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266.1 | | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Mon Mar 24 1986 10:22 | 5 |
| Generally varnished surfaces, although I think the term applies
to any surface which is finished more for cosmetics than function.
Walt
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266.2 | Brighter now | MILVAX::SCHUFFELS | | Mon Mar 24 1986 11:10 | 10 |
| Not to be a smart*** but when I graduated from the Merchant Marine
Academy "brightwork" was any non-painted metal surface. Such as
chrome-plated metal, brass, or copper.
Hope this helps. Does this answer give you more or less work to do?
Jack Schuffels
AKA "Captain Hook"
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266.3 | Stirring it up... | SUMMIT::THOMAS | Ed Thomas | Mon Mar 24 1986 11:52 | 12 |
| This is getting interesting...
re .2 What is/was the term used for varnished surfaces? Is this a case
of professional/amateur semantic differences, or an archaic usage.??
Not to imply that you're archaic, Jack.
O O
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Ed,
A 40-pluser
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266.4 | Not stirred up | MILVAX::SCHUFFELS | | Mon Mar 24 1986 13:59 | 19 |
| I'll have to look up the term for varnished surfaces, but as I remember
its something just like that (varnished or oiled surfaces). I'm
also not aware of difference (professional vs amateur) in marine
terminology.
But I will have admit to being in the second half century (52) of
my life.
Seriously though, when it was your turn to polish the brightwork
on a ship you better know where to find it (unless you would rather
clean oily bilges).
Jack
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266.5 | whos dictionary is it ? | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Mon Mar 24 1986 14:12 | 17 |
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My time "in the service..." was spent on submarines. We had no
varnished surfaces, almost no chrome and brass and no Bosun Mates
to keep the terminology book. I know that many terms I heard used
on Navy ships have little or no bearing to small boats, and many
only some similarities. For instance the Ensign on our submarine
(aside from some wet eared non-quals) was a 13 striped, 50 star
flag. "Yachies" are want to call that 13 stripe, anchor-in-the-blue,
insignia an Ensign.
I also have never ordered "open the main ballast tank vents" on
our boat and cannot recall hearing the OOD or Diving Officer
order "Ready About". So I guess some things just dont transfer
from military/commercial shipping to yachts without adjustments.
Walt :^}
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266.6 | Scope up | MILVAX::SCHUFFELS | | Tue Mar 25 1986 07:12 | 16 |
| I agree with Walt on terminology similar to what he stated. Military
sea-going terms are in a class by themselves when it comes to the
many and varied ships they operate. Of course we dont even refer
to
submarines as ships. They are boats. Even though a WW II fleet
submarine was 320 ft long and displaced 2100 tons. Thats roughly
equivelent to a Fletcher class destroyer.
But when you come down right to it basic marine term are pretty
consistant. I'm sure we could start another note just on terminology.
I'll keep my "scope" up and my "hydrophones" on for a continuation
of this conversation.
Jack
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266.7 | someone elses use of brightwork | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Tue Mar 25 1986 11:18 | 16 |
| I was reading the April issue of sail last nite. There is the usual
section on spring commissioning. One piece on maintaining exterior
varnished surfaces was describing a problem where the "brightwork"
was discolored and lifted, as a result of improperly sealed or bedded
woodwork, a few weeks after finishing. This author (a Maine carpenter)
was refering specifically to the Varnish itself as brightwork.
I personally avoid this particular one on my boat by, 1) not varnishing
but oiling exterior woodwork, 2) refering to the woodwork by its
function - like handrail - or generically - like "I'm going to oil
the teak", 3) all metal surfaces are either painted, anodized or
stainless - again I "polish the stainless", and finally - doing
it myself.
Walt
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266.8 | Showing my age | MILVAX::SCHUFFELS | | Tue Mar 25 1986 14:28 | 9 |
| I guess .3 was right! I'm either using an archaic term or
Naval/merchant service term. Now I'm really gonna hafta go home
and dig out some old manuals.
Stand by (tomorrow) for the official meaning if brightwork.
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266.9 | Saved | MILVAX::SCHUFFELS | | Tue Mar 25 1986 14:35 | 7 |
| Just for the helluva it I looked in Webster's 7th Edition and lo
and behold this is what I found!
brightwork n: polished or plated metalwork
I feel rejuvenated :-}
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266.10 | Just thought you'd like to know | GRAMPS::WCLARK | Walt Clark | Mon Apr 28 1986 17:48 | 10 |
| While we were dusting off our small library on the boat this past
weekend I came across a book that we picked up for my son, called
The Origin of Nautical Terms. I remembered this note and looked
up brightwork. To paraphrase (since I didnt write the text down):
Any wood finished with a transparant coating.... The term has also
degenerated in some circles to mean polished metal.
Walt
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266.11 | Reflecting on Brightwork | HBO::BILLINGS | | Tue Apr 05 1988 16:06 | 9 |
| Brightwork refers to varnished places, or in the case of some boats
you see, places that SHOULD be varnished. It would be interesting
to learn strict derivation, although it certainly predates chrome.
One explanation I've heard is that varnished wood would reflect
light, whereas unvarnished would not. Does not explain, however,
why shined brass is NOT brightwork. Someone else may have more
to add.
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266.12 | | LEEL::LINDQUIST | | Tue Jan 04 1994 15:50 | 15 |
| �� <<< Note 266.6 by MILVAX::SCHUFFELS >>>
�� -< Scope up >-
�� I agree with Walt on terminology similar to what he stated. Military
�� sea-going terms are in a class by themselves when it comes to the
�� many and varied ships they operate. Of course we dont even refer
�� to
�� submarines as ships. They are boats. Even though a WW II fleet
�� submarine was 320 ft long and displaced 2100 tons. Thats roughly
�� equivelent to a Fletcher class destroyer.
Somewhere in this file, there was a good description of boat
vs. ship. I've looked, but cannot find it. Any pointers?
Thanks.
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