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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:603
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404.0. "Weekend in OSLO for a grouptravel" by STKHLM::SALGO (Magnus S�lg�,SWAS Telecom,Sweden) Tue Jul 17 1990 18:05

    A friend is going to travel to Oslo in the end of August during a
    weekend. They are a group of 30 persons in the age of 22-45.

    Do you have some suggestions of a program of what they can to between
    Saturday morning to Sunday lunch. 

    Sightseeings

    Meals

    Nightplaces

    Shopping

    Museums

    Thanks in advance

    Regards
    Magnus
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404.1Here's a running start...MLTVAX::SAVAGENeil @ Spit BrookWed Jul 18 1990 10:1535
    Sightseeing:               
    
    	City Hall - also a good place to inquire about city tours and
    		scheduled events.
    
    	Vigeland Sculpture Park
    
    	Holmenkollen ski jump - overviews of the city and Oslofjord; has
    		ski museum
    
    Shopping and meals:
    	
    	Karl Johansgate - the city's main street, linking the central railway
    	station and royal castle
    
    Museums:
    
    	* at suburb of Bygd�y [if you do nothing else GO HERE!]
    
    		Viking Ships - [see Note 12.5]
    
    		Folk - open air, more that 170 buildings, earliest is
    			re-assembled stave church built about 1200 A.D.
    
    		Fram - Nansen's and Amundsen's polar exploration ship
    
    		Kon-tiki - rafts used by Thor Heyerdahl to explore Pacific
    
    	Edvard Munch - paintings, sculptures, and other effects of the
    		artist
    
    	National Gallery - principal art collection
    
    [Someone else will have to help with nightplaces, I've always been a
     morning person.]
404.2Norwegian Armed Forces MuseumCHARLT::SAVAGEMon Sep 10 1990 12:1728
    From: [email protected] (Mark Knutsen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Recommendations?
    Keywords: Oslo
    Date: 31 Aug 90 19:48:13 GMT
    Organization: NJ InterCampus Network, New Brunswick, N.J.
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Louis Janus)
    writes:
 
  > In Oslo...
  > More off the beaten path is the resistance museum, down near Akershus slott,
  > near the City Hall.
 
    Actually, in terms of popularity, the resistance museum is just as much
    on the beaten path as for instance Frogner Park and the Viking ships
    museum are.  More off the beaten path would be the Defense Museum
    (a.k.a. the Norwegian Armed Forces Museum), also at Akershus. This
    building contains a huge array of displays, dioramas, and actual
    military equipment from Norway's pre-history through the second World
    War.  I still can't figure out how they fit the planes inside...

    -- 

    Mark (Recently returned from Norway) Knutsen, the juggling,
    piano-playing, unemployed software engineer from Rutgers.
    [email protected] OR [email protected] OR
    {...}!rutgers!knutsen
404.3Rail linksTLE::SAVAGEFri Dec 07 1990 12:4872
    From: [email protected] (Soren Lundsgaard)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Oslo crosstown railway link?
    Date: 6 Dec 90 16:33:19 GMT
    Organization: Mathematics, UI Urbana-Champaign
 
    The linking together of the east and west train stations:
 
    A tunnel under Oslo.
 
    If you get a map of Oslo and the region around it, you will be able to
    see why the train was set up the way it was.  Trains from Sweden came
    from the east, and trains to Stavanger came from the west. Apparently,
    it was not feasible to make a train station through the center of the
    capital, although they had made a subway as early as the 20's.
 
    You will also notice on this map, a peninsula just south of the main
    downtown area.  There were some tracks around this little peninsula,
    primarily for freight, since the docks were there.  Remnants of these
    tracks can still be seen.  I do not know if the tracks went all the way
    to the east station, but they certainly originated at the west station.
 
    The west station is going to be closed, or already is.  A nearby
    shopping complex (Aker Brygge, I believe) will certainly raise the
    value of this real estate.  I hope that they turn the west station into
    something nice, since it is close to the Palace, and to the American
    Embassy (-;  Talk was of a recreation park or something grand like
    that.
 
