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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

252.0. "Permission to raft up!" by AKOV03::WHITE () Thu Mar 06 1986 10:08

Hi, just discovered this notes file and was pleased to find it was an
active one.

I'm an avid sailor and spend much of the summer weekends on Buzzards Bay
where the sailing is great. I moor at West Island, Fairhaven and have 
done so for the past 6 years. I had sailed out of Hingaham harbor for 
about 3 years prior to moving down to the Bay and I've not regretted 
the change.  

I'm looking for a small diesel inboard engine (10-18 hp). Any ideas 
on sources?


Peter

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252.1VOX::TWAITSThu Mar 06 1986 11:4614
I am in the process of repowering my Pearson Coaster with a new Volvo. I
spent a lot of time collecting literature etc. that I would be happy
to lend to you. All of the common engines seem to be good, I tried to stay away
from high RPM engines (Yanmar, Kaboda) because of noise, and engines that
cant be hand started. All of the wholesale distributors will give a 20%
discount if you are installing the engine yourself.

I have a 12 HP Furriman that I took out of my boat. It needs some parts. There
are some new, but old model Yanmars at Mack Boreing for $1.4.

Larry Twaits
223-6203


252.2CASV05::ETHOMASTue Mar 11 1986 09:0611
re. .0
I'd think you'd have a large selection of dealers right there in Fairhaven/New
Bedford. Yanmar's distributor, Mack Boring, has a facility right near Braintree
Five Corners (which is fairly close to 128). They have a couple models in the
range you're considering. I'm pretty sure 10HP is going to restrict you to one
cylinder models for all manufacturers. I don't know if you can get 2 cylinder
models in the 18HP range 

Ed


252.3Yanmar / Volvo brochuresSUMMIT::THOMASEd ThomasWed Mar 19 1986 14:4815
    Peter, 
    
    If you're still looking for material... I came across two
    brochures that you might find helpful. One is for the 9 hp Yanmar and
    the other is for Volvo's 3 small diesels. The small Volvo's a few
    inches larger in most dimensions than the small Yanmar and weighs about
    100 lbs more. BUT... it runs 4-500 rpm slower than the Yanmar and is
    more powerful. I think it also uses less fuel but I may have read the
    chart incorrectly. One big factor for me would be service and the local
    dealer, Landfall Marine in Weymouth is just around the corner. Now,
    if the Volvo will fit...
    
    
    Ed 

252.4Yanmar experiencesGRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkThu Mar 20 1986 09:3667
    I ran a Yanmar 8HP (YSM8) for about 5 years in a 25' sloop we owned.
    Here are my recollections:
    
    The engine never failed to start and loved to be run near full throttle
    (most diesels - like the FWC Universal we have now - much prefer
    1/2 to 2/3 max).  
    
    The engine was very strong for 8HP and the engine - gearbox was
    nearly indestructible.   We once fouled our broken headstay in
    the prop, although it initially died, I restarted the engine and
    forced it into forward - it broke the headstay in two and allowed
    us to make port.
    
    Yanmars are cold blooded.  They never do warm up much and most boat
    makers using Yanmars dont even bother to connect the engine cooling
    water to the water heater.  I talked with Irwin and Siedelmann factory
    people about this (their water heater had the coils installed but
    n/c) and they both said the engine just doesnt build up enough heat to
    provide any.
    
    One lungers are extremely rough at low RPM - so maybe the high RPM
    is of some benefit.
    
    The YSM8 could be safely run at angles of heel up to 35 degrees.
    This is nice to know if you are using the engine to help make progress
    against a stiff breeze and chop.  My present engine (Universal)
    cautions against running the engine for extended periods if the
    heel is above 20 degrees.
    
    I had a problem with mine that Mack-Boring said was a recognised
    low % problem.   At certain engine RPM the lube oil being tossed around
    by the crank shaft would almost atomize, and travel up the crankcase
    vent tube to the engine air intake (no filter). The engine would
    run on this (really bad and smoking like mad) and the engine was
    difficult to shut down (I usually had to open the compression release)
    once it started.  I solved this by putting an automotive PVC valve
    in the tube.  I dont know if Yanmar ever bothered to ECO a solution.
    
    The salt water cooling proved a hassle the 2nd year, when I found
    the block mounted zinc had corroded in place.  I never did get it
    out. 

    I found I had to remove, clean and reinstall the IC voltage regulator
    on the Mitsubishi alternator each season to prevent a carbon/oil
    film build up across the regulator terminals from discharging the
    engine battery when the boat sat unattended.  Before I found the
    problem, I had a fully charged battery drop to the point where it
    would not turn the engine over in the span of 5 days.
    
    I also had to replace the fuel injector after the 3rd season due
    to some bad fuel. A tank of bad fuel could haunt you a long time
    at 3hours/gal @ hull speed.
    
    The above represents all the problems over 5 years - not too bad
    in my estimation.
    
    I have a model 25 Universal in my current boat, and have found I
    prefer the FWC system to seawater cooling.  I also suspect the FWC
    engines are a little tighter and quieter than seawater cooled. This
    is the only area that merits direct comparison, since the 25 is
    a 3 cylinder with 3 times the rated power it is much smoother and
    stronger than the 8.
    
    I hope some of this may be of help.
    
    Walt