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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
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358.0. "Alcoholic beverages, prices of" by TLE::SAVAGE (Neil, @Spit Brook) Fri Aug 11 1989 11:43

    Group soc.culture.nordic
    article 886

    From: [email protected] (Jonas Flygare)
    Subject: Food is culture, right?
    Organization: Dep. of Computer Systems, Upsala University, Sweden

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    The prices are as of june 9:th

    All prices are for bottles containing .75 litres unless explicitly
    stated different.             

Cheap red wine

French red wine, 29 Sek.
Spanish red wine, 30 Sek
Vranac, yugoslavia, 32 Sek

Not quite cheap wine (red)

Bardolino Classico (italy) 36 Sek
Barossa Valley (australia) 37 Sek
California Red (USA)       36 Sek
Ruby of Crimea (USSR)      38 Sek
Rene Barbier (Spain)       40 Sek
Cotes-du-Rhone (France)    41 Sek
Rioja Tinto    (Spain)     45 Sek
Nottage Hill claret   (Australia) 45 Sek

almost expensive to outrageous wines
Louis M. Martini Cabernet (USA) 52 Sek
Glenloth (australia)       57 Sek
Jacobs Creek Claret (Australia) 62 Sek
Simi Cabernet Sauvignon (USA)   85 Sek
Imperial Gran Reserva (Spain)   99 Sek
Domaine du Vieux Lazaret (France) 112 Sek
Prado Enea Gran Reserva (Spain) 119

Red Bordeaux
Marechal 36 Sek
Le Cardinal 54 Sek
Mouton-Cadet 63 Sek
Chateau Gazin (pomerol) 222 Sek
Chateau Lynch Bages     286 Sek
Vieux Chateau Certan    385 Sek


Gives you an idea I hope.. Wines aren't too bad, taxwise, but here we go..
Hard liquor..

Aperitif:
Campari Bitter   146 Sek
Ouzo             98 Sek
Pernod           138  (1/2 litre)

Eau de vie
Absolut (40 %) 177 Sek
Smirnoff (40%) 176 Sek
Moskovskaya (40%) 179
Finlandia (40%) (1/2 litre) 119 Sek

Gin:
Beefeater (40%) 211 Sek

Tequila (generic) (40%) 200 Sek

Courvoisier VS  299 Sek
Martell ***     309 Sek
Remy Martin F S VSOP 436 Sek

Southern Comfort   216 Sek

Whisky:
American:
 Four Roses (40%) 196 Sek
 Jim Beam   (40%) 202 Sek
 Jack Daniels #7  284 Sek

Irish:
 John Jameson     218 Sek

Canadian
 Black Velvet     186 Sek

Scotch blended
 Stewarts finest old  196 Sek
 Cutty Sark       215 Sek
Shivas Regal      334 Sek

Beer:
All prices are for one can=33 cc
                                        for one liter
Lapin Kulta (Fin) 10.10 Sek             28.78
Becks  (West Germany) 10.20             29.09
DAB     -----""-----  10.30             29.39
Schlitz  (USA)        10.80             30.42
Pilsner Urquell (how do you spell CzechoSlovakia??)
                      10.10             30.60
Faxe     (Denmark)    10.40             31.51
Guinness Stout (Ireland) 11.20          33.93

    Next food. I'll try to get regular food as well as some fancy.
    Potatoes, minced meat, pork, veal, etc, etc.

    I know there are some things one can save money on going to for example
    Norway to buy, and there is a lot of traffic across the borders here
    for those things. Norwegian flour is much better than Swedish, (maybe
    because it's mainly imported??) and some years ago meat was chaper in
    Sweden than Norway. Could be interesting to make a comparison, and it
    might even turn out to be beneficial to peoples wallets.. Wow..

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    Jonas Flygare (aka Flax) 
    email: [email protected] 
    real:  Vaktargatan 32 F:621 S-754 22 Uppsala Sweden  
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358.1FYI: $1 ~= SEK 6.35COOKIE::PBERGHPeter Bergh, DTN 343-0577Fri Aug 11 1989 12:451
    
358.2PLAYER::BRH388::HANBURYI'm just a pawn sacrificeWed Jul 15 1992 11:005
Would someone like to update me on the prices of beers in a Stockholm
bar. WHen I was there some ten years ago the price of the strong beer
was about 20 SEK a half liter.

