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Title:All about Scandinavia
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452.0. "Folk dances" by TLE::SAVAGE () Wed Feb 13 1991 17:04

    From: [email protected] (Annika Waern)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Swedish contributions to the world
    Date: 13 Feb 91 16:28:52 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Erkki
    A.  Lehtimaeki) writes:

    > Porczyk) writes:
    > >It's "polka", not "polska", and it's Czech, not Swedish.
    > >Oh, the pitfalls of ignorance...
    > 
    > It's "polska", and it's Finnish, not Swedish.
    > Ignorance? Is it something I can eat?
 
    More ignorance coming right up:
 
    "Polska" is a very old dance term in Sweden and Finland, originally
    used to denote a wide range of pre-walz dances and music. (I don't
    know if the term is used in the  other Nordic countries.) Presumably,
    the origin WAS some kind of dance imported from  Poland, but  what that
    dance looked like is very difficult to determine. One usual claim  is
    that the  term was used to denote the first couple-dances that came to
    Scandinavia. The  earliest  uses to the term date to the 16th century.
    (BTW, Sweden and Finland were one country at that time.)
 
    Today, a whole set of different music styles are called polskas in
    Sweden.  Typically they are in three-beat (there are some weird
    exceptions), but they vary very much in different parts of Sweden.
    Most of the corresponding dances are influenced by  the walz pattern,
    but have also kept influences of older dance variations. The musical 
    differences between different "polska" styles are huge between
    different parts of the  country, but can be rather subtle for places
    close to each other, and finally, vary from musician to musician.
    More "modern" folk music, such as Walz, Polka, Hambo and Schottis, do
    not vary as much, although there are differences for these styles too.
 
 
    Annika Waern
    Internet: [email protected]
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452.1Norwegian schedule 1992TLE::SAVAGEMon Feb 03 1992 14:06122
    From: [email protected] (Dave Golber)                        
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Date: 30 Jan 92 16:43:53 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
 
    ....
 
    Intro to dance in Norway:
 
    What do people do NOW: Well, rock & roll of course ...
 
    Then, of course, all the various dance crazes of the past  went through
    Norway too.  Like the Tango.  I have heard that  some places have their
    own Norwegian village version of the  Tango.
 
    Then before then, there was a lot of industrialization in the  19th
    century, that brought in varius sorts of outside  laborers and outside
    influences, along with things like  schottish, reinlander, polka and so
    on.  These got Norwegian  versions too.  These are called "gammeldans"
    - "old dance". They are usually danced to accordion, violin, guitar,
    bass  groups ... pretty familiar music.
 
    But then there are dances that were there before then. These are very
    local to different regions of the country.   These have names like
    Telespringar (Springar from Telemark),  gangar from ..., rull from ..
    and so forth.  These are called  bygdedans ... rural dance.  These are
    usually danced to solo  violin or hardingfele, depending on what part
    of the country  they are from.  Really neat stuff.
 
    OK, now I can tell you about the schedule.  There's earlier stuff and
    later stuff, but I'll just do May through  September.  I'll give place
    names and regions.  You can look  at the map.  I'll give a description
    of what to expect  afterwards.  "aa" is an a with a circle over it.
    "o/" is an o with a slash through it. "ae" is a and e stuck  together. 
    The words in quotes are just the name of the  event, not the type or
    place of the event. A "kappleik" is a dance and music competition.
 
    23-24 May "Luraasstemnet" in Atraa in Tinn.  Telemark, at the north
    end of Tinnsjaa.  A kappleik or concert weekend.
 
    30-31 May "Spel og Hallingkast" in Gol in Hallingdal.  A kappleik or
    concert weekend.
 
    12-14 June "Brekkendagen" in Brekken, near Ro/ros in Gudbrandsdal.  A
    kappleik or concert weekend.
 
    24-28 June "Landskappleiken" in Fagernes in Valdres. The national
    kappleik.
 
    3-4 July "Belg og Baaggaa" in Aalen.  Gudbrandsdal.  ??
 
    15-19 July "Landsfestival i gamaldansmusikk" Geilo. Big gamaldans music
    event.  In Hallingdal.
 
    26-26 July "Jo/rn Hilme-stemnet" in Fagernes in Valdres.  A big
    kappleik.
 
    31 July - 2 August "Setesdalskappleiken"  A kappleik in Setesdal. 
    Doesn't say what town.
 
    7-9 August "Vestlands Kappleiken" in Bergen.  A kappleik.
 
    21-23 August "Folkemusikkdagane i Porsgrunn" in Porsgrunn  Telemark.  A
    kappleik.
 
    28-30 August "Disriktskappleiken" in Gjo/vik.  A kappleik.
 
    There are some other events which usually take place in this period
    which aren't in the magazine yet ...
 
    For more information, call the Landslaget for Spelemenn  (National
    Fiddler's Club) at 02-37 35 92 or 02-38 04 30. Someone there will speak
    good English.  (In general, young  people will speak good english.  Old
    timers will speak heavy  dialect Norwegian ... good luck!)
 
