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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:603
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366.0. "Danger of violent crime " by MLTVAX::SAVAGE (Neil @ Spit Brook) Thu Oct 12 1989 10:43

    From: [email protected] (Thomas Sj�land)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Dangers in Europe (Sweden)
    Date: 11 Oct 89 19:32:25 GMT
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista

    From an American perspective the crime situation in a city like
    Stockholm (capital of Sweden, Scandinavia, Northern Europe) is probably
    a joke but living here I must say I have on several occasions been
    quite happy that we do not have the liberal weapons laws that the US
    has. Innocent people now and then get kicked down and stabbed with
    machetes for no other reason than that they happened to be in the wrong
    place at the wrong time.

    Sometimes the reason is that look too much like an unwanted southern
    immigrant and sometimes because they look too "Swedish" to a gang of
    frustrated immigrant youth who watched too many karate movies or
    something. A gang war over drugs seems almost rational and therefore
    sort of less frightening to someone who wants to avoid being the victim
    of the frustrations of these unnecessary and uneducated individuals. I
    mean, the drug gangs would not attack you because you happen to have
    the wrong bend on your nose, would they ?

    Serious suggestions are made to forbid the carrying of knifes in public
    without a permit, and having seen the lack of control in some of the
    youth in the subway I tend to agree. I dont want to support ideas of
    banning "violent" videofilms and movies, though, since I think the
    problem of sloppy upbringing and nonexistent moral judgement is not
    solved through censorship. Typical of the situation is that the schools
    have problems keeping qualified teachers and at the same time sclerotic
    politicians (mostly of the socialist brand) fight the teachers
    righteous demand for decent salaries and instead try to force them to
    spend more time in the schools as a "police" force.

    What is happening to post modern society ? Are we witnessing the
    undirected protests of those that our computer revolution make unneeded
    as anything but consumers ?

    I remember seeing Kubricks "Clockwork Orange" in 1972 and thinking it
    was good fiction, but luckily highly unrealistic...

    --
    Thomas Sj�land
    SICS, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
    Tel: +46 8 752 15 42    Ttx: 812 61 54 SICS S   Fax: +46 8 751 72 30
    Internet: [email protected] or {mcvax,munnari,ukc,unido}!enea!sics.se!alf

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    From: [email protected] (Jonny Axelsson)
    Subject: Re: Danger in Europe (Oslo)
    Date: 12 Oct 89 04:29:18 GMT

    My experience from walking through all (central) parts of Oslo at night
    the last 13 years is ignore the drug groups (unless you look
    rich&vulnerable in which case you may get robbed, in worst case mugged)

    The high risk hassle factors are:
    1. a group (5-10 persons)
    2. of young (17-25)
    3. out-of-town (hard to see for non-natives I admit)
    4. males (or mostly males) who are                                     
    5. drunk (but not drunk enough to have the decency to pass out).
    6. anywhere (but the situation may more easily get ugly in deserted streets)

    The situation won't get *dangerous* unless you
    1. "don't look right" (i.e. dark skinned or punkish) and
    2. are real unlucky

    This is in Oslo. Small towns may be worse (and I believe Stockholm to
    be a lot rougher). When it comes to rape, the usual precautions are in
    effect (they are rare, but do happen). Random violence is not common.
    Theft is. You can go safe out at night (if you do get mugged, sue me).
    In those aforementioned 13 years out at night I have *never* seen a
    violent situation (except btw "friends"), but I've seen many
    bothersome.

    What *is* troubling though, is that there seems to be an increase in
    race influenced violence (including gang warfare, and a atrocious
    incidence recently where two pakistani were unmotivatedly stabbed to
    death (by a Pole, don't know if that was significant, anyway there were
    two Norwegians urging him on) at Karl Johan, the main street of Oslo).

    Jonny Axelsson
    Oslo
    Norway         
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366.1Youth attacking parliament buildingNEILS::SAVAGEMon Apr 09 1990 11:3926
    From: [email protected] (Thomas Sj�land)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Date: 6 Apr 90 12:02:15 GMT
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
 
    . . .
     
    Here in Stockholm, we have recently had groups of a few hundred leftist
    anarchist youth attacking the parliament building smashing windows and
    the like and also at other occasions violently trying to prevent a
    pathetic group of 30 anti-refugee demonstrators. 
    
