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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

338.0. "Wanted Small Outboard + Tips" by RAINBO::SKIEST () Tue Jun 17 1986 09:48

    Wanted.....
    
    I have a 14' O'day Javelin Daysailer and am looking for a used Outboard
    Motor for it.  If anyone outthere has one for sail please send me
    mail at "SPCTRM' or call me at 226-2274. Also i'm not sure what
    size I shoud use.....   I guess 3 to 6 horse power would be sufficient.
    Any comments....  Will be using the boat in Buzzards Bay and also
    lakes.
    
    
    Al

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338.12 HP works fine57579::MURRAYTue Jun 17 1986 13:467
    I use a 2HP Johnson on my Javelin. Works fine for this size boat,
    but it mostly in a protected cove area. Winds on Buzzards Bay may
    necessitate more omph. My concern was weight, and the 2 HP is
    very light.
    
    Dave

338.23 HP outboard57393::TMOORETue Jun 17 1986 14:1112
    I had a 16 foot daysailer and had a 3HP outboard, sailed it off
    of Rye NH.  The 3hp had plenty of ooomph for the ocean.  The only
    problem with it was no neutral or reverse, so when you start it
    up ---- away you go.  Could be a problem.
    
    
    Good luck,
    Tom
    
    
    

338.33 HPUSMRW6::RNICOLAZZOTue Jun 17 1986 14:519
     I used a 3HP on my Javelin. It worked fine. I believe O'Day says
    not to put more than a 5HP on the boat.
    
     A tip: Place a couple pieces of wood between the engine mount screws
    and the fiberglass. If you don't do this the engine mount screws
    will dig into the fiberglass.
    
      rich

338.4GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkTue Jun 17 1986 14:5319
    On my first daysailer (BlueJay) and more recent tenders I have used
    engines from 1.5 hp up to 10 hp.  For a boat in the 14' range which
    does not plane, 2 hp will get you around when its calm. To move
    against a chop and wind closer to 5 hp becomes desirable.  The main
    thing I remember about small engines is that the Johnson and Evinrude
    one lungers dont run smooth at low RPM. If the operator is using
    the engine to steer, his hand on the steering arm will control the
    vibration, but if the engine is left alone and the boat steered
    by a tiller the little engine will start vibrating back and forth
    which reduces the power into the water and shakes the boat. Anyway
    I prefer a 2 cylinder as a kicker for small sailboats and the one
    lungers on small tenders are fine cause your hand smooths them out.
    
    By the way, other brands of one lunger engines may or may not have
    the same vibration problem, its just that I only have experience
    with the J/E engine.
    
    Walt

338.5Outboard Available!NANOOK::SCOTTLee D. ScottTue Jun 17 1986 19:1712
    I have a Johnson 4.5 outboard with intergral tank which was used
    for two seasons on Lake Sunapee (N.H.) on an O'day daysailer (17').
    this might be concidered the limit in size for the Javalin but one
    should concider max size if you are going on the ocean. (It can
    help keep you out of trouble).  As to why we have the outboard
    and not the boat - the boat was sold and the new owner had an outboard
    already and the new boat we bought had a larger outboard.
    If you are interested, you can contact me via vaxmail "NANOOK::SCOTT"
    or DECmail "NEDVAX::SCOTT"
    Lee
    

338.6Vibration???NANOOK::SCOTTLee D. ScottTue Jun 17 1986 19:238
    After reading Walt's note on Johnson and Evenrude - I didn't find
    and objectionable or unreasonable vibration with the Johnson 4.5
    saildrive.  Maybe Walt had an old vintage Knox Make and Break?
    This engine ran fine and had absolutely no problems and I've not
    heard of any complaints before this about Johnson/Evenrude (There
    one in the same with parts interchangable)
    Lee

338.7Re: .6GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkWed Jun 18 1986 09:2827
    The Johnson I had was a 1.5 hp. I dont know the year built but it
    must have been '75 or earlier.  As I said the real problem was at
    the lower end of the operating RPM range. The engine was smooth
    enough when either wound up or with your hand on the steering lever.
    It was just when operating from idle to about 1/2 throttle with
    hands off that the engine began a side to side oscillation (the
    rubber shaft mounting agravated this) due to either an imbalance
    in the design or an unnoticed problem in this engine (I had it into
    a Johnson dealer 2-3 times for tuneups and asked about this each
    time - they said it was the nature of the one lunger).
    
    The only external differences I can see between that engine and
    the 2 hp Johnson I see today are color (new ones are white, this
    one was dark grey) and the newer ones have recoil starter ropes.
    
    I tried larger engines along the way and found even the smallest
    2 cylinder unit quite smooth (I think this was a 4-4.5 Evinrude
    on a friends boat). 
    
    By the way, I saw a Suzuki (I think it was 6 or 7 hp) on an inflatable
    this past weekend. It was so quiet at low speed I thought it was
    shut off as it approached our boat.  It wasnt much noisier when
    the owner cracked the throttle and left. I am impressed. Anyone
    have one of these ?
    
    Walt