    For all of these events except the Landskappleik, I suggest you try to
    find out exactly where the event is in town ... it may be in some
    little hall on a side road, or three miles out of town, or ... and the
    man on the street may not know/care  much about folk music or dance.  
 
    The Landskappleik is a BIG event ... 5000 people descend on a town of
    10,000 (that's a guess).  But the point is that you should give some
    thought about having a place to stay before  you get there.  Call
    063-61 909 and ask for Vibeke Funder.
 
    Ditto for the Landsfestivalen i Gammaldansmusikk.  Call 067 86 300.
 
    For other places, you can probably find a place to stay when you get
    there.  Don't be shy about about asking people.  Do watch out about
    food: Stores tend to close earlier and more often there than here.
 
    OK, so what are these events:  Well, a kappleik is a dance and music
    competition.  Usually with dancing and partying in the evening.  And
    concerts too.  The landskappleik is a  monster example of this, with
    some very fine stuff indeed.   If you are there at the right time,
    don't miss it!  And don't  bother to sleep.   Hint: try to attach
    yourself to some  Norwegian who seems to be in the thick of things, and
    find your way to the semi-private parties late at night.  Incredible
    music and dance.
 
    I admit: The smallest kappleiks can sometimes be a bit of a bore. 
    Contestants one after another, from good to awful.   Overheated room. 
    Long day.
 
    Some of the events listed above may be only concerts, without 
    competition ... but there may be dancing performed, and there will
    probably be a party in the evening.
 
    Some of these events I know very well what they are, having been to
    them more than once.  Others I don't know about.   
 
    If you're interested in Scandinavian dance, you should subscribe to
    Nordiska News, 7016 17th Ave NW, Seattle WA  98117.  If you are
    interested in Scandinavian music, you  should subscribe to the Sound
    Post, of the Hardanger Fiddle Assoc. of America, 2745 Winnetka Ave.
    North, Suite 211,  Minneapolis, MN  55427
 
 
    Ha det!
 
    David Golber
452.2Folk dance through the agesTLE::SAVAGEFri Feb 07 1992 13:5263
    From: [email protected] (Johan Garpendahl)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Nordic folk dances 
    Date: 3 Feb 92 01:36:20 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (Lord of the News)
    Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping
 
 
    ...we'll start with the dances in the viking days.
 
    One type of dance that was common in those days is still living on the
    Faero islands. Everyone who wants to joins a long "train" of dancers.
    There is a lead singer who will sing a song of a 100 verses or more.
    Everybody sings during the refrain. The dance should go on for hours,
    so you really get into the groove. If you need to, you can go home to
    eat or sleep for a while and come back and join the dance again later,
    because these parties don't take four hours, rather four days.
 
    In the middle ages there are also ring dances and the Playford dances.
    I haven't looked that much at the historic dances (aka hysteric
    dances:-) yet, so don't take my word for the one and only truth.
 
    Moving into the 18'th century we find more of the contra dances;
    minuets and stuff.
 
    19-th century is more interesting in a nordic perspective. As far as I
    know, (and I don't know enough, I'm afraid) this is when the nordic
    folk dance is beginning to develop.  Naturally, much of the influence
    comes from Europe. It's becoming common to dance in pairs. We have
    polka and schottis from sometime around 1850. 
 
    Also different types of polska is being developed. There are a lot of
    different kinds of polska if you go up to Dalarna, H�lsingland, and
    J�mtland. Polska is usually divided into two phases (or three phases or
    four), one pre-step where you are "walking" with your partner and a
    phase where you are dancing around with your partner.
 
    The music is most often 3/4 beat, and the rythm is often very 
    specialized and very different in different areas.
 
    In 1880 in Uppsala, the folk dancing society called "Philochoros" was
    founded. They have taken notes of much of the swedish folk dances, for
    better and for worse. For worse, since they have not always preserved
    the folk traditions as they where. Their notes have made dances that
    used to be rather free in performance more strict and "fancy" looking.
    Some of them had some ballet background, which has influenced their
    views on some of the dances. 
 
    On the other hand, hadn't it been for them, some of these dances would
    not have been available at all today.
 
    I think the boston waltz hits Stockholm in 1900. Since then, I think
    most of the inspiration comes from the USA ....
 
    Hope this tells you something about Nordic (Swedish) dances ....
 
	Johan
 
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    Johan Garpendahl                   | Email: [email protected]
    Linkoping University               | Phone: +46 - 13 - 28 13 24
    Dept. of Electrical Engineering    | Fax  : +46 - 13 - 13 92 82
    S-581 83  LINKOPING // SWEDEN      | This space is left blank.
452.3Swedish traditions go beyond folk dancingTLE::SAVAGEThu Jan 26 1995 08:5553
    To: Multiple recipients of list SWEDE-L <[email protected]>
    From: Mats Onnestam <[email protected]>
    Subject:  swedish traditions 
    
    I'll try to give some input on this theme about folk-dancing, Swedes
    and their 'roots'. I would suppose that  Swedes [do] not dance
    'folk-dances' very often. I would even tend to say that most of us
    don't even know how to do it, but there still a fairly active movement
    that does and has festivals all the time. I would compare this to the
    same kind of festivals you would find in the US where people dance
    squaredances and listens to CW music. Does the existence of these mean
    that the average American knows how to do it, or even feels it as a
    part of his 'roots'? Of course not!
    