    A currently hotly debated issue is whether the police should be
    punished for having made collective arrests in order to sort out these
    situations. Arresting individuals on the basis that they happended to
    be at the site where a violent situation occurred, is obviously not
    accepted in a modern democracy (or at least should not be).
 
 
    --
    Thomas Sjoeland
    SICS, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
    Tel: +46 8 752 15 42	Ttx: 812 61 54 SICS S	Fax: +46 8 751 72 30
    Internet: [email protected] 
    .......
    Ta't lugnt Goesta, jag har hans personnummer...
366.2Weapons that Swedish police carryNEILS::SAVAGEMon Sep 24 1990 14:0132
    From: [email protected] (Robert Lindh)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Law Enforcement in Scandinavia
    Date: 18 Sep 90 18:48:30 GMT
    Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
 
    A uniformed swedish police on duty is armed with an automatic pistol.
    It used to be a Walther pistol, but I think they recently replaced them
    with some other (german) pistol. The plain-clothes ones are not always
    armed (one investigating a burglary at the place I work was not armed
    when he arrived to investigate the scene of the crime).
 
    Bullet-proof wests, helmets and sub-machine guns are available to the
    police but are seldom used. One example when they was seen was when a
    bank robbery at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm failed and the robber took
    hostages from the bank customers and the bank employees. (The robber
    gave up after several days of negotiations with the police.)
 
    Standard disclaimer: "Only my personal opinion, of course."

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    From: [email protected] (Christer Palm)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Law Enforcement in Scandinavia
    Date: 19 Sep 90 06:34:34 GMT
    Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
 
    The Walter pistol is replaced by Sig Sauer P225 and Sig Sauer P226. The
    P225 pistol is for the standard patrol and the P226 is for special
    traind police men type SWAT Team.
 
    /Christer
366.3Pit bulls in DenmarkTLE::SAVAGEThu Jun 13 1991 15:1540
    From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.interest.animals,
	clari.news.europe,clari.news.law.crime.violent
    Subject: Pit bull kills dog, bites two guests, survives three bullets
    Date: 12 Jun 91 22:09:38 GMT
 
 
	COPENHAGEN, Denmark (UPI) -- An enraged pit bull terrier bit two
people, mauled two dogs to death and was shot three times before police
finally killed the animal Wednesday.
	"It was hit three times by our officers but still managed to keep on
going and escape," a police spokesman at Karlslunde, Denmark, told
reporters. "But we were finally able to put it down."
	He said the canine drama began late Tuesday when the dog bit a guest
at a private dinner party and attacked, killed and refused to release a
Pomeranian dog owned by another guest.
	After the incident the owner decided to have the dog put to sleep
immediately by a veterinary surgeon. On his way to the animal hospital,
the man decided to visit a public bar, tying his pit bull -- with the
tiny Pomeranian clamped tightly in its jaws -- outside.
	Worried passers-by called police to report the pit bull devouring
another dog. But before police arrived, the owner had left the pub,
changed his mind about putting his pet to sleep and tried to take its
leash.
	The dog, however, turned on him, biting him in the arm causing him to
drop the leash. The animal fled into the night.
	The police spokesman said officers detected the animal on two
occasions over the following two hours, and had shot the dog three times
with service pistols.
	"But it just kept on going," the spokesman said.
	The dog was finally brought down an hour later when rescue service
personnel discovered the maimed canine and killed it with a hunting
shotgun.
	Denmark is considering a ban on the introduction of dangerous dogs
into the country, following action to be taken against pit bulls by
British authorities as a result of several attacks by pit bull terriers
against children.
	"We want to see how Britain handles the problem first, in particular
the problem of how to handle crossbreeds," said Danish Justice Ministry
spokesman Kasper Linkis Wednesday.
366.4Stockholm's rougher neighborhoodsTLE::SAVAGEFri Nov 22 1991 15:5327
    From: [email protected] (Dolfo Iraggi)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Shootings in Stockholm 
    Date: 22 Nov 91 11:28:21 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
 
> - It is common for people to shoot Arabs with rifles from apartment
> - windows on the streets of Stockholm.
 