    The east station is now called the central station.  Trains to moscow
    still originate here.  I am sure you can continue on to beijing, or
    even shanghei. . .  The central station is a new expansion of the still
    standing old east station building, built above the east entry to the
    tunnel.  It is fun to sit in the east station waiting for a train, and
    feel a freight train rumble by underneath.
 
    Oslo has also, within the last five years, had its east and west
    subways joined.  There were a number of technical (and as a result,
    financial) difficulties with this job.  I do not know why this was,
    since they had already completed the rail tunnel, and should have known
    about the geology at that point.  They are also building a automobile
    tunnel under oslo because the bypass (ringveien) is overloaded with
    traffic.
 
    Oslo probably suffers the same complex that Washington DC does, being
    the capital, having to show off its modern public transportation
    facilities.
 
    Sorry this was so verbose, out of date, and not germane to your
    question.
 
    Someone who lives in oslo may be able to give more information.  I was
    going mail this, but decided that it might be interesting for others
    who have or have not been to Oslo.
 
    skl

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    From: [email protected] (Hans Henrik Eriksen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Oslo crosstown railway link?
    Date: 7 Dec 90 12:26:16 GMT
    Organization: Institutt for informatikk, Universitetet i Oslo
 
    If I'm not terribly mistaken, the old railroad station "Vestbanen" is
    to be the new home of the National Opera, as its current locations are
    to small.  The railroad building was chosen for its old, nice facade
    and its short distance to the City Hall, the National Theatre, the
    King's Palace and the Parliament (downtown Oslo isn't that big :-)
 
						Hans Henrik Eriksen
						[email protected]
404.4We're paying for itOSL09::MAURITZDTN(at last!)872-0238; @NWOThu Dec 13 1990 11:5620
    re .2; remark on up-dating entry,
    
    The motorway under the city was completed some time ago (before summer,
    I seem to recall). We are all now paying for it through tolls of NOK
    10,- charged for all driving into the city (THAT started in Feb of this
    year).
    
    The main benefit of this tunnel is to remove a great evil from the
    surface: Through-town east-west traffic and all that polution, from a
    part of the city that COULD be a real pearl, "Old Christiania",
    containing well over 120 buildings from the 1600's. You couldn't spot
    any charm here, though; all facades caked with layers of polution-
    created dirt; a never ending 3-4 lane stream of cars; etc. 
    
    Now, if this part of the city is "managed" right, we might have
    something akin to Stockholm's "Gamla Stan" in about 10 years or so
    (that's my hope).
    
    Mauritz
    
404.5"Sinnataggen" stolen from the Vigeland parkTLE::SAVAGEFri Jan 03 1992 09:3931
    From: [email protected] (Erik Boman)            
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: "Sinnataggen" stolen
    Date: 2 Jan 92 12:43:26 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (Bergen University Newsaccount)
    Organization: Institute of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway
 
    More shocking news from Norway : On New Year's Eve the famous sculpture
    "Sinnataggen" (Angry Boy) was stolen from the Vigeland park
    (Frognerparken) !
 
    Sinnataggen is one of Gustaf Vigeland's most beloved sculptures and the
    little boy is considered a national mascot by the Norwegians. I would
    say that this crime is comparable to the theft of  "Den lille havfrue"
    (The little mermaid) in Copenhagen many years ago.
 
    So far the police has no clues. The thieves must have used a chainsaw
    to cut the bronze statue, vandalizing the masterpiece by cutting right
    through the boy's leg. The crime was dicovered by a young couple at 4
    AM on their way home from a New Year's party. Of course, the police
    initially thought it was a joke when they called ...
 
    The Vigeland Museum has kept the original moulds for the statue, so it
    is quite easy to make a copy. But let us hope that the culprits
    reconsider and bring Sinnataggen back ! After all, it is almost
    impossible to sell such a well known piece of art.
 
