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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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348.0. "North European Universities share computer network" by TLE::SAVAGE (Neil, @Spit Brook) Wed Jul 26 1989 17:30

Group soc.culture.nordic
article 494

From: [email protected] (Jan Michael Rynning)
Subject: Re: Insularity of Americans
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Leonard Norrgard)
|writes:
>  Which reminds me of another thing: since Iceland is connected to Nordunet,
>how come we haven't heard anything from them in this newsgroup? Don't they
>get soc.culture.nordic?

``NORDUNET'' stands for ``NORDic University NETwork''.  It consists of:

1. An IP network, which is part of the ARPA Internet.
2. A DECnet network which runs in parallel with it on the same Ethernet
   cables within the Nordic countries.
3. A number of Ethernet bridges, IP and DECnet routers, that tie all
   this together.

At present the major universities in Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden
are connected to the NORDUNET.  Iceland uses a dial-up UUCP connection for
mail and news, but it will have an IP connection within short (we pinged
the IP gateway on Iceland last night, so there is a connection, but I think
they are still testing it).

Jan Michael Rynning,
Department of Numerical Analysis
  and Computing Science,
Royal Institute of Technology,
S-100 44 Stockholm,
Sweden.                         
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348.1Netter seeks economical access to Finland & SwedenTLE::SAVAGENeil, @Spit BrookWed Aug 09 1989 11:2938
    Group soc.culture.nordic
    article 806

    From: [email protected] (Lyle Davis)
    Subject: networking
    Organization: People-Net [pnet12], Del Mar, CA

    I am American Conference Host for the International Conference on
    RelayNet and we have several feeds coming from Denmark and Norway (Oslo
    and Trondheim- - -mostly Copenhagen in Denmark).  I'm interested in
    getting Swedish and Finnish participation as well.  
    
    One of the considerations, of course, is cost.  A transatlantic call to
    feed packets of mail and to receive same is one thing, but I understand
    phone charges are astronomically high in Europe and, as a result, there
    is nowhere near the modeming activity in Europe that we see in the
    States.

    One of our users has a friend who is with IBM and he is going to
    inquire to see if we might patch into there interEuropean network and
    thus access Sweden and Finland.  If he says yes, probably no problem;
    if he says not, we're back to square one.  Do you folks have any ideas
    as to how we might economically access Sweden and Finland, or, for that
    matter, broaden our user base in Norway and Denmark?

    These users, I believe, are probably not unix based.  While I sense
    that this group is largely students, professors and the like, a
    sophisticated group, I also sense that the group that I'm hosting is
    not that sophisticated; they have computer knowledge and some are
    tecchies. . .but really don't know if any of them are into unix or
    other sophisticated systems.  I believe they would very much enjoy
    reading your messages and replying to them, as do I.

    I'm open for suggestions.

    UUCP: uunet!serene!pnet12!lyled
    ARPA: [email protected]
    INET: [email protected]                                   
348.2News from Norway via NORINFORMTLE::SAVAGEMon Dec 16 1991 15:0657
    From: [email protected] (Debora Weber-Wulff)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Norwegian Information Service
    Date: 13 Dec 91 18:11:44 GMT
    Sender: [email protected] (Math Department)
    Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
 
    So, for all you Norwegians out there in exile, here's what you've been
    waiting for: the news from home, online. I found this press release in
    the pile on my husband's desk (he publishes a German language magazine
    on Scandinavia), gave it a try, and found that it worked. You'll have
    to see for yourself if it's worth it.
 
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs appears to have a group called
    NORINFORM that keeps a database of news items that are updated daily,
    and which can be searched. They are offering a free, trial period with
    a public login until January 1992. After that it  appears to just need
    a registration. You pay only the telecommunication costs, the data base
    is free.
 
    So fire up the modems to 2400 baud, 7 bit, 1 stop, even parity and full
    duplex, and dial: (472) 42 51 92 or use a packet switched netword to
    access (in Norway) A130517 (Intl)      02422130517 (I needed the 0, you
    might not)
 
    It will ask for an ESCAPE, and then a Norsk Data machine (those were
    the days, hacking for ND) will ask you for your terminal type. 6 is
    VT100, 2 is glass teletype, the safest option.
 
