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Title:SAILING
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Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
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306.0. "No Refrigeration?" by SATIRE::DRUEKE () Thu May 15 1986 17:13

    
    
    3 of us DECies are making passage to Bermuda (actually 4 since two
    oare only going one way) on Jeff Gardiner's Tranquility, a Columbia
    29.  We plan to depart June 20 and expect the round trip to require
    about 3 weeks including a stay in Bermuda.
    
    As part of the planning, I've posted a note in TLE::COOKS asking
    for some ideas on menu planning.  I'd ask that anyone interested
    in contributing some ideas please respond there so everyone gets 
    an idea of what's been said, etc.
                           
    We do plan on taking sufficient staples, etc. to survive in case
    heavy weather prevents the gormet cooking.
    
    Thanks in advance, Ray.
    

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306.1Some practical ideasISWISS::TELSEYSTEVEFri May 16 1986 14:2277
     Having made the trip, here are some assorted observations and
     suggestions:

     	The weather is unpredictable and you may encounter extended 
     	calms, gales, or everything in-between.  Plan for all 
     	eventualities.

     	Personal preference is to avoid greasy stuff until everyone's
     	stomach has settled down.  Bacon and sausage may be fine, but
     	probably not the first or second morning.  I also like poached
     	or soft-boiled eggs rather than fried in the beginning.  Don't
     	limit eggs to breakfast by the way.  Fancy omelets (onions, ham, 
     	mushrooms, green peppers, etc.) make fine dinners, and you can  
     	fix hard-boiled eggs in advance if it looks like the weather is 
     	deteriorating. 

     	Oatmeal, Maltex, etc. can be really welcome if the passage is
        rough and/or cold.  Night temps will be decidedly chilly.
     	Oatmeal is available in individual pouches and flavors if you
     	don't insist on the real thing.

     	Plan around multi-purpose dishes.  For example, cook and freeze
     	a small turkey or large ovenstuffer in two parts.  Heat the
     	first part for dinner; leftovers for lunch.  Repeat towards the
     	end of the trip with the second part.  Ditto a small ham.  Left-
     	overs can go in omelets, Spanish rice, sandwiches, etc.  Frozen
     	hotdogs can be served as hotdogs or you can add canned beans, 
     	fresh onions, cheese, and chili powder.  Let your imagination
     	and personal tastes guide you.

     	Other dishes to consider, since they can be prepared ahead of time
     	and frozen are: Spanish rice, stews (omit potatoes and add at prep
     	time), browned chopped meat-onions-rice, mac and cheese, and chili.
        All can be eaten from deep bowls if things get rough.  

     	For best keeping, freeze dishes as cold as possible before departure.

     	Carry fresh and frozen veggies as snacks and to add to other dishes.
     	Examples are carrots, celery, onions (fresh/frozen), green peppers
     	(fresh/frozen), scallions, cabbage.  Green salads don't keep well.  
     	If you take one along or carry the fixings, enjoy early.  Later on, 
     	substitute cole slaw, potato salad, macaroni salad, three-bean salad, 
     	and the like.

     	Use deli meats cautiously.  I found that bologna, sliced ham, and
     	similar fare didn't last long.  However, they were cold but not frozen.

     	A careful selection of spices and seasonings can make a difference.  
     	Take your favorites.

     	Carry various snacks.  My preferences are fresh fruit (eat bananas 
     	early), nuts, popcorn (if conditions permit popping), and high-energy
     	stuff like hard candy, granola bars, and small bite-size candy bars.
     	Cheese in large chunks can be a nice treat.

     	Also carry lots of liquids both hot and cold.  Even without sun, the 
     	wind can cause dehydration.  Try various flavored teas and cocoa in
     	addition to coffee.  For cold drinks, non-carbonated stuff like lemon
     	and lime ade, cranberry juice, V-8, etc. can provide a change from the
     	fizzies.  A sturdy Thermos (stainless is nice but expensive) or two
     	will allow you to store hot water for the night watch.

     	Have an oversize pot for boiling water and fill only half way.  A
     	pot full to the top with boiling water and spaghetti is inviting
     	disaster.  In fact, all pots should be over-size.  I know cooks
     	that always prepare food fully clothed and wear foul-weather gear
     	while cooking if there are any seas at all.  

     	By all means carry gourmet fare and enjoy when the opportunity
     	presents itself.  
     	
     Hope this provides you with some ideas for your own menu.  Good sailing
     and good eating!

     Steve

306.2stay cool w/ dry iceTILLER::SEARSPaul Sears, Optical Eng., SHR1-4,237-3783Mon May 19 1986 11:1729
    The previos ideas are great. The more preparation the better. 
    
    One thing we have tried a few times that works is to put a couple of
    frozen dishes (beef welington-like stuf) in cardboard milk cartons
    and seal them into coolers with dry ice. The food stays hard as
    a brick and when the dry ice dissappears (about 100 miles n. of kitchen
    shoals) you can cool a few beers down with the defrosting food cartons.
    
    One thing we did learn was not to put dry ice in the main cooler.
    Everything freezes solid.
    
    The weather is definitley fickle. On one return we we had a gale
    in the gulf stream w/ 22' seas followed in 24 hours with being becalmed
    with no ice for the beer. The seas were ok, but the ice situation
    was scarry.
    
    Another time in the marion-bda race, we were wing and wing on a
    43' cat ketch for 4 days before a crystal-clear Nor'wester.
    The real concern then was what wine to have for dinner.
                                           
    Count on the worse and use Constant Vigilence. Also a chart of the
    eastern seaboard can be useful (small scale). Many of the sailing
    magazines have bermuda trip articles starting in the march time-frame.
    I would recomend looking up the past few years' spring issues.
    
    good luck,
    paul.