 
    The first incident of the laser-rifle shootings was in front of my
    dormitory. It was the first time that I felt a little bit unsafe in
    Stockholm and after 4 more incidents, including two murders, I feel a
    little bit unsafe in the dark around dormitories. However, apart from
    that, I feel extremely safe in Stockholm and I think Stockholm is one
    of the safest cities I've ever been. I can easily walk home from almost
    everywhere in the city by myself after having been out. Although locals
    keep on telling me I shouldn't hang around Medborgplatsen by myself.
    Also Tensta, Rinkeby, Alkalla etc. are supposed to be the not so good
    neighbourhoods, but I guess it is said so because there are a lot of
    foreigners are living there.
 
    Maybe if I try to read Expressen and Aftonbladet I would start feeling
    more unsafe.
 
    dolfo
366.5Crime statisticsTLE::SAVAGEMon Dec 02 1991 11:0373
    From: [email protected] (Dolfo Iraggi)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Date: 29 Nov 91 10:49:30 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
 
    The source is  NORDIC CRIMINAL STATISTICS 1950-1980(86)

    The statistics were compiled from Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden
    in a joint Nordic effort conducted under the auspices of the Nordic
    Committee on Criminal Statistics (NUK).
 
 
    MURDER:  (reported offences,  completed crimes only!)
 
         absolute figures                       Per 100.000 Pop   (15 - 67)
         DK      N       S       F              DK      N       S       F 
      ********************************       ********************************
1980     77     31     135     111             2.2    1.1     2.4     3.3
1981     81     27     146     107             2.3    1.0     2.6     3.2
1982     66     47     125     107             1.9    1.7     2.2     3.1
1983     71     38     121     114             2.0    1.3     2.1     3.3
1984     60     41     116     107             1.7    1.4     2.1     3.1 
1985     78     37     126     117             2.2    1.3     2.2     3.4 
1986     64     37     147     143             1.8    1.3     2.6     4.1
 
   NOTE: - In Finland the "assaults resulting in death" were *removed* in 1970
           while in Sweden the "assaults resulting in death" were *added* in
           1975. The effect is that the reported crime level for Finland
           is *underestimated* and that for Sweden is *overestimated*
 
         - In Sweden, about 16 per cent of the persons who were *suspected*
           of completed homicides during the period 1980-1985 were citizens
           of other Nordic countries, primarily Finland.
 
 
ROBBERY:   (reported offences)
 
         absolute figures                       Per 100.000 Pop   (15 - 67)
         DK      N       S       F              DK      N       S       F 
      ********************************       ********************************
1980  1,461    317   3,427   1,869            42.0   11.4    61.1    55.5
1981  1,651    395   3,228   1,828            47.2   14.1    57.4    53.9
1982  1,410    408   3,530   1.763            40.2   14.6    62.6    51.7
1983  1,529    530   3,473   1,604            43.4   18.8    61.5    46.7
1984  1,819    568   3,681   1,509            51.6   19.9    65.1    43.8
1985  1,834    657   3,851   1,532            51.9   23.4    67.9    44.3
1986  1,812    604   3,806   1,584            51.0   21.2    66.9    45.7
 
 
  GENERAL NOTE: - The Swedish data tends to be higher than in other countries.
                - The Norwegian data are in general lower than in other
                  countries.
                - Denmark and Finland lie somewhere between Sweden and Norway.
 
 
 
    According to Nordic living conditions surveys, a remarkable large
    proportion of Finnish woman harbour fears about violence outside of the
    home (all forms of violence, not only rape).
 
                        
                         DK      N       S       F
                      ********************************
Men        20-65 years    5      2       3       4
 
Women      20-64 years   29     12      18      48
 
  of which 20-24 years   28     17      15      53
           55-64 years   36     13      27      49
 
 
  For Norway the ages are  16-66, 16-24, 45-66
366.6Justice in Sweden and DenmarkTLE::SAVAGEFri May 01 1992 11:5942
    From: [email protected] (Lars Peter Fischer)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Two criminal cases in Sweden
    Date: 1 May 92 03:19:14 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (UseNet News)
    Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
 
 >>>>> "Mats" == Mats Winberg ([email protected])
 
 Mats>      Two small-time criminals and junkies doing time in a small
 Mats>      prison near Lindome (near Gothenburg) discovered that an old
 Mats>      man was living by himself in a house nearby. They decided to
 Mats>      break in and rob the 89-year old man, when they were released
 Mats>      from prison. They did exactly that, but during the break-in
 Mats>      someone or both beat the old man to death with a frying pan.
 Mats>      The police did their job and apprehended the two. They both blamed
 Mats>      the killing on each other and since there was no technical evidence
 Mats>      against anyone of them, they both walked free after the
 Mats>      district-court hearings.
 