Roger
358.3SWETSC::WESTERBACKMimsy were the borogrovesWed Jul 15 1992 16:5430
    A monthly, free magazine called "N�jesguiden" has a list of beer
    prices at different bars / restaurants, and they call it the
    "Bar.o.meter"  :-)
    
    In the May issue prices range from 47 SEK to 105 SEK per liter, but 
    only three are listed below 60 SEK. They use liters because normally
    you order a "stor stark" = big strong, which can be anything from 35
    to 50 centiliters. Therefore it's deceptive to just look a the price
    for a stor stark, which normally would be between 30 and 42 SEK.
    (Right now 1 US$ = 5.40 SEK)
    
    As of July 1 prices at "Systembolaget", the Gov't liquor store, have
    changed dramatically because now the tax on a drink only depends on
    its content of alcohol, instead of its price. That means that wine
    and liquor that are higher quality, and more expensive, now have lower
    tax, and consequently prices have dropped, sometimes with 30-50 %. 
    It's now said that Sweden have some of the lowest prices in Europe
    for good high quality wines. On the other hand some popular cheap
    drinks have gotten more expensive because they have a high percentage
    of alcohol. 
    
    It's still unclear if this will affect restaurant prices. One thing 
    that has happened is that "mellan�l", medium-strong beer, which was
    abolished in 1976 (I think) , has now been reintroduced. Earlier it
    was sold in any ordinary shop, but now it's only sold in
    "Systembolaget". It seems restaurants will be selling more of this
    instead of strong beer. (Strong beer = max 5.6 volume% alcohol, 
    medium strong = max 4.5 %).
    
    Hans
358.4Price comparison 1989-1992SWETSC::WESTERBACKMimsy were the borogrovesWed Jul 15 1992 17:1396
    I thought I'd compare the old prices from .0 from summer of '89 to 
    today's prices:  (not all wines are still sold)
    
    
    All prices are for bottles containing .75 litres unless explicitly
    stated different.             

Cheap red wine                           1992 price

French red wine, 29 Sek.                      39
Spanish red wine, 30 Sek                      39
Vranac, yugoslavia, 32 Sek                    41

Not quite cheap wine (red)

Bardolino Classico (italy) 36 Sek              45
Barossa Valley (australia) 37 Sek
California Red (USA)       36 Sek              41
Ruby of Crimea (USSR)      38 Sek
Rene Barbier (Spain)       40 Sek              45
Cotes-du-Rhone (France)    41 Sek              46
Rioja Tinto    (Spain)     45 Sek
Nottage Hill claret   (Australia) 45 Sek

almost expensive to outrageous wines
Louis M. Martini Cabernet (USA) 52 Sek
Glenloth (australia)       57 Sek              51
Jacobs Creek Claret (Australia) 62 Sek         51
Simi Cabernet Sauvignon (USA)   85 Sek
Imperial Gran Reserva (Spain)   99 Sek
Domaine du Vieux Lazaret (France) 112 Sek      92
Prado Enea Gran Reserva (Spain) 119

Red Bordeaux
Marechal 36 Sek
Le Cardinal 54 Sek                             55
Mouton-Cadet 63 Sek                            60
Chateau Gazin (pomerol) 222 Sek
Chateau Lynch Bages     286 Sek               260
Vieux Chateau Certan    385 Sek               215  (!)


Gives you an idea I hope.. Wines aren't too bad, taxwise, but here we go..
Hard liquor..

Aperitif:
Campari Bitter   146 Sek                      100 (!)
Ouzo             98 Sek                       100
Pernod           138  (1/2 litre)             138

Eau de vie
Absolut (40 %) 177 Sek                        193
Smirnoff (40%) 176 Sek                        193
Moskovskaya (40%) 179                         194
Finlandia (40%) (1/2 litre) 119 Sek           169 (750 ml)

Gin:
Beefeater (40%) 211 Sek                       209

Tequila (generic) (40%) 200 Sek               203

Courvoisier VS  299 Sek                       254
Martell ***     309 Sek                       261
Remy Martin F S VSOP 436 Sek                  322  (!)

