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Title:SAILING
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Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

266.0. "Brightwork" by 11822::CCHRISTENSEN (Cecile Christensen) Mon Mar 24 1986 09:28

    When people talk about "brightwork" in a discussion about boats,
    are they referring to the chrome or the varnished places?
    
    Chris

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266.1GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkMon Mar 24 1986 10:225
    Generally varnished surfaces, although I think the term applies
    to any surface which is finished more for cosmetics than function.
    
    Walt

266.2Brighter nowMILVAX::SCHUFFELSMon Mar 24 1986 11:1010
    Not to be a smart*** but when I graduated from the Merchant Marine
    Academy "brightwork" was any non-painted metal surface. Such as
    chrome-plated metal, brass, or copper.
    
    Hope this helps. Does this answer give you more or less work to do?
          
    Jack Schuffels
    
    AKA "Captain Hook"

266.3Stirring it up...SUMMIT::THOMASEd ThomasMon Mar 24 1986 11:5212
    This is getting interesting...
    
    re .2 What is/was the term used for varnished surfaces? Is this a case
    of professional/amateur semantic differences, or an archaic usage.??
    Not to imply that you're archaic, Jack.
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266.4Not stirred upMILVAX::SCHUFFELSMon Mar 24 1986 13:5919
    I'll have to look up the term for varnished surfaces, but as I remember
    its something just like that (varnished or oiled surfaces). I'm
    also not aware of difference (professional vs amateur) in marine
    terminology. 
    
    But I will have admit to being in the second half century (52) of
    my life.
    
    Seriously though, when it was your turn to polish the brightwork
    on a ship you better know where to find it (unless you would rather
    clean oily bilges).
    
    Jack 
                   
                         
           
                    
    

266.5whos dictionary is it ?GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkMon Mar 24 1986 14:1217
    
    My time "in the service..." was spent on submarines.  We had no
    varnished surfaces, almost no chrome and brass and no Bosun Mates
    to keep the terminology book.   I know that many terms I heard used
    on Navy ships have little or no bearing to small boats, and many
    only some similarities.   For instance the Ensign on our submarine
    (aside from some wet eared non-quals) was a 13 striped, 50 star
    flag.  "Yachies" are want to call that 13 stripe, anchor-in-the-blue,
    insignia an Ensign.
    
    I also have never ordered "open the main ballast tank vents" on
    our boat and cannot recall hearing the OOD or Diving Officer
    order "Ready About".  So I guess some things just dont transfer
    from military/commercial shipping to yachts without adjustments.
    
    Walt :^}

266.6Scope upMILVAX::SCHUFFELSTue Mar 25 1986 07:1216
    I agree with Walt on terminology similar to what he stated. Military
    sea-going terms are in a class by themselves when it comes to the
    many and varied ships they operate. Of course we dont even refer
    to
    submarines as ships. They are boats. Even though a WW II fleet
    submarine was 320 ft long and displaced 2100 tons. Thats roughly
    equivelent to a Fletcher class destroyer.
    
    But when you come down right to it basic marine term are pretty
    consistant. I'm sure we could start another note just on terminology.
    
    I'll keep my "scope" up and my "hydrophones" on for a continuation
    of this conversation.
    
    Jack

266.7someone elses use of brightworkGRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkTue Mar 25 1986 11:1816
    I was reading the April issue of sail last nite.  There is the usual
    section on spring commissioning.  One piece on maintaining exterior
    varnished surfaces was describing a problem where the "brightwork"
    was discolored and lifted, as a result of improperly sealed or bedded
    woodwork, a few weeks after finishing.  This author (a Maine carpenter)
    was refering specifically to the Varnish itself as brightwork.
    
    I personally avoid this particular one on my boat by, 1) not varnishing
    but oiling exterior woodwork, 2) refering to the woodwork by its
    function - like handrail - or generically - like "I'm going to oil
    the teak", 3) all metal surfaces are either painted, anodized or
    stainless - again I "polish the stainless", and finally - doing
    it myself.
    
    Walt

266.8Showing my ageMILVAX::SCHUFFELSTue Mar 25 1986 14:289
    I guess .3 was right! I'm either using an archaic term or
    Naval/merchant service term. Now I'm really gonna hafta go home
    and dig out some old manuals. 
    
    Stand by (tomorrow) for the official meaning if brightwork.
    
    
       

266.9SavedMILVAX::SCHUFFELSTue Mar 25 1986 14:357
    Just for the helluva it I looked in Webster's 7th Edition and lo
    and behold this is what I found!
    
    brightwork n: polished or plated metalwork
    
    I feel rejuvenated :-}

266.10Just thought you'd like to knowGRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkMon Apr 28 1986 17:4810
    While we were dusting off our small library on the boat this past
    weekend I came across a book that we picked up for my son, called
    The Origin of Nautical Terms.   I remembered this note and looked
    up brightwork.  To paraphrase (since I didnt write the text down):
    
    Any wood finished with a transparant coating....  The term has also
    degenerated in some circles to mean polished metal.
    
    Walt

266.11Reflecting on BrightworkHBO::BILLINGSTue Apr 05 1988 16:069
    Brightwork refers to varnished places, or in the case of some boats
    you see, places that SHOULD be varnished.  It would be interesting
    to learn strict derivation, although it certainly predates chrome.
    One explanation I've heard is that varnished wood would reflect
    light, whereas unvarnished would not.  Does not explain, however,
    why shined brass is NOT brightwork.  Someone else may have more
    to add.
    

266.12LEEL::LINDQUISTTue Jan 04 1994 15:5015
��                     <<< Note 266.6 by MILVAX::SCHUFFELS >>>
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��    I agree with Walt on terminology similar to what he stated. Military
��    sea-going terms are in a class by themselves when it comes to the
��    many and varied ships they operate. Of course we dont even refer
��    to
��    submarines as ships. They are boats. Even though a WW II fleet
��    submarine was 320 ft long and displaced 2100 tons. Thats roughly
��    equivelent to a Fletcher class destroyer.

    Somewhere in this file, there was a good description of boat
    vs. ship.  I've looked, but cannot find it.  Any pointers?

    Thanks.