    Looks like Sweden, like Denmark, does not have "collective punishment".
    I a very famous case here a few years here a number of bank robbers
    shot at the police from their escape car and killed a policeman. The
    court was able to decide who was in the car, but since it could not be
    proved who had the gun, no-one was convicted of murder (they robbed
    quite a number of banks so they went to prison the lot, anyway).
 
 Mats> So he armed himself with a shotgun and went to the junkie he
 Mats> thought was behind the thefts to get his stolen property back.
 Mats> During the argument a shot was fired and the junkie was dead.
 Mats> The shop owner claimed that it was a mistake just as the
 Mats> offender in case II). Well that didn't help him, he was
 Mats> sentenced to - 8 years in prison.
 
    "Taking justice in your own hands" is in general considered a very
    serious crime. This is so in order to guard the justice system and
    preventing society from degenerating into anarchy.
 
  /Lars
  --
  Lars Fischer, [email protected] | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
  CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
366.7Device exploded outside restaurantTLE::SAVAGEFri May 08 1992 13:0717
    From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.disaster,
	clari.news.europe
    Subject: Explosion outside Jewish-owned restaurant
    Date: Thu, 7 May 92 8:35:41 PDT
 
	STOCKHOLM, Sweden (UPI) -- A small bomb exploded outside a Jewish-
owned restaurant in central Stockholm Thursday causing some damage but
no injuries, a police spokesman said.
	The spokesman said a device exploded on the pavement outside
Restaurant Aquavit shortly after 4 a.m. Thursday morning, shattering
windows in the block, and damaging the restaurant facade.
	"No one has claimed responsibility," the Stockholm police
spokesman.
	A reception had been planned at the restaurant Friday to celebrate
Israel's independence day, but it was unclear whether the function would
still take place at the restaurant.
366.8Deplorable behavior of beer-drinking UK soccer fansTLE::SAVAGEMon Jun 15 1992 13:2645
    From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: clari.news.lifestyle,clari.news.law.crime.violent,
	clari.news.europe,clari.tw.nuclear,clari.news.gov.international
    Subject: Soccer melee -- 'It simply looks like a war zone'
    Date: Sun, 14 Jun 92 15:26:26 PDT
 
	MALMO, Sweden (UPI) -- England's notorious soccer fans pelted police
in riot gear with bottles and chairs and smashed cars early Sunday,
delivering the first violent blows at the European Championships.
	Police said the mayhem in downtown Malmo, site of England's goalless
draw with France Sunday, left nine people arrested and at least 27
injured. Two police officers were taken to a hospital.
	"The football war has broken out," a witness said. "It simply
looks like a war zone."
	The violence brought an apology from David Mellor, Britain's minister
responsible for sport. He told a news conference he had expressed his
regrets, both orally and in a letter to the Swedish authorities.
	"It was a nasty incident and let's hope it was an isolated incident,
" he said. "It was a scar undoubtedly on what has become the better
reputation of English fans....
	"It was quite clear that the people of Malmo had put themselves out
to welcome the English fans, but they should not be paid back in this
fashion. The fans have behaved disgracefully. Why is it that they always
choose to behave disgracefully when it makes the maximum possible
impact?"
	Police added that Swedes and a group of Lebanese were involved in the
several hours of fighting. In Copenhagen, Denmark, a 30-minute ferry
trip from Malmo, police said 12 Englishmen were arrested early Sunday
for disturbing the peace.
	The brawl in Malmo started at midnight at a municipal beer tent
catering to the several thousand English fans in town. According to
police, the brawl was unprovoked.
	"The police did nothing to excite them," a policeman said. "We
didn't even take action with those who were drunk."
	Mellor, who arrived in Malmo Saturday, emphasized it was the idea of
Swedish officials to set up the beer tents.
	"We expressed serious reservations at the time," he said. "If it
had been left to us, we would not have had it."
	Twenty police officers in riot gear were bombarded with bottles and
chairs when they tried to quiet a noisy gathering of drunken fans. At
one point, some 300 police were on the scene. The rampaging fans set a
motorcycle ablaze and smashed several cars. A British television crew
had its cameras broken when the fans discovered they were being filmed.
	"It was a deplorable incident and the footage shows that it was a
very unpleasant thing for all of us," Mellor said.
366.9Stockholm tooTLE::SAVAGEFri Jun 19 1992 10:5840
    From: [email protected] (JOHN SALVADO, UPI Sports Writer)
    Newsgroups: clari.news.lifestyle,clari.news.europe,clari.news.law.crime
    Subject: Police try to keep rival fans apart
    Date: Wed, 17 Jun 92 18:39:45 PDT
 
