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Conference turris::scandia

Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:603
Total number of notes:4325

386.0. ""Enger" name origin?" by OSL09::MAURITZ (DTN(at last!)872-0238; @NWO) Wed Apr 18 1990 08:53

    Before this conference was moved to PAGODA there was an entry from
    someone named Enger (I believe from Colorado); I don't remember
    his first name. This entry, and my reply to it, were lost in the
    move & never recovered.
    
    While scanning some old files I found my answer to ... Enger's request
    for information about the origin of his name. As it is of some length
    I thought htat I would rejuvinate this entry (an answer without
    the question) by REPLYing the file into a new base note (That way
    I can also delete this file from my directory with a good conscience).
                                                                          
    If you are out there, -- Enger, please acknowledge receipt.
    
    Regards
    
    Mauritz
    
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    Interesting that you should bring up the last name issue.
    
    My intention a few weeks ago was to formulate a REPLY to the Swedish
    naming convention not, as the Norwegian ones give a slightly different
    flavour to it. Now I have forgotten which base note the comment
    was made, but I suppose this answer to you must also be considered
    a REPLY to the one we are talking about.
    
    First of all, what is said about patronymics (-son, -sen) is generally
    true for all of Scandinavia; Iceland still uses them exclusively,
    i.e., they do not have the concept of "family names" at all. (The
    Reykjavik telephone directory is sorted alphabetically by FIRST
    name).
    
    Where the situation differes from the afore mentioned note with
    regard to Norway, is in the non-patronymic type names: to wit, here
    these are NOT solely the result of either a) aristocratic heritage
    or b) formation of "artificial" family names in the last century
    from occupations, etc. (S�ren Kirkegaard (Churchyard/graveyard)
    being an example of the latter). A very large portion of our names
    are a category c) Place names of the family farm (and these can
    be small plots indeed).
    
    The interesting thing about these farm names is that they are (at
    least some of them) incredibly old; in some cases they go back to
    the bronze age. (Incredibly, but there has been some very thorough
    research on this; though space & time hinders a full rendition of
    background, evidence, etc.). Old farm names are the oldest verbal
    "history" that we have in Norway. Their types and composite parts
    can give clues as to when they came into being, and even what "social
    status" these farms had in the early iron age (for us, prehistoric
    period).
    
    Regretably for your personal purposes, Enger is not an uncommon
    name. I just looked it up in the Oslo phone book and there are two
    full columns of Engers (+ one column of Eng's) there. In addition,
    there are a number of names with the Eng- prefix. The good news
    with regard to your name is that it may indicate high social status
    in the early iron age. I shall explain (very briefly):
    
    (Again, regrettably) your type name does NOT (most old ones do not)
    have a specific regional origin. (contrast this with Walter Mondale,
    whoose family comes from Mundal, a very specific place). The word
    "eng" means "meadow" in modern Norwegian; though I am not sure that
    it had exactly that meaning in pre- old Norse. Assuming, however,
    that it was similar, this would be a typical name for the early
    agricultural period, and would indicate the name of a peice of land
    with favourable growing (possibly more pastoral) conditions. As
    agriculture spread in the iron age, and as forest was cleared and
    land settled, the names (all over the country) trace a clear pattern
    of the nature of the specific farm-land. Examples -vin and -heim
    suffixes are the oldest; both indicating very good and easily
    accessible farm land in the pre old Norse language, implicit theat
    the land did not have to be cleared---therefore typically the first
    (and best) farms in a given area. I would see the Eng name in such
    a context, though I will look it up to see if I can find something
    more on it. Examples of later names are those with a suffix -rud,
    which commes from "ryddet", i.e., "cleared" (for settlement/farming);
    these would be somewhat less favourable farm plots, having been
    cleared for trees in the 0-500 AD period, when iron tools to do
    the job were available. (i.e., your name could go back into the
    BC period). There are lots of other examples of even lower status,
    where a suffix can indicate a tenant-farmer status, etc.
    
    Now, when all this is said, it must be noted that these origins
    I speak of are very old; a caveat to be remembered is that the original
    social status of way back has no relation to later social status;
    certainly not today's. In most cases, probably not the last century
    either, though in very many cases, sizes of farms and their basic
    growing conditions could relate to the names even in modern times.
    
    I'll take a furhter look in my books at leisure and report the results.
    
    
    

    Mauritz