the boats purpose. It was too
expensive to buy for racing and made too many consessions to racers
for our cruising tastes. We still liked the quality and lines, but
felt both Sabre and Tartan were more in line with our tastes for a
cruiser.
Also, the French imports offer boats that seem to have the same
appeal as C&C at lower prices, which may have taken away business.
By the way, I overheard a conversation at the Newport show last
fall between a Sabre owner and the rep. He was complaining that
Sabre was in danger of losing loyal owners because they were ready
to move up to 40' and Sabre offered nothing to move up to (I am
assuming this was a 34 owner). Apparantly Sabre heard the message.
Walt
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| 357.6 | The Scoop on C&C from the Gulf Coast | USAT03::KBURTON | Karen A. Burton\] | Wed Jul 23 1986 00:57 | 18 |
| Did youknow that C&C uses DEC computers in their manufacturing???
Other interesting facts and updates on the C&C story: C&C Yachts
has been purchased by Brian Rose (owner of North South Charters
in Canada and Virgin Islands). The deal will be finalized next
week after union settlement to begin remanufacturing... so all you
C&C fans...take heart! They will continue with all the same models
upgrading interiors with more cruising amenities. Interested in
ordering a new one???
My hobby/husband is a dealer and a TARTAN dealer...
There are quite a few of both flavors in the Gulf Coast area both
racing and cruising.
`Come see us'
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