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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
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257.0. "Finnish Language Course" by 25711::NIEMI () Thu Jan 28 1988 09:40

WHERE:  Kaleva Home, 107 Mechanic Street, Fitchburg
WHEN:   Ten (10) Monday evenings..March 14th to May 16th @ 7:00 p.m.
COST:   $25.00 payable in advance
REQUIRED:  Two books: FINNISH FOR FOREIGNERS and a new exercise book.
	   Both can be purchased at the school, cost $25.00 for both.
	   A Finnish-English dictionary available for $15.00 (not required).

TEACHERS:	Beginners......Marita Cauthen
		Intermediate...Rauni Cote
		Advanced.......Irma Laine
REGISTRATION: 	
		Monday evening March 14th @ 6:00 p.m.
		First class begins at 7:00 p.m. that evening.

Coffee and Finnish coffee bread served each week during the break.

		REGISTRATION FORM

	FINNISH LANGUAGE COURSE
	107 Mechanic Steet, Fitchburg, MA 01420

NAME(IN FULL):______________________________________________

STREET______________________________________________________

CITY,STATE,ZIP______________________________________________

PHONE_______________________________________________________

DO YOU SPEAK ANY FINNISH?_______________

DO YOU READ ANY FINNISH?________________

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ANY FINNISH?__________

MAKE CHECK PAYABLE TO FINNISH LANGUAGE ASSOCIATION
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257.1Mich. Finn can only say "hello"ENGINE::HEIKKILAWed May 11 1988 18:363
    
    I wish I had learned how to use notes earlier!  If there will be
    any future classes please reply to this note.  Thanks.
257.2CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif.Wed May 11 1988 21:219
    re: .1
    
    Somewhere in here there is a note with pointers to sources for audio
    taped courses from various places.
    
    re: .0
    
    What's Finnish coffee bread?  How about a recipe?
    
257.3re .1 & .2KIPPIS::SIROFirst Day of Rest of Your Life=todayFri May 13 1988 17:2819
Hei kaikki! (=Hello everyone)

re: .1

I don't know what they were serving in that course, maybe just 'pullaa' 
what means plain coffeebread or buns. Cannot give you any recipe because
I'm not very good in baking. Maybe Niemi (=cape in english) from .0 can
help you in that.

re: .1 & .2

In case you are interested of note 'Teaching a bit of finnish' add
HSK01::FNO to your notebook and then look at note 21.*.

best regards from Finnland

-risto
    
257.4Learning finnish is fun!CASEY::BURACKMin� puhun v�h�n suomea!Mon May 16 1988 10:3917
    Hi,
    
    In class we have pullaa - it is coffeebread (a little dry sometimes!).
    I have a recipe in a book I have. It has a lot of directions - if
    I have some time - I will put it in the notesfile.
    
    I am taking the beginners course and would recommend it highly!
    I have learned a lot. If you really want to learn finnish - you
    must take a class though and have finnish friends to help you (see
    the HSK01::FNO notesfile)!!
    
    Tonight is the last class - I will try to find out when the next
    one is (I believe it will be in the Fall).
    
    terve,
    
    Ruth-Ellen
257.5CASEY::BURACKMin� puhun v�h�n suomea!Tue May 17 1988 12:5612
    The next class will be in Sept. They advertise in the Fitchburg
    Newspaper (and the Worcester paper). 
    
    There is also a Finnish newspaper called Raivaaja (The Pioneer).
    It is in finnish and has 2 pages in english. Their address is:
    
    Raivaaja
    PO Box 600
    Fitchburg, MA 01420
    (617)343-3822
    
    Ruth-Ellen
257.6re .2, .3, .4 & .5ENGINE::HEIKKILAThu May 19 1988 18:223
    Thanks for the info everyone!
    
    Matt
257.9Finnish for creditHOTJOB::HELANDERFri Aug 26 1988 13:539
                      <Study Finnish for Credit>
    
    	Middlesex Community College is offering Finnish for credit 
    
    at their Bedford (MA) campus.  I do not know class times, but
    
    there are several courses offered.  Information may be obtained
    
    by calling (617) 275-8910, ext. 240.
257.7So you want to learn Finnish?CASEY::BURACKThis train is bound for gloryFri Sep 09 1988 11:2418
    Hi,
    
    Just saw the ad for the Finnish Language Course - starts Sept 12th
    and goes until Nov. 14th
        
    Registration is 6-7pm on Monday night before class....
    