    Swedish 'folk-dances' have never been a tradition known to a greater
    part of the population. They were invented about 100 years ago as a
    pastime for the upper class in the countryside, the Swedish
    'folkdrakter' 'folk-dresses' are from approximately the same age and
    also used by the upper class.
    
    The movement with 'folkdans' and 'folkdrakter' was very strong in
    Sweden about 10 - 20 years ago, around the time of the 'Grona vagen'
    the green wave, when everyone should return to nature. A friend of
    my family was and still is very active in this movement but she now
    says that she's for the moment the only one in Stockholm that can
    produce a real 'folkdrakt' and that the courses in 'folkdans' has
    almost no visitors. The Swedes have turned to Work-out and Hip-hop
    instead.
    
    So, 'folkdans' was fashion, just like downhill skiing, windsurfing,
    yuppie's and skateboards.
    
    But, back to the track, does this mean that we don't care about our
    'roots'. I would say no! I don't think that 'folkdans' is a part of
    a Swede's roots and never has been. August Strindberg, Selma Lagerlof
    and Astrid Lindgren are parts of the roots, the long summernights
    and all the midsummer traditions, Lucia and the huge 'julbord', and
    even Carl-Michael Bellman, Evert Taube and Ulf Lundell with all their
    hymns to the consumption of wine and 'snaps' are. And all this very
    Swedish culture and tradition is practiced in Sweden, every day, by
    almost every Swede.
    
    I guess I could ramble on for a while about this, but I won't. I will
    just give one more example. Dagens Nyheter presented the statistics
    over movie successes in Sweden the last ten years. Which films were
    in top? Easy to guess: Lasse Abergs Sallskapsresor, Astrid Lindgrens
    Ronja and Gosta Ekmans Jonssonligor all outclassed the American
    box-office successes. That should give you an idea of the Swedish roots
    more than anything else.
    
    Mats
      <[email protected]>     
    
452.4Swedish folk dancing traditions go back > 100 yearsTLE::SAVAGEFri Jan 27 1995 15:1458
    From: Michael Palmer <[email protected]>
    To: Multiple recipients of list SWEDE-L <[email protected]>
    
    Folk dances were quite common in provincial, farming areas in the late
    1700's and early 1800's and many types of folk dances such as various
    village polskas have been danced at least since that time.  Long dance
    has been performed at least since the 1500's.  Although the nobles
    indulged in their own dances more related to those danced in other areas
    of Europe at the time, polskas and other folk dances at that time were
    danced not so much by the nobles as by farmers (peasants) and it is, in
    fact, a provincial peasant tradition.  
    
    Mats is probably thinking of hambo when he mentions folk dance being
    invented in the last 100 years.  Hambo was an attempt to bring taste of
    the peasant dance traditions to the upper classes in the cities in the
    end of the 1800's and it is still quite popular in Sweden.  Often
    Swedes who can dance no other folk dances can dance schottis and hambo. 
    The dance was a merging of several different village polska traditions
    into one dance that could be uniformly taught throughout the country,
    and the early music for hambo was primarily taken from the music played
    for polskas in and around Rattvik parish in Dalarna. More recently, new
    music has been written specifically for this dance.
    
    Folk costumes were worn by peasants at least in the 1700's and 1800's. 
    Folkdrakter from these periods are preserved for study at many
    locations around Sweden, and are on display in a few of those
    locations.  The costume that I am copying (including the detail of the
    hand-stitching) is Brunskogs museum in Varmland and dates from the late
    1700's.  It belonged to a woodsman and farmer (not someone from the
    upper classes) and is typical of the folkdrakter preserved from
    northern Varmland and western Dalarna.  The preserved costumes range
    from every-day peasant clothes (today's equivalent would be blue jeans)
    to "Sunday best".  Then as now, fancier clothes were saved for Sunday,
    weddings, funerals, etc.  These fancier costumes are the ones generally
    displayed in museums, but they were still peasant costumes, not the
    costumes of wealthy nobles as suggested by Mats.
    
    Mats is perhaps thinking of the folk costumes that were popular in
    Sweden at the end of the 1800's and in the early 1900's during a period
    when city Swedes rediscovered the quaint beauty and folk traditions in
    the province of Dalarna.  Many folk costumes during that time were made
    up and not based on the peasant costumes. Every area of Sweden that did
    not have extant folk costumes invented them at the time, but many of
    these were totally fantasy and not based on old examples from the
    peasantry.  However, they were still an attempt at preserving and
    fostering a folk tradition.
    
    Although the church tried to squash these traditions twice in the
    1800's, they did survive in some regions.  Dalarna was one such region,
    and after all it was the peasants of Dalarna under the leadership of
    Gustav Vasa who around 1520 finally freed Sweden of her suppressive
    Danish overlords.
    
    The good news is that there are [a] few who research and study the folk
    arts on their own or in small groups, and there are schools where one
    can go and actually study them!
       
    Michael Palmer