   -- 
   Erik Boman 
   University of Bergen
   email: [email protected]                          
404.6Sinnataggen recoveredTLE::SAVAGETue Jan 14 1992 10:2231
    From: [email protected] (Cindy Kandolf)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Sinnataggen update
    Date: 13 Jan 92 13:20:31 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (NetNews Administrator)
    Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway
 
    According to this morning's newspapers, Sinnataggen ("Angry Young
    Man"), the statue which disappeared from Frogner Park in Oslo New
    Year's Eve night, has been found.  The little feller is in good
    condition, except for the amputated foot.... 
 
    The statue was found abandoned in a parking lot after an anonymous tip.
    The police don't have any leads yet but intend to search the statue 
    thoroughly for fingerprints &c.
 
    Some version of the Sinnataggen statue will be put in the place where
    the old one was stolen from, but the city government agency responsible
    for the park isn't sure whether they'll put the original there or a
    copy.  However, even if the original is moved to a safer place it will
    be available for the public to see.
 
    If they do catch the person/people who swiped the statue, i'd recommend
    they be made to clean up the park after some nice, warm summer day when
    lots of people have been visiting.  This should of course include being
    required to clean all the bird droppings of _ALL_ the statues <sinister
    grin>
 
    -Cindy Kandolf
     [email protected]
     Trondheim, Norway
404.7City namesTLE::SAVAGEMon Jul 06 1992 10:2444
    From: [email protected] (Anders Christensen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Name of Oslo
    Date: 3 Jul 92 02:30:23 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (NetNews Administrator)
    Organization: /home/flipper/anders/.organization
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
    (Norm Strong) writes:
 
    Didn't they use to call Oslo something else, like Cristiana, or
    something?  
 
    Yes, it was called Christiania until 1923 (?) when it changed name to
    Oslo. "Oslo" means "The delta of the river Lo", and Lo is the (small)
    river running through Oslo ("Os" is Norwegian for "small delta".)
    Actually, "Oslo" was the original name of the city, but when it burnt
    down in 16?? it was moved closer to the Akershus fortress to improve
    security in case of war, and renamed after King Christian IV.
 
    By the way, in 1923 two additional cities were renamed, Bergen became
    "Bj�rgvin" and Trondhjem became "Nidaros". Both these names reflexed 
    the old original names, but due to numerous protests, the new names
    were abandoned. However, "Trondhjem" became "Trondheim", to reflect the
    new (radical) spelling.  
 
    -anders

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    From: [email protected] (Anders Christensen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Name of Oslo
    Date: 3 Jul 92 21:00:01 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (NetNews Administrator)
    Organization: /home/flipper/anders/.organization
 
 
    According to the encyclopedia "Store Norske", Oslo was named
    "Christiania" in 1624. The spelling was later changed to "Kristiania";
    in governmental use ("matrikkel og statskalender") in 1877; and the new
    spelling was used from 1897 in the 'county' of Oslo itself ("kommunale
    etater").  The name "Oslo" has been official since Jan 1st 1925.
 
    -anders
404.8Re: .3 &.4: Tunnel closed for bicycle raceTLE::SAVAGETue Aug 24 1993 15:2729
    From: [email protected] (JOHN WILKINSON)
    Newsgroups: clari.sports.misc,clari.news.europe
    Subject: U.S. women, German men, favorites for world team time trial
    Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 8:45:21 PDT
 