    You now get 2 databases, NOR and NNB, to look at. The latest news can
    be found by typing at the SIFT: prompt

    FIND DATE MAX
    SORT
    SHOW
    NEXT
    ....
    EXIT
 
    Now that was easy, wasn't it!
 
    More information can be had (and registration is done at) Norinform
    P.O. Box 241 Sentrum 0103 Oslo Attn: Karin Bruun
 
    Three cheers for the Norwegian government for providing this service,
    do any of the other countries have such a database? Sure is a good way
    to disseminate information on the country!
 
    Now all your employers will be wondering about the increased X.25
    traffic to Norway... :-)
 
 
    -- 
    Debora Weber-Wulff                       [email protected]
    ZI Fachdidaktiken, Did. der Informatik   +49 30 838 6334
    Habelschwerdter Allee 45                 (INCLUDE "standard.disclaimer")
    D-W-1000 Berlin 33                       (PRINTN (WITTY-MESSAGE TODAY))
348.3Change of address: University of Helsinki, FinlandTLE::SAVAGEThu Jan 07 1993 12:5333
    From: [email protected] (Pekka Orponen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Address change: Univ. of Helsinki
    Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:53:27 GMT
    Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science
 
    To whom it may concern:
 
    As of 1.1.1993, the University of Helsinki has changed to a P.O.Box
    based mail distribution system. Consequently, all s-mail addresses for
    the University have changed. The general format of the new addresses
    is:
 
   Department of <Whatever>
   P.O.Box <departmental code> (<optional street address>)
   SF-00014 University of Helsinki
   Finland.
 
    Use of the parenthesized street address is optional, but it should be
    included for express and courier mail.
 
    Specifically, the new address of the Computer Science Department is:
 
   Department of Computer Science
   P.O.Box 26 (Teollisuuskatu 23)
   SF-00014 University of Helsinki
   Finland.
 
    E-mail addresses for the university remain, of course, unaffected.
    Their general format is:
 
   [email protected]

348.4Swedish Internet addressesTLE::SAVAGEThu Aug 04 1994 13:2368
    From: [email protected] (Lars Lindgren)
    Newsgroups: swnet.general,soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: adresslistan
    Date: Wed, 03 Aug 94 22:42:37 +0200
 
    Det finns nu ett embryo till en lista �ver anv�ndbara adresser f�r oss
    svenska Internetanv�ndare.  Huvudtanken �r att snabbt kunna hitta en
    kontaktadress vid en viss firma utan att beh�va st�ra postmaster m.fl,
    samt att �ven kunna hitta de organisationer som inte finns under .se.
 
    ** ENGLISH: There is a list of some useful Swedish Internet-addresses
    as ftp.sunet.se:/pub/doc/network/adresslistan. **
 
    Alla seri�sa bidrag �r v�lkomna.
 
    Listan finns f�r ftp som ftp.sunet.se:/pub/doc/network/adresslistan.
 
    Man kan �ven f� den direkt till sin brevl�da genom att skicka detta
    utan �rende till t.ex [email protected]:
 
    open ftp.sunet.se
    cd /pub/doc/network
    get adresslistan                        
    quit
 
    [ndringar sedan f�rra versionen (940725):
 
    (+ = tillagt; & = �ndrat; - = borttaget)
 
+Computer Sweden
+  redaktion                     [email protected]
+  chefred                       [email protected]
+Corporate Computing             [email protected]
+&Datateknik
+  redaktion               [email protected], [email protected]
+  prenumerationer               [email protected]
+  chefred                       [email protected]
+  branschnyheter                [email protected]
&  tester och k�pguide           [email protected]
+  dataforskning                 [email protected]
+  programutveckling             [email protected]
+  kommunikation                 [email protected]
+Datav�rlden                     [email protected]
+&Elektroniktidningen
&  redakchef, nyheter, konstr    [email protected]
+  m�ttekn, kommunik, uv�gor     [email protected]
+  industriautom, produktion     [email protected]
+  komponenter, optoteknik       [email protected]
+Mikrodatorn                     [email protected]
+Riksdagen
+  ledam�terna (alla)            f�[email protected]
+Svenska PC World
+  redaktion                     [email protected]
+  chefred                       [email protected]
+  testcenter                    [email protected]
&Sveriges Radio
&  Vetandets v�rld               [email protected]
+Z, Tidningen
+  redaktion                     [email protected]
+  chefredakt�r                  [email protected], [email protected]
+  redaktionschef                [email protected],    [email protected]
+  redaktionsass                 [email protected]
+  art director                  [email protected]
+  marknadsf�ring                [email protected]
+  ekonomi                       [email protected]
 