	STOCKHOLM (UPI) -- Swedish police endeavored to keep rival English and
Swedish soccer fans apart Wednesday night after the host country
eliminated England from the European Championships.
	Police in riot gear congregated around the central train station to
escort English fans onto a special soccer train taking them to the port
of Helsingborg.
	Sweden's 2-1 defeat of England bounced the English out of the
tournament and local police appeared to be concerned mainly with keeping
rival groups of fans apart in an effort to prevent violence, rather than
conducting mass arrests.
	The train was scheduled to depart at 11.55 p.m. but it eventually
left more than an hour late after a number of fans were rounded up in
buses from the beer tent erected especially for the 17-day soccer
tournament.
	Malcolm George, the senior British policeman in Sweden responsible
for soccer-related incidents, confirmed Tuesday that English fans had
officially been banned from the beer tent.
	Shop windows were smashed in the city center by English and Swedish
fans roaming the streets in the wee hours after the conclusion of the
match at the Rasunda Stadium in the Stockholm suburb of Solna.
	Trouble flared when some 150 English youths clashed with a larger
number of Swedes in one of the city's main squares.
	Detachments from the 1,800-strong police contingent appeared intent
on keeping the rival supporters apart where possible to prevent violent
flashpoints.
	Trouble also erupted immediately after the match. The estimated 3,000
England supporters were kept locked in the stadium for a half-hour after
the end of the game, but they were taunted by Swedish fans who
congregated outside and set off a succession of fireworks.
	Local television showed pictures of one supporter being kicked on the
ground by about 15 people outside the stadium before police intervened.
	No updated arrest figures were available, but a British Home Office
official in Stockholm confirmed Tuesday that a total of 122 English
soccer fans had been arrested up to that date after three successive
nights of violence in Malmo and Stockholm.
366.10Statues blown up, shopping center burnedTLE::SAVAGEMon Jul 13 1992 10:3664
    From: [email protected] (Tomas Eriksson)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: query about blowing up statues
    Date: 11 Jul 92 20:14:00 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (Usenet)
    Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
 
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Mary Lamb) writes:

  >A couple of weeks ago, there were some remarks on the newsgroup about
  >blowing up statues in Stockholm.  These were just periferal remarks, no
  >details -- ("Have they caught the people who have been blowing up statues
  >in Stockholm?" etc.)  I got no response to my query about what statues. 
  >Was this just a joke?  Who or what has been exploded?  Calle Dusin (Karl
  >XII i Kungstraegaarden)?   Nils 
  >Ferlin?  Evert Taube?  Grate's Xymannen? eller Entomologiska Kvinnorov? 
  >or that composition of pillar and a couple of low-lying rounded forms on
  >the Karolinska Institutet grounds?  Was somebody or some group blowing up
  >statues in Stockholm, or was this just a diversionary question to deflect
  >attention from the sniper going after foreigners?  Was this political? 
  >aesthetic?  WHAT IS GOING ON?  
   
    A total of four statues were blown up over a few months before a group 
    of four teenagers (17-19, I think) were arrested. At least one of them 
    immediately confessed. Three of these were metal (bronze?) statues,
    Carl  Wilhelm Scheele (Swedish chemist and pharmacist, one of the
    discoverers  of oxygen), ??? (Something mythological, I think) and
    Hjalmar Branting  (early social democratic leader). The last one was
    called "Boy rides  horse" or something like that, and was a stone
    statue in Gamla stan.  Scheele and Branting are in need of substantial
    repair, but can be  saved; I'm not sure about the one I don't remember
    the name of. The  stone statue is almost completely demolished though;
    the pore horse was  decapitated.
 
