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Title: | All about Scandinavia |
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Moderator: | TLE::SAVAGE |
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Created: | Wed Dec 11 1985 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 603 |
Total number of notes: | 4325 |
473.0. "Cordless phones/radio transmitters" by TLE::SAVAGE () Wed Jun 12 1991 15:23
From: [email protected] (Lars-Henrik Eriksson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Cordless phones(was: Will a U.S. made telephone work in Norway?)
Date: 10 Jun 91 17:37:41 GMT
Sender: [email protected] (Lars-Henrik Eriksson)
Organization: SICS, Kista (Stockholm), Sweden
In article <[email protected]>, dep@bu-pub (Demetrios Paneras) writes:
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>I would pretty much insist, however, that a FCC approved phone is perfectly OK.
>All the rest is just a rumour.
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Well, nothing is like first-hand information, so I called the frequency
management department of Swedish Telecom and asked them about U.S.
cordless phones. I know the original query was about Norway, but I
doubt that Sweden bans U.S. cordless phone on different grounds than
does Norway.
In Sweden, the frequency band used by U.S. cordless phones (around
40-50 MHz), is used for military communications and TV channels. Lots
of Swedish TV channels are not in this band, so it is quite possible
that you could use a US cordless phone in Sweden without causing
interference, if you're lucky. There have been instances where people
have complained about TV interference, which was traced to a neighbours
illegaly imported cordless phone. Swedish cordless phones use a band
around 800 MHz. So much for "rumours".
(Note: "channel" in this context does not mean "station" or
"programme", but simply "frequency". The same TV station transmits on
many different channels to avoid interference (sic!) between nearby
transmitters)
Apparently, international conventions give each country substantial
leeway in deciding what frequencies are to be used for. Between
European countries, the frequency allotments are (by necessity) very
similar, but not identical.
According to Swedish Telecom, there were also some subtle difference in
signalling between U.S and Swedish phones that causes trouble
occationally (I don't know if this difference exists in all phones, but
only cordless ones).
Again, the issue is not the quality of the phone itself, but its
suitability in the Swedish environment.
Since there has been lots of talk about "government-controlled
monopolies", I would like to explain just what regulates the use of
phones in Sweden.
First off, there is no goverment monopoly whatsoever on telecom
equipment in Sweden. Anyone may manufacture, import, sell or use such
equipment provided it is approved.
Any equipment, including phones, connected to the public telephone
network in Sweden has to be approved. This approval used to be done by
Swedish Telecom, but is now done by a separate authority. The approval
was given to the new authority out of fear that Swedish Telecom could
be biased, since they sell phones etc. themselves.
The approval serves only to ensure that the phone doesn't damage or
interfere with the phone system. It does *not* ensure the quality of
the phone, or even that it works. I have an approved phone that doesn't
work at my home, but does work at my job. Swedish Telecom only says
"sorry, the approval doesn't guarantee that it works".
To show just how tricky this "damage or interference" business can be,
there is a story about early imported phones with memory functions.
These phones maintained their memories by drawing a current from the
phone line. Such phones are not approved in Sweden, any phones with
memory have to use batteries or mains power.
Why? The local phone station supplies electric power to the telephones.
When the phone is "on hook", they draw no current, when they are "off
hook", they do. Since most phones are off hook only a fraction of the
time, the power supply need give only a limited current, calculated to
be sufficient for all normal situations (with a hefty margin, I guess).
Since these non-approved memory phones draw a current at all times,
they can overload the phone station power supply, if there are too many
of them. This is not at all obvious to the user, who can only see that
the phone works perfectly.
Now, you could claim that it is the phone companies business to supply
current for memory phones if that's what the customers want. Even if
you accept this argument (I don't) the fact remains that most phone
switch designs were made before there were any memory phones, and that
replacing or rebuilding them all just for this would be an enormous
investment.
Any use of radio transmitters in Sweden has to be licensed. It is
illegal to import and use (I don't know about possessing) unlicensed
radio transmitters. The first requirement for licensing a transmitter
is that it uses proper frequencies to avoid interference. Again, it is
not a question about the quality of the equipment, but only that it
doesn't cause interference.
--
Lars-Henrik Eriksson Internet: [email protected]
Swedish Institute of Computer Science Phone (intn'l): +46 8 752 15 09
Box 1263 Telefon (nat'l): 08 - 752 15 09
S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
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473.1 | "Scandinavia a good market for wireless services | TLE::SAVAGE | | Tue Jun 29 1993 10:53 | 40 |
| From: [email protected] (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.biz.mergers,clari.tw.telecom,clari.biz.misc,
clari.news.europe,clari.biz.products,clari.local.sfbay
Subject: PacTel acquires stake in Swedish cellular venture
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 12:26:30 PDT
WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (UPI) -- Pacific Telesis Group said Monday its
PacTel subsidiary has agreed to purchase a 51 percent interest in
Swedish cellular phone concern NordicTel Holdings for $153 million.
"This acquisition furthers our goal of providing wireless services
in some of the world's top economies," said C. Lee Cox, president and
chief executive officer of PacTel Corp. "Scandinavia is a very
attractive cellular market, with good demographics, concentrated
population centers, and strong demand for wireless services."
"This is a natural fit with our other European wireless ventures in
Germany, Portugal and Spain," Cox said.
The move by Pacific Telesis comes at a time when it is working on
separating its non-core businesses, such as cellular and paging, from
its telephone business. Its executives have said that the "wireless"
business will be able to operate more effectively and profitably and
give it and the remaining phone company more financial flexibility.
Owners of NordicTel, which operates a cellular business under the
name Europolitan, include Swedish carmaker Volvo, industrial group
Trelleborg, electronics products concern Spectra-Physics and British
telecommunications concern Vodafone.
NordicTel is one of three cellular companies in Sweden operating a
network based on the digital pan-European Global System for Mobile
Communications.
Sweden has nearly 9 million people and approximately 700,000 cellular
users, one of the highest customer usage rates in the world. In addition
to the three GSM systems, there are two analog networks.
NordicTel also owns 20 percent of the private Danish GSM operator
Dansk Mobiltelefon, which holds one of two GSM licenses in Denmark and
markets the service under the name Sonofon. Denmark has a population of
5 million and nearly 250,000 cellular customers.
Pacific Telesis owns a 26 percent interest in the German company
Mannesmann Mobilfunk, which owns and operates D2 Privat, the world's
largest digital cellular network; a 23 percent interest in Telecel, the
Portuguese GSM operator which began service last October; and a stake in
Sistelcom-Telemensaje, a nationwide paging business in Spain.
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