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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:603
Total number of notes:4325

361.0. "Endangered species: lifestyles and animals" by TLE::SAVAGE (Neil, @Spit Brook) Thu Aug 24 1989 15:47

Group soc.culture.nordic
article 951

From: [email protected] (Robert Martensen)
Organization: TeleLOGIC Uppsala AB

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Walden)
writes:
>
>       I've heard a Swedish friend use what I thought was "raggare" to
>       describe Swedish tough guys who ride motorcycles and hang around
>       at outdoor food-to-go joints.  It would roughly mean a member
>       of a motorcycle or outlaw car club.  Is this the same word?
>
>                               Dave Walden

    Raggare - from the verb "ragga"
    
    Ragga is what you are doing in the disco on a saturday night, i.e.
    picking up girls.
    
    "Raggare" are driving around the "raggarsv{ngen" in their big
    (preferably American) cars, drinking beer, vodka and CC, eating
    hamburgers and hot dogs, picking up girls along the rout and fighting
    outside the dancing places. They listen to old american rock music and
    live on junc food. Midsummer is the big celebration for the raggare.
    Then they all stuff themselves, their girls and friends into their big
    cars and drives in long columns toward their big cult places (a few big
    festivities with dance and rock music, situated on the countryside),
    where they drink, fuck and bash each others heads.
    
    Observe: a "raggare" drives a CAR, not an MC!

    Compare:
    Bl|jraggare:   Younger raggare with only an old Volvo instad of a "Cheva"
    Raggarsv{ngen: The street/streets that the raggare is driving up and down
               all night long.
    MC-knutte:     Two wheeled raggare.

    Nowaday the raggare belongs to the endangered speices!
    - Elvis is dead
    - the murricans just dont make cars like they used to
    - The girls are at home looking at video

    There are still small colonies scattered around Sweden though.
    Especially in less populated areas (small towns), where they still can
    scare a few old ladies and the video shops are less frequent.

    A short and not very serious sociological study by Robert M. A poor
    fellow who was brought up among them.

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Real life:      Robert Martensson               Email:  robert@uplog.{se,uucp}
Snail mail:     TeleLOGIC Uppsala AB            Phone:  +46 18 189441
                Box 1218                        Fax:    +46 18 132039
                S - 751 42 Uppsala, Sweden 
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361.1The last of the Scandinavian wolvesNEILS::SAVAGEMon Oct 29 1990 12:2543
    From: [email protected] (Jonny Axelsson)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Pragmatic politics part 1: Endangered Species
    Date: 26 Oct 90 23:01:39 GMT
    Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University in Oslo, Norway
 
    The Scandinavian wolf (from whom the word warg comes from) has for some
    time now faced extinction. Today the total population consist of 6-8
    individuals living in the borderlands between Norway and Sweden. Some
    of you may know of the methods used to save endangered species, and
    scientists are using many of them to ensure that they will survive (the
    number is smaller than wished for, but they might, just possibly,
    manage).
 
    A week ago a sheep farmer (the wolves nemesis) killed one of the
    remainding and then destroyed the radio transmittor the wolf was
    carrying. When they found out who the killer was, he was instantly made
    a hero among the other farmers and were probably offered the fattest
    and most beautiful sheep in the county for the night as a reward. The
    farmers expected a fine, but they offeredto share the cost. Since they
    get heavy subsidies from the Norwegian state, they could easily pay.
 
    Two days ago the verdict fell. The farmer would get no punishment at
    all for the killing, but he would have to pay for the destruction of
    the transmittor, and the following search for the body. This was a
    local court. Yesterday the prosecution decided they wouldn't appeal to
    a higher court. This means free season on the wolves (to parafrase one
    of the leaders: "We don't want to exterminate the wolf, we just don't
    want any of them alive").
 
    The wolves misfortune is that they live in the border area. In Sweden
    they are safe. Unfortunately, like the current mayor of Oslo, they
    don't know when they cross the border.
 
    One last piece of information: Last year the farmers killed four (4)
    wolves.
 
    Jonny
    4th floor
    Norway
 
    The surest way of solving the problem of endangered species is to make
    sure there is none.
361.2Protection for Wolves in FinlandTLE::SAVAGEWed May 26 1993 13:1325
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Jarmo Niemi TUY)
    Subject: wolves
    Sender: [email protected] (Usenet NEWS)
    Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
    Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 20:43:32 GMT
 
    Excerpts from  this morning's Helsingin Sanomat: 
 
    "The European Federation for the Protection of wolves, which was
    founded last weekend in Liege, Belgium, threatens Finland with
    financial and tourism boycott if the new Finnish hunting law doesn't
    guarantee a self-sustaining wolf population.... As chairman of the
    federation was elected the Finnish M.P. Erkki Pulliainen (greens)...
    The federation states that because the future of wolves in Sweden and
    Norway is in danger, a protection zone or corridor should be founded in
    northern Finland to allow passage of wolves from Russia to Sweden and
    Norway... According to Pulliainen there are only about 20 wolves
    altogether in Sweden and Norway. In Finland there are 50 to 100
    wolves... Pulliainen believes there should be at least 200 wolves in
    Finland..."
 
    Jarmo Niemi   Biochemistry, University of Turku, Finland,
    [email protected]
 
361.3V�rmland, home of wolvesTLE::SAVAGETue Jun 01 1993 15:1934
    From: [email protected] (Anders Rosen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: wolves
    Date: 29 May 1993 08:39:36 GMT
    Organization: Computing Science Dep., University of Uppsala, Sweden.
 
    Well, I don't know whether this discussion is that serious, but here is
    some facts about the current wolf situation in Sweden (and in Norway).
 
    According to "Nya Wermlands tidningen", a Swedish daily paper, the
    horse Albert, a seven year old Ardenner, was atacked by a wolf
    recently. Albert survived, probably thanks to his weight, which is
    about a ton. Except for atacking larger animals, which is rare, one
    person in the article claims that the same wolf atacks and kill about
    20 sheep a year.
 
    During the last 20 years 25 wolwes have been killed, 11 in Norway and
    14 in Sweden. Six of those were killed in traffic, eight were  shot
    legally, and eleven killed by poachers.
 
    Also as someone mentioned earlier on the net, city people seems to like
    wolwes a lot more than those living close to them. There is always a
    lively debate when a "lone wolf" becomes to thame and close to
    villages. There are several examples of wolves mating with dogs (I
    wonder what their offspring is like ?). 
 
    I live in the city ;-), and in V�rmland, Swedens "home of wolves"
 
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| Anders Rosen                  | Computing Science Departement
| [email protected]        | Uppsala University
| The opinions above are my own | Sweden
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