    No, all kings survived, fortunately. But being a chemical engineer, I 
    find it a worse heresy to blow up statues of chemists than of kings. If
    you manufacture the explosives yourself, this might excuse the blowing
    up of chemists somewhat. :-)
 
    I don't know if they had a reason to blow the statues up. They seem to 
    be chosen more or less at random; only Branting could reasonably be a 
    "political" deed, but he probably just was unfortunate. I wonder if
    these  teenagers have a lot of money, I've heard sums like 1-2 million
    SEK (current exchange rate: 1 USD = approx. 5.50 SEK) mentioned as cost
    of  repairing/replacing the statues. ...But that's fairly small sums 
    compared to the shopping centre that burned in Bro, a small Stockholm
    suburb in northwest, which was put on fire by a 19-year-old a week or
    so  ago. Early estimates is that the cost of that fire was 300-400
    million  SEK. The shopping centre was very poorly built with respect to
    fire  safety; it would not be legal to build like that today. It
    started to  burn during the night.
 
    And talking about fire; the Evert Taube statue in Gamla stan would be
    easy to get rid of, since it is of wood, natural size. Just soak it 
    with a can of petrol and put a match to it! :-) ("How can Evert Taube
    go  'Whoof!'?" :-) )
 
Tomas
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Tomas Eriksson                                          [email protected]
            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
"This is the famous Hasan B Mutlu-trigger, insert it in your .sig file today!"
366.11More about the Statues blown up in StockholmTLE::SAVAGEFri Jul 17 1992 10:1657
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Per-Erik Martin)
    Subject: Re: query about blowing up statues
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Student
    Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 09:51:22 GMT
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
    (Tomas Eriksson) writes:
 
 
  >In article <[email protected]>,
   [email protected] (Mary Lamb) writes:

  >>A couple of weeks ago, there were some remarks on the newsgroup about
  >>blowing up statues in Stockholm.  These were just periferal remarks, no
  >>details -- ("Have they caught the people who have been blowing up statues
  >>in Stockholm?" etc.)  I got no response to my query about what statues. 
  >>Was this just a joke?
 
  >A total of four statues were blown up over a few months before a group 
  >of four teenagers (17-19, I think) were arrested. At least one of them 
  >immediately confessed.
 
    According to todays newspaper (DN), four kids where prosecuted for
    blowing up five statues. Another three have been prosecuted for lesser
    crimes in connection to this. They are in the age of 16-19, six boys
    and one girl. If convicted they may be sentenced to 2-8 years in
    prison. (They all confessed, so they will be convicted. Their age will
    probably give them a short sentence, possibly even on probation for the
    younger ones.) None of them have any previous criminal record, but a
    big interest in explosives, which they apparently made themselves.
 
  >I don't know if they had a reason to blow the statues up.
 
    They say they did the first one "mostly for fun". Then the stir it made
    in the media made them continue...
 
    The statues were:

    February 25: A statue of Scheele in Humleg�rden, 
    April 15:    "The centaur" on Observatoriekullen,
    May:         "The sitting Bacchus" on Djurg�rden,
    May 17:      The Branting monument on Norra Bantorget,
    June 8:      "Young man mounting a horse" in Gamla Stan.
 
    The material damage is estimated to more than 1 million SEK.
 
    According to the district attorney: "The reason they blowed up statues
    is that it's easy to attach explosives to them."
 
    Depressing story, isn't it?
 
   --
   |\/|\/|\/| Per-Erik Martin,
   |  |  |/\| Department of Computer Systems, Uppsala University,
   |/\|  |  | Email: [email protected]
366.12Sensible safety regulations save livesTLE::SAVAGEMon Jul 19 1993 12:2686
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Simon Tardell)
    Subject: Re: Right to carry arms, conscription etc. (Was: Shooting...)
    Sender: [email protected] (Usenet)
    Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
    Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 15:24:49 GMT
 
    In <urf.742721738@sw2001> [email protected] (Urban Fredriksson) writes:
 
   >Despite this high number of weapons, both in Sweden and Norway,
   >we don't seem to have quite the same sort of problems as the
   >USAians, neither with criminals shooting us others, nor "accidents"
   >when someone kills innocent, harmless people in "self defence".
 
