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Title:DCE Product Information
Notice:Kit Info - See 2.*-4.*
Moderator:TUXEDO::MAZZAFERRO
Created:Fri Jun 26 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2269
Total number of notes:10003

2151.0. "Export restrictions changing! (DES)" by NAMIX::jpt (FIS and Chips) Thu Feb 06 1997 07:51

	As Topic 319.22 gets no responses and this is URGENT, I'd like
	to ask public commitment/statement from DCE group:

	How and when the changes in export laws will affect OSF/DCE
	DES encryption exports? 

	Statement given seems to accept any export of DES based technology
	NOW (in DIGITAL products), and this gives us an WINDOW of OPPORTUNITY
	which is narrow, and we'd like to utilize it!

	Any comments?

		-jari
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2151.1Don't have an official answer yetTUXEDO::BENOITFri Feb 07 1997 16:5422
>	How and when the changes in export laws will affect OSF/DCE
>	DES encryption exports? 
>
>	Statement given seems to accept any export of DES based technology
>	NOW (in DIGITAL products), and this gives us an WINDOW of OPPORTUNITY
>	which is narrow, and we'd like to utilize it!

We don't want to leave you hanging, but we don't have a good answer yet. 

Yes, the statement seems to give us the right to export DES based products
now.  However, that permission is based on having a plan in place to
implement key recovery.   We do not yet have such a plan, and are not yet
certain that we can make a plan.   We have our best security minds 
working on that now.

We're evaluating what all this means, but won't have an answer for probably
a couple more weeks.  This change was a surprise to us, and we haven't
figured out all the consequences yet.  

	Beth Benoit
	Software Engineering Manager
	DCE for Windows NT and Windows 95
2151.2TnxNAMIX::jptFIS and ChipsMon Feb 10 1997 03:0371

	Beth,

	Thanks for your update. I will add another memo, that might
	interest folks communicating with customers about this and
	similar topics.

		-jari

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                                        L�hett�j�:Robert Rarog @DCC             
                                                  RAROG.ROBERT@COPSS1A1@SOAREA@ALF
                                        Osasto:   DIGITAL TRADE
                                        Puhelin:  427-2134    (202)898-2134

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Aihe: Key Recovery Plan Approval                                             1

        On January 30, Digital became one of three companies to obtain U.S. 
        Government approval for a Key Recovery Plan.  As a result, we will 
        be able to ship encryption products containing DES (or 56-bit RC4) 
        without Key Recovery to most customers outside of embargoed 
        countries without a U.S. export license for two years.  
        
        Up to now, Digital DES products have been approvable for export to 
        subsidiaries of U.S. firms and banks only, and then only after 
        onerous Department of State munitions licensing procedures.  Now 
        such products can be shipped to most customers (exceptions: 
        proscribed end-users such as denied parties and proliferation 
        end-users).
        
        Products eligible for shipment under this authorization are:
        
            o  Encryption for OpenVMS
        
            o  Roamabout wireless LAN adapters
        
            o  DCE privacy options.  
        
        NOTE: Product managers should contact Keith Melchers @dcc of the 
        Trade Organization for information on recordkeeping, coding and 
        product release procedures.
        
        In addition, the Alta Vista Tunnels have been cleared for export at 
        DES-strength at such time that 56-bit versions of these products 
        are released.
        
        The ability to ship DES-strength products without Key Recovery will 
        be renewed every six months until Jan 1, 1999, provided we meet our 
        Key Recovery milestones.  However, our ability to support customers 
        who bought these products within the two-year period, including the 
        ability to provide upgrades not affecting key length and additional 
        licenses, will continue indefinitely.  
        
        While the other two companies to receive export approval for DES 
        products have not been identified by DOC, Trusted Information 
        Systems has announced that it is one.  As IBM also has an 
        application pending, it may be the other, although there has been 
        no public announcement.
        
        
        Regards,
        
        
        Bob Rarog