Southern Comfort   216 Sek                    216

Whisky:
American:
 Four Roses (40%) 196 Sek                     204
 Jim Beam   (40%) 202 Sek                     206
 Jack Daniels #7  284 Sek                     250

Irish:
 John Jameson     218 Sek                     213

Canadian
 Black Velvet     186 Sek                     200

Scotch blended
 Stewarts finest old  196 Sek                 202
 Cutty Sark       215 Sek                     210
Shivas Regal      334 Sek                     268

Beer:
All prices are for one can=33 cc
                                        for one liter        1992:
Lapin Kulta (Fin) 10.10 Sek             28.78                12.00
Becks  (West Germany) 10.20             29.09                12.10
DAB     -----""-----  10.30             29.39                12.40
Schlitz  (USA)        10.80             30.42                10.40
Pilsner Urquell (how do you spell CzechoSlovakia??)
                      10.10             30.60                10.30
Faxe     (Denmark)    10.40             31.51                11.20
Guinness Stout (Ireland) 11.20          33.93                13.30

358.5Systembolaget's competitionTLE::SAVAGEMon Apr 11 1994 13:0173
  From: [email protected] (Reuter/Andrew Huddart)
  Newsgroups: clari.world.europe.western
  Subject: Swedish grocer challenges state alcohol monopoly
  Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 22:40:02 PDT
 
	 STOCKHOLM, April 11 (Reuter) - Grocer Harry Franzen was
delighted when the police arrived to stop him selling wine to
his customers.
	 Franzen is determined to challenge Sweden's stringent liquor
laws. He wants to be prosecuted for breaking the state's
monopoly on sales of wine and spirits so he can test Sweden's
rules against those of the European Union, which favour free
competition.
	 "I told the police I was guilty, that should be enough for
them to start a case. If the prosecutor drops the case I will
appeal his decision," he told Reuters.
	 Sweden, which last month negotiated a deal to enter the EU
from 1995, managed to retain its century-old retail monopoly by
convincing Brussels that alcohol abuse is one of its most
serious social problems.
	 But Franzen says small shopkeepers in communities like his,
the southern Swedish village of Rostanga, population 1,000, feel
the rules are out of date.
	 "We want to be able to do this. It's a competition issue,"
he said.
	 Franzen's protest is linked to the European Economic Area
(EEA) agreement which has covered Sweden since January 1, this
year. In essence it forbids monopolies of any kind, as does the
founding agreement of the EU, the Treaty of Rome.
	 A jolly, bearded 58-year-old, Franzen started selling one
litre sealed packs of white and red French, Italian and Spanish
wine for 65 crowns ($8.20) each shortly after his store opened
on Thursday.
	 He had sold 26 packs by late morning when three
plain-clothes policemen came into the shop, told him to stop,
and seized the remaining four boxes.
	 "They said I would be reported on suspicion of a crime in
contravention of the alcohol law," Franzen said.
	 "I said I will fight it, and gave them my lawyer's business
card."
	 In a few weeks' time the former bank manager expects to be
called to an initial court hearing.
	 Under Swedish law, only the state-owned Systembolaget
company is allowed to sell drinks containing more than about 3.0
percent alcohol for consumption off the premises.
	 With just over 900 outlets it had sales worth 19.5 billion
crowns ($2.45 billion) in 1992.
	 The monopoly's survival was a victory for the government,
and influential temperance movements. They say it is necessary
to protect the public from "the dangers of higher alcohol
consumption" such as higher mortality from liver cirrhosis.
	 Franzen says these arguments don't wash, and that allowing
thousands of small shops to sell wine alongside the weak beer
currently permitted on their shelves would not damage national
health.
	 Swedes have long become used, albeit reluctantly, to joining
lengthy queues in soulless Systembolaget stores that offer a
limited choice of wine and spirits at inflated prices. A bottle
of bottom of the range Scotch whisky costs about 250 crowns
($31.50).
	 "I want a sober handling of this issue. We're only talking
about wine here. People who can't handle it should stay away
from it," Franzen said.
	 He highlights the agressive new marketing measures now being
taken by Systembolaget, which involve targetting customer groups
with new products, increasing shop sizes and switching to
self-service from counter sale.
	 One effect of this, he says, is that local traders are
losing the ability to make money.
	 "I'm fighting for profits at the margins, for us to continue
having food shops out in our less-populated areas," he said.
"Wine is just one little bit for them to survive, but we need
it."