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| 336.1 | | SUMMIT::THOMAS | Ed Thomas | Mon Jun 16 1986 14:15 | 23 |
| Interesting choice of boat.
There are a lot of'em around so you should be able to get a good
deal in a used model.
The CD25 is one of the few (only?) Cape Dory sail models that is not
designed by Alberg. One other would be the centerboard 27' they
introduced a couple years ago. Friend of mine had a CD25 and he hated
it. He moved through the Cape Dory line to a 36 and loved the others. I
recall only one complaint of his - the placement of the jib sheet
leads. He was never happy with the working jib set. I understand that
CD tried several different locations.
25 ft is an interesting size. It's on the big size for a daysailer and
small side for cruising(personal opinion only). No standing head room
and on the large size for an outboard. Make sure you get at least 10
hp. If you're planning on cruising I'd get something a little larger
with an inboard.
Hope no one's offended.
Ed
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| 336.2 | Another opinion of starting in 25' | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Mon Jun 16 1986 14:55 | 19 |
| On the other hand, 25' is the entry point for boats suited to cruising.
We sailed a 25' for several years before 'needing' more space. Our
sailing was (and still is for that matter) mostly weekends in the
summer when the demands on the cabin are minimal. Sure, its nice
to be able to stand up, shower inside, and not have to do the
tab-a-slot-b thing to go from eating to sleeping, but I think our
time on the 25' was well spent. It was also a learning experience
that helped us better pick our current boat to suit us and our sailing
style (as opposed to asking a salesman).
As for the 'Dory, I dont have the slightest idea how they are beyond
their self proclaimed reputation. I do know of a couple people
who own (maybe past tense by now, I lost track of them) SeaSprite
24'rs. They have a similar style (dont know if Alberg had anything
to do with it) to the 'Dorys. The owners were almost rabit admirers
of the line, so maybe its worth checking out.
Walt
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| 336.3 | well constructed | MTBLUE::BELTON_TRAVI | | Tue Jun 17 1986 09:00 | 16 |
| Although I cannnot vouch for the non-Alberg design of the CD25,
I can say a couple of words on Cape Dory's construction,
based on owning a CD22 since 1982. In short, they build an
excellent boat.
They use good materials (teak, bronze) and assemble them with
enough care so that even after a number of years, your boat can
look pretty good (assuming you like to clean and oil teak and
polish bronze).
Speaking of SeaSprites; I believe they were all designed by Luders,
another great one from the Alberg school...or was Alberg from the
Luders school?
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| 336.4 | CD25 -> CD25D -> CD26 | CURIE::DONOHUE | | Tue Jun 17 1986 09:01 | 15 |
| Cape Dory has produced two 25 foot models. The original was a buyout
from another manufacturer, I don't know which one. It is generally
outboard powered and does not have standing headroom. It also has
a reputation of being a so-so performer.
The newer 25 footer is the CD 25D. It came with standing headroom
and an inboard desiel. It had an interesting arangement in that
the forepeak consisted of a head and shower. It is an attractive
boat that should be an ideal cruiser for a couple. This boat is
no longer in production - it was on the pricey side. It has been
replaced in the Cape Dory line-up with the CD26 which is available
with either an inboard or an outboard. It has a traditional interior
layout.
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| 336.5 | Thanks | IKE::HASKELL | | Tue Jun 17 1986 09:30 | 28 |
| Many thanks for all your comments on the CD25.
Yes, I know that the older CD25's do not have standing headroom.
These boats, however do have 5 feet 8 inches of headroom. As my
wife is only 5 feet 4 inches, this should be no problem. I can
always stoop over. I would be sitting , sleeping etc most of the
time in the cabin anyways.
Most CD25 owners use either a 9.9 or 15 hp outboard. This seems
to be adequate.
The CD25 would be my first sail boat. It is very stable, having
1800 lbs in the keel. tThe keel is also full. This of course would
make her a bit slow to respond the the tiller and also it would
not make her a speed freak. But then again, I'm not into racing.
I just think that this would make a good first sail boat for a couple
in their fifties.
My second choice would be a 25 foot Bayfield.
Anyone have any comments on this boat or any other recommendations.
Thanks again.
Paul
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| 336.6 | | SUMMIT::THOMAS | Ed Thomas | Tue Jun 17 1986 10:22 | 22 |
| re the Bayfield
We had a nice chat with a couple on their Bayfield in Nantucket last
summer. They were cruising and in general they liked most things about
theboat with one major exception. She pounds badly going to windward
(rounded bow) and doesn't point well at all. Sailing with everything in
tight the best they could do on tacks was 100-110 degrees difference
between tacks. The condition (everything stowed neatly,etc) of the
boat and their experience seemed to indicate that the source of the
problem was in the boat and not the sailors.
Alberg is the grand old man of the full-keel architects still working
(I think). He's done most of the Cape Dory sail designs and he did
the Sea Sprite 23. Whitby Boat Works, Whitby Ontario, build several
of his designs (30 and 36/7?). Bill Luders is a younger designer
but I don't know if he was a student/protege of Alberg. Luders has
done the Sea Sprite 27,30 and 34.
Ed
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