| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 339.1 | Pilot's License needed? | NANOOK::SCOTT | Lee D. Scott | Thu Jun 19 1986 23:24 | 11 |
| Ben - (And any others concidering)
Take note - The Coast Guard does frown very heavily on boat owners
who do not have their Pilot's License and their boat documented
commercial on taking on passengers for hire! From what I understand
one could possibly loose their boat and get hit with a $10,000.00
fine besides! That is unless I missread the laws. Anyone care to
comment?
The way I understand, one can not even receive a free dinner for
gratutity.
Lee
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| 339.2 | check your papers | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Fri Jun 20 1986 11:16 | 12 |
| I think L�e is co~rect. y seem to r�member reading in Soundingq
a series of articles that indicated that�even "sure( �ome�on out
- yo bring the bee~" could be considered hi~gng to the�'bringee'.
(more important to the courts( lawy�rs and friend tu~ned g~eedx
plaintif).
I know bth my insuranae and chips mortgage forbid any hi~ing(
chartering�o~ other commercial use (in found at fault and in this
situation( the mortfage becomes due in full and the insurance is N/A).
Walt
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| 339.3 | | SUMMIT::THOMAS | Ed Thomas | Fri Jun 20 1986 15:12 | 10 |
| Talk about tacky behavior!!
My interpretation of the preceeding legalese is that the guest is a
"guest" as long as the host does not request the guest to provide any
goods (or services). If the guest offers to provide anything (goods or
services) the host would seem to be off the hoook. Yes? Maybe, unless,
except....
Ed
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| 339.4 | Hitchhikers & Stow-Aways | USAT03::BPLATTER | | Sun Jun 22 1986 19:19 | 7 |
| I appreciate the cautions about chartering without a license.
No harm intended in my query, nor to the friendly skipper who
offered a ride via VAXmail. Therefore I rephrase my question;
Anyone pick-up water-hitchhikers and/or week-end stow-aways? :-)
Ben
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| 339.5 | Might, Maybe, Com'on aboard | NANOOK::SCOTT | Lee D. Scott | Mon Jun 23 1986 00:37 | 22 |
| Ben-
The warning wasn't pointed to you at all but to anyone who might
have offered to charter their boat without the proper whatever...
and wanted to do so prior to anyone responding to your note.
Anyway - I have a boat in Portsmouth Harbor ("New" England) in Kittery
Maine. He's/she's a 37' sloop by Endeavour of which I'm on at this
moment with a Pro 350 in the V-birth. I generally go sailing
when ever I can and wouldn't mind having you (and maybe your wife if
you bring her) for a daysail. Let me know when you'll be up in
this neck of the woods and maybe we can get together if we can make
the connection.
I would have responded via VAX mail but there may be others in the
conference who would like to get together for the day or maybe have
a rondevu (probably misspelled) at the Isles of Shoals.
I'ld continue on but it just struck 7 bells of the first watch and
will get back on to read any comments tomorrow evening during the
second dog watch.
Lee
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| 339.6 | Portsmouth Harbor or Bust | USAT03::BPLATTER | | Mon Jun 23 1986 13:08 | 9 |
| Captain Scott....
Thanks for the friendly invitation! I will send you a mail message
when I get confirmation on my classes. My wife and I went through
Kittery last September on the way to Monhegan Island (via land...,
unfortunately). You are fortunate to live in such a terrific
"neighborhood"! I'll be in contact with you later on. In the meantime
I'll need to brush up on my nautical terms (7 bells of the first
watch??) . . . Ben
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| 339.7 | need crew? | BPOV09::TMOORE | | Mon Jun 23 1986 13:54 | 10 |
| I have a smaller (25') sailboat in Sakonnet Pt. Rhode Island. I
go down (about 100 miles from where I live when not baoting) every
weekend. Let me know when your in town, I'm always looking for
a crew.
Tom
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| 339.8 | Boat + License = You bring beer | CHOPIN::RICKARD | | Tue Jun 24 1986 16:03 | 9 |
| I not only have a 32' Freedom I also have my Coast Guard Captain's
License, so you can bring the beer! I have been introducing my
group to sailing this summer (Mid-Range VAX Engineering) and will
continue to do so throughout the summer. I keep my boat an hour's
sail north of Newport in Naragansett Bay. Let me know when you'll
be around this area.
Pam
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| 339.9 | Thank-you Captain Rickard | USAT03::BPLATTER | | Tue Jun 24 1986 18:54 | 8 |
| Pam... Sounds like a winner! If my class schedule holds, I will
be in Boston the week of July 20th ..or.. the week of August 10th.
Hopefully once I find out the pair of week-ends I'll be in Boston
I can get on your crew list. I'll DECmail my plans in the next
three weeks, hopefully I can fit into your existing plans and not
"rock the boat" :-) . What type of beer do northeastern salty-dogs
prefer?? Ben
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| 339.10 | chartering | PULSAR::BERENS | Alan Berens | Thu Jun 26 1986 13:39 | 20 |
| re .1 and .2:
The solution to the problem being discussed here is fairly simple, I
think. The relatively unskilled sailor does not pay the boat owner to
take him/her sailing. That results in the legal hassles described.
Rather, the relatively unskilled sailor bareboat charters the yacht,
with the charter agreement stipulating that the relatively unskilled
sailor (now the charterer) hire a qualified captain of the charterer's
choice. The captain is then the paid employee of the charterer and the
charterer is legally responsible for the safety of the yacht. Of course,
if the owner happens to have a Coast Guard license, then the charterer
might well hire the owner. It is perfectly legal to bareboat charter a
yacht documented for pleasure use. This also avoids the questions of
insurance and commercial use. Of course, this process can be a mite
expensive for a weekend or day sail -- my insurance company charges a
stiff, fixed surcharge for a charter of eight days or less.
Alan
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