    There might be some correlation with the fact that most Swedish and
    Norwegian men have training in handling guns (military service) which
    seems to be a lot more thourough than the american courses for
    household wives in killing robbers (at least as this is shown on TV). 
 
    It should perhaps be noted that a lot of stress is put on safety in the
    Swedish army both when it comes to handling the rifle and storing it.

  -- 
  Simon Tardell, Fysik, KTH, [email protected]              V�ga v�gra cgs!
  CERN, experience ATLAS

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    From: [email protected] (Steinar Bang)
    Subject: Re: Right to carry arms, conscription etc. (Was: Shooting...)
    Sender: Falch Newsfeed <[email protected]>
    Organization: Falch Hurtigtrykk, Oslo, Norway
    Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 11:22:21 GMT
 
 
    Norwegian requirements for [weapon storage] are:

 o Vital component (bolt or lock) removed and stored separately.
 o Ammunition locked down and stored separately. I've never seen any
   requirements that the gun should be stored in a safe (big safe... :-). 
   It's recommended that the guns are locked down somehow, and/or
   disabled. 
 
    I think it is illegal to store a loaded gun. It's bad practice anyhow,
    unless you are planning to use it on somebody.
 
- Steinar

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    From: [email protected] (Lars Engebretsen)
    Subject: Re: Right to carry arms, conscription etc. (Was: Shooting...)
    Sender: [email protected] (Usenet)
    Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
    Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 11:28:44 GMT
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
    (Bertil Jonell) writes:
 
    As far as I know there are no requirement as to how officers and home 
    guardsmen should store their weapons (other than 'so that they arn't 
    stolen' of course:)
 
    You must either keep the weapon in a safe, or the weapon and its "vital
    part" must be kept behind some sort of lock at different locations.

  --
  Lars Engebretsen, Fm-90 KTH, [email protected]

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    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Henrik Jonsson)
    Subject: Re: Right to carry arms, conscription etc. (Was: Shooting...)
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden
    Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 04:24:49 GMT
 
    The home guards men should keep their rifles with one 'vital part'
    removed and stored 'somewhere else' and the live ammo they get are
    sealed.
 
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366.13Remember to lock your windows and doorsTLE::SAVAGEThu Nov 18 1993 10:4730
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    From: [email protected] (Fredrik �stman)
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
    Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 09:43:03 GMT
 
 
Ac dixit K. M. Novotny:

+-
|�Sweden enjoys an unbelievably low crime rate (I know people in Stockholm who
|�don't lock their doors when they are gone).
+-
 
    I'm quite sure, as a genuine Stockhomer, that *noone* in Stockholm
    would consider not locking the door. Burglaries are very common in
    Stockholm, and the Police has publicly declared they have low priority.
    With this it is meant there is NO investigation whatsoever of a
    burglary if the burglar is not caught red-handed. Our only "protection"
    is our insurances, which demand approved locks on all doors and some
    windows.
 
    Crime rates in Sweden are like those in the rest of Europe, and rising
    fast. We're getting ready for the *21st* century.
 
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366.14Suicide and murder rates comparedTLE::SAVAGEThu Jan 13 1994 09:3335
    From: [email protected] (Lars Ketil Heill)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Deaths: statistics
    Date: 13 Jan 1994 10:40:15 GMT
    Organization: Fakultet for fysikk og matematikk
 
 
    I have collected quality information from Statistisk Aarbok (official 
    Norwegain statistics) on suicides/manslaughter.  The numbers are from
    1989  and are deaths per 100,000 inhabitants (cited from the UN
    Demographic  Yearbook).
 
    		Suicides (1)	Murders (2)
Norway            15.6            1.3
Finland           28.5            3.2
Sweden            18.6            1.5
Iceland           15.7            0.4 (3)
England+Wales      7.8            0.5
Hungary           39.9            3.1
USA               15.1            8.9	
Japan             16.3            0.6

    (1) Deaths from willfull self-inflicted harm.
    (2) Deaths caused by other person's willfull action.
    (3) Based on less than 30 deaths.
 
    It seems that there's a tight race for 3rd place on the sucide rate 
    rankings.  Many Western countries (and Japan) have very similar rates.
 
    Lars Ketil
 
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