--
Lars Lindgren, Stockholm, Sverige  [email protected] [email protected]
348.5Live on the InternetTLE::SAVAGETue Nov 29 1994 08:5763
            STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) -- David Letterman may not have much to
    fear from Kare Persson, yet.
            The 29-year-old university student has aimed high: co-host of
    what may be the world's first live variety show on the Internet,
    complete with jokes, guests and music.
            ``Maybe `cyber-host' is better,'' Persson said before Friday
    night's premier.
            The 20-minute show was the most recent ``first'' to hit the
    international computer network which, by most estimates, has 20
    million to 30 million potential users worldwide.
            The Rolling Stones made a splash this month with what they
    called the first live rock concert on the Internet. But since the
    system has no formal overseers or owners, nobody is ever sure who
    has done what first.
            This week, a promotion on the Internet blared: ``First in
    Sweden! First in Europe! Probably the first live TV show in the
    world broadcast over the Internet!''
            Well, maybe.
            Produced by the computer and media departments at Sweden's
    Kalmar University, the pilot transmission of ``One Hit Wonder''
    includes short films, skits and music laced with jokes from
    co-hosts Persson and Agneta Karlsson.
            In a piece of old-fashioned hype, the Internet promotion called
    her ``a femme fatale on the verge of a nervous breakdown.''
    Persson, in a description that may have special meaning for
    computer junkies, is billed as a ``Compartment Casanova, honest and
    reliable.''
            The live, English-language show was to be ``broadcast''
    digitally from a studio into an Internet connection at the
    university, in the town of Kalmar about 265 miles southeast of the
    capital Stockholm.
            Anybody with a color-screened computer, modem and speakers can
    watch it using software called ``CUSeeMe'' designed at Cornell
    University in New York. The programming is available free on the
    Internet.
            The producers admit the quality of their transmission would be
    lousy, moving at about six frames per second compared with 24
    frames per second on regular TV broadcasts.
            So the hosts are compensating by moving slowly themselves. The
    films and skits involve little movement and lots of talking, since
    the sound quality is far better.
            ``We'll try to make this show humorous,'' Persson said.
            Internet experts said the program wouldn't break any ground
    technologically. But it may teach programmers and producers a lot
    about the kind of format and content that eventually may work on
    the Internet.
            ``We're nowhere near the point where people in their homes have
    direct access to the Internet,'' said Adam Schoenfeld, an Internet
    analyst at the New York-based Jupiter Communications, a media
    research firm.
            ``(But) this is good work to explore the problems and
    capabilities of the Internet,'' Schoenfeld said. ``Even if it's
    something that doesn't come off smoothly, it can provide a lot of
    clues about what to do next time.''
            Researchers at the university-funded Program for Media
    Production said they would study the show and its reaction for
    about a month, then decide whether to make it a regular Internet
    feature.
            Persson, primping for his computer chip-enhanced debut, took a
    philosophical view of the whole venture.
            ``Nobody knows how important this will be,'' Persson said. ``It
    depends on how big the Internet will be. It could be huge, or it
    could be forgotten the next day.''
348.6Fax gateway to SwedenTLE::SAVAGEThu Dec 08 1994 10:4926
    From: Fredrik �hrberg <[email protected]>
    To: International Swedish Interest discussion list 
    
    Hi Everybody!
    
    For those of you who haven't already heard about it, SUNET has an
    e-mail to fax gateway which allows you to send an e-mail to any fax
    number in Sweden for free!!
    
    This is an excellent feature which will allow you to communicate with
    family and friends, provided they have a fax machine :)
    
    Simply send your e-mail to:  [email protected]
    
    where "faxnumber" includes the area code as it would be dialed from
    within Sweden.
    
    For more info, send an empty e-mail to  [email protected]
                                 
    Hope it will save you students out there some money!
    
    Ha det bra,
    
    Fredrik �hrberg
    
    [email protected]