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Conference turris::womannotes-v5

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:Welcome to Womannotes!h 1.14 for news of important problems..es
Moderator:CSC32::M_EVANS
Created:Fri Aug 27 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:623
Total number of notes:55447

623.0. "Hostile environments. What is it to you?" by LANDO::BARBOSA () Thu Jun 05 1997 16:02

Hi everyone,

I need help. And thought I can get it here.  Can I?  
I'm looking for a women's point of view in particular, but men may
make suggestions also. I'm particularly interest in reading the
thoughts of those that don't frequently write in notes (the silent
majority), but would like to hear from everyone.  Even if your
opinions are soft and personal.  I am asking for help...

But first, a little about myself
I was born in the island or Brava, the smallest of the ten
inhabited, Cape Verdean Islands.  I came to the US at the age of
seven and consider myself an American.  I will, and many of my
family members have gone to war to protect the USA, including my
uncle (born in Brava) who is a hero and has been awarded the
military (USA) metals to prove it.  However, I'm a minority and will
always be especially since there are only 700,000 Cape Verdean in
the world. :-) I love it......

It has become increasing impossible to determine what is a
hostile environment, to a protect minority group. I would like
your help in understanding what constitutes a hostile environment
to you?  Not to every minority group in general, but to you in
particular. I hold a master degree in management and thought I 
read and experienced enough as a minority to quickly identify a
hostile environments.  But, recently someone saw a hostile
environment that I missed.  Your thoughts will help me
personally and professionally to reassess my understand of
this critical concept.  Again, remember I'm a minority and I
have experienced hostile environments.  What is, or makes a
hostile environment to you? Even a one liner will help.
Thanks you very much.

Armando

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623.1HostilityTEAMLK::SCHELBERGThu Jun 05 1997 16:1213
    I would say for me - a hostile environment includes verbal abuse...
    physical abuse and just plain being nasty!  Also not being equal.
    
    Going back to years ago when women were really not considered equal
    in this country...in the 1800's men could kill their wives and not
    have to serve one day in jail but if a woman killed her husband she
    was executed...and women couldn't vote for a long time or be on jury.
    
    so I would consider that a hostile environment, not being included in
    all the rights of the country etc.
    
    /bcat
    
623.2CSC32::M_EVANSdancing lightly on the edgeThu Jun 05 1997 16:3956
    
    
    I will give you my definition, but the mileage may very.
    
    Hostile environments, in my opinion, are created when a group of
    persons or one person fails to respect the boundaries of a another
    person or group.  In other words, if a person asks me to stop a
    non-work behavior in the working environmnet that is irritating or
    hurtful to them, and I not only don't stop, but escalate the behavior
    and/or encourage others in a group to escalate or do a behavior, I am
    creating a hostile environment.
    
    I have seen another definition, where it is any behavior which might be
    interpreted as offensive is creating a hostile environment, but I
    believe this trivializes a really serious problem.  In defining an
    issue in this way, I think you can actually create a hostile
    environment where no one understand what the boundaries are, and things
    can really get out of hand.  
    
    If I am in what feels like a hostile environment, one where my
    boundaries are constantly trampled, then I have the responsibility to:
    
    1.  Examine in myself if the environment is really all that hurtful to
    me.
    
    2.  Explain to the person or persons what behavior is offensive,
    hurtful, or frightening to me, and ask that it stop.  I do need to
    understand that the person(s) doing this behavior are probably not
    doing this out of any evil intent, but more out of habit or ignorance.  
    
    3.  Document the behavior should it continue, or start being more
    pointed.
    
    4.  Work with a senior team member or a thought leader to address the
    situation if it is continuing.
    
    5.  Bring it to personnel's attention, only if I can't manage to work
    something out below the radar of personnel, or if the person creating
    the environment is in a position of power above me.  
    
    6.  Be prepared, if I have to bring this above radar, to have to sue
    and/or change jobs.  While every company has an agressive written
    policy around workplace harassment or hostile environments, it has not
    been my experience or those of friends in any of the corporations they
    have worked for that the talk is walked.  Often the same aggressive HR
    rep  that tells people that any laughter or joking in an area is
    harassment is the first one to say that you and the person(s) involved
    in this should just sit down and get along, even when it is a person in
    a supervisory position over the person experiencing harassment.  (See
    Aberdeen Proving Grounds for an object lesson, and don't think large
    corporations are all that different)
    
    7.  expect that things will move slowly.
    
    
    meg