	OSLO (UPI) -- The United States, the defending champion, is the last
of 14 countries to start in Wednesday's 50-kilometer women's team time
trial at the world cycling championships.
	The U.S. quartet shows one change from the formation which scored a
first-ever win in Spain last year, Dede Demet replacing now-retired
Bunke Davis and joining Eve Stephenson, Jan Bolland and Jeanne Golay.
	The race starts in the center of Oslo, passing through the Oslo
Tunnel 45 meters below the sea, and follows a 25km (15.5 miles) stretch
of the E18 motorway -- Norway's busiest road -- which, for the first time,
will be closed for the day.
	The men's championship, over 100 kilometers (62.1 miles), takes place
afterwards with Olympic champion Germany the seeded favorite.
	Bernd Dittert, now assistant coach to the amateur road team, is
replaced by Andreas Walzer as the one change from Barcelona.
	The U.S. will not be represented after the national team put together
by coach Jiri Mainus failed to beat a tough selection standard of two
hours.
	The future of the time trial has been discussed by the sport's
governing body, the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI), at meetings in
Oslo this week.
	Organizers of the cycling program at the Olympic Games in Atlanta in
1996 want the event replaced by a mountain bike race and the UCI is
under pressure to remove it from future world championships.
 mp-skxmi
404.9Article: "Summer in Oslo"TLE::SAVAGETue Jun 27 1995 10:5725
    From: [email protected] (Ruth M. Sylte)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic,alt.fan.mike-jittlov
    Subject: _National Geographic Traveler_ article on "Summer in Oslo"
    Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:23:16
    Organization: University of California, Irvine
 
    Readers might be interested to see the July/August 1995  issue of
    _National Geographic Traveler_ magazine. It features a beautiful 
    article on "Summer in Oslo" by Bill Bryson.
 
    As an aside, one of Bryson's best known books, _Neither Here Nor There: 
    Travels in Europe_, begins with an account of his trip to Hammerfest in
    the dead of winter to see the northern lights. It's a story not to be
    missed...   The book also includes priceless looks at his travels to
    Oslo, Copenhagen,  Gothenburg, and Stockholm (not to mention a whole
    host of other European  cities).
 
    It's one of the funniest "tourist's views" of Europe I've ever read.
    I'm  thankful to the s.c.ner who introduced this gem to me. :)
 
   -----
   Ruth M. Sylte         [email protected] |
     Center for International Education  | "If you think education is
      University of California, Irvine   |    expensive, try ignorance."
        Irvine, CA  92717-2476  USA      |
404.10More things to doTLE::SAVAGEMon Jan 27 1997 14:4051
    From: [email protected] (hall robert)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Trip to Oslo
    Date: 24 Jan 1997 12:44:09 -0500
    Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County
 
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dagfinn Senturia <[email protected]> wrote:

  >Hi there.  I'm a college student at the Ohio State University who's
  >planning to go to Oslo in mid-March for about a week.  As to accomodations,
  >those have been pretty much arranged.  If anybody had any tips about things
  >to do, what to see, and general travel info about Norway, please send them
  >to
 
    There's a TV broadcasting tower at the edge of Nordmarka. I can't
    remember the name, but it's worth the fee to go to the top and have  a
    look. It was a little hazy the day I went up, but on a clear day I 
    think you can see Gaustatoppen.
 
    Take a boat tour in Oslofjorden. I don't know if they're available in
    March, but in the summer the islands are beautiful. One of the
    prettiest spots is not on the tours. There's a group of islands along
    the fjord's eastern shore that form a little natural harbor, south of
    the railyards. I think I like the view there as well as  anything the
    king gets to see on the west side.
 
    Take a walk down Karl Johan. Stop at a konditori and have a coffee and
    pastry. Walk south and wander around around Akershus festning. Walk
    north. There's nothing particular to see, but everything seems just a
    little odd to an American. Used clothing stores having seasonal sales.
    A large store that seems devoted entirely to baby carriages. Used
    bookstores where the price is always lower than marked. (I suspect this
    is part of a negotiating game, but I don't know the rules.)
 
    If you have the chance, take a bus tour in Telemark. Don't ask why, 
    just go.
 
    Next time I go back, I think the first thing I'll do is spend a couple
    of hours looking at the sky and watching the light. I had no idea how
    polluted the air is here in Maryland until I visited Norway.
 
    Oh yeah, I almost forgot. "Ekte snoerrunger bruker Ovetrin." It's
    amazing what you learn in railway stations and subway cars. "Eg kjenner
    ingen beinvegar. Selv fanden leser Bibelen. Men foerst en linje om
    kamelen, et lite stykke Norge." Ah, it's all beginning to run
    together... :)
 
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