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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

45.0. "genoa hardware" by MKFSA::MONTIVIRDI () Thu Aug 09 1984 12:39

how does one determine what size and type of hardware to buy when
preparing to acquire a genoa.

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45.1--UnknownUser--Thu Aug 09 1984 18:201
45.2MOTHER::BERENSThu Aug 09 1984 18:3047
The hardware required is generally the following: A track along the deck 
so that the block position can be adjusted easily. A block on the track. 
A winch. (The same on the other side of the boat). And, especially on 
larger boats, a turning block aft of the winch so that the sheet leads   
onto the winch nicely. The track can be omitted, but the chances of 
getting a fixed_in_place block in the right place are small, and the 
correct position does vary with wind strength and sea conditions (if you 
are lusting for that last 0.1 knot).

There are at least five ways to choose the 'right' genoa hardware:

1. Look at what the other person is using on his/her identical or
similar boat. Ask if he/she finds it adequate. 

2. Intuition: Does the hardware look strong enough? This is not likely 
to result in the optimum hardware. Genoa loads can be higher than you 
might think. Or, if your intuition goes the other way, you may get gear 
far stronger than you need.

3. Call the boat's builder and get his recommendation. Trouble is, many
builders pay more attention to cost than adequate strength and ease of
use. Based on my not vast experience, 90% of the builder installed
winches are at least one size too small. The rest of the builder
recommended gear is probably at least marginally safe, thanks to product
liability suits. 

4. Use a winch manufacturer's recommendation for winch size. Choose the 
rest of the gear to have a comparable strength. Barient's winch sizes, 
for example, are the safe working load on the winch in hundreds of 
pounds. My Barient 27s thus have a safe load of 2700 pounds. My turning 
blocks are rated at 5000 pounds working load. The track is rated at 3950 
pounds and the track blocks at 2800 pounds. In a brisk breeze I suspect 
that none of this is any too strong (315 sq foot jib in 30+ knots) and I 
can only with considerable effort trim the jib in. My winches are one 
size larger than builder recommended and are a size Barient recommends 
for racing. Some of the block manufacturers (eg Scheafer, my favorite) 
make recommendations based on sail size and/or boat size. 

5. Calculate the likely loads and choose the gear accordingly. There was 
an article in Cruising World or Sail some time ago telling how to do 
this. A bit technical unless you remember geometry. (I can send a copy 
to anyone who desperately wants one.) 

Above all, remember, if it breaks, someone could be very badly hurt. So 
err on the side of too strong.


45.3ALIEN::TYSONFri Aug 10 1984 11:1414
The safest way to go is to call a reputable sailmaker. He/She works
with these problems every day and can specify the correct hardware,
track placement and the like. In the Boston area, this is easy as
there are lots of 'world class' sailmakers around. in other parts of
the country, contact a service loft for one of the national firms, or
find a reagonal or local loft. There are more out there than most think.

As one who was aboard a PJ/Frers 53 when a turning block exploded,
these things can kill! don't try to eyeball it. Lofts will gladly
make recomendations on this sort of thing as a goodwill gesture.

				Happy (and safe) sailing
					Tom Tyson