    Phone 508-582-4201
    
    They have Beginners - Middle - Advanced
    
    I will try for the Middle class!!!
    
    See you there!
    
    terve,
    
    Ruth-Ellen
257.8Teach yourself FinnishNEILS::SAVAGEMon Mar 26 1990 10:2648
From: [email protected] (Don Bork)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Summary:  How to learn Finnish, Books, etc.
Date: 22 Mar 90 19:25:45 GMT
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario
 
    Thanks for all the replies to my question on learning Finnish, I've now
    got a fairly respectable list of titles, and I managed to meet up with
    an old exchange student friend.  (Isn't the net great?)
 
    Here's a summary for all those people who requested that I post it.
  
>From: [email protected] (Ari Ollikainen)
 
    Finnish for Foreigners, Tenth Edition (1978):
 
	ISBN 951-1-00397-6
 
	Kustannusosakeyhti� Otava
 
>From: [email protected] (Harold Stuart)
 
    The old standby "Teach Yourself Finnish" is useful for learning
    elements of grammar and vocabulary, although I found it a little too
    academic for my liking.
 
    The book is also a little out of date -- some of the anachronisms are
    quaint.
 
    I write:
 
    Another book (set of books) highly recommended is Suomea Suomeksi
    published by the Finnish Literature Society.  These books are the ones
    used by Radio Finland in their Learning Finnish course. (Good courses
    for someone new to the Finnish language, repeated every 10 weeks). 
    I've lost the ISBN number  for Suomea Suomeksi, but it seems to be the
    best one around.  (If we could only do something about the 7 week
    shipping time!)
 
    Don Bork
    (Rotary Vaihto-Oppilas '85-86)
 
 
    -- 
    Don Bork					Kakiak (n.) Leader of Fools
    [email protected]
 
    "Don't let school get in the way of an education" -Stoker '88-89
257.10Places to study FinnishTLE::SAVAGEFri Mar 22 1991 10:1554
    From: [email protected] (Louis Janus)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Studying Finnish outside Finland
    Date: 20 Mar 91 16:00:46 GMT
    Organization: University of Minnesota, Academic Computing Services
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
    (Saku Setala) writes:

    >
    >So this is the question 1: Where in USA can you study finnish ?
    >

    Here are the places in the USA and Canada I know of:
 
    University of Minnesota
    Dept of Scandinavian Studies
    9 Pleasant Street S.E.
    200 Folwell Hall
    Minneapolis, MN 55455 USA
 
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
    Dept of Scandinavian Studies
    1306 Van Hise Hall
    Madison, WI 53706
    University of Indiana - Bloomington
    Dept of Uralic and Altaic Studies
    Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA
 
    University of Massachusetts
    Dept of Western European Area Studies
    South College
    Amherst, MA 01003 USA
 
    Suomi College
    Hancock, Michigan 49930  (undergraduate institution)
 
    My understanding is that University of Toronto is setting up a Finnish
    Program, but I don't have details or addresses.
 
    I might be wrong, but I thought that Yale taught Finnish.  I am working
    from the 1989  Directory of Scandinavian Studies, published by the
    Society for the Advancement of Scandinavian Study.  Perhaps other
    universities might teach Finnish, but the Scandinavian Departments
    might not list these courses.
 
    One more I just found"
 
    Columbia University
    ____
    Louis Janus
    Dept of Scandinavian Studies
    Univ of Minnesota
    Minneapolis, MN 55455
257.11FINNMORF: Finnish language programTLE::SAVAGEFri Jun 25 1993 11:5139
   From: [email protected] (HOLMAN EUGENE)
   Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
   Subject: Re: A... (erm) question on Finnish language tutoring programs.
   Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 11:37:24 GMT
   Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre
 
 
    About six years ago I wrote a program called FINNMORF. Although not a 
    tutoring program in the proper sense, it is extremely useful for
    students of Finnish. Finnmorf has three modules:

    1) A program manager
    2) A verb conjugater
    2) A nominals decliner
 
    The basic function of the program is to produce full paradigms for any 
    Finnish word that can be inflected. To put it differently, if you give
    the  verb module the dictionary form (= the first infinitive), it will
    display  all the several hundred other forms of the verb. If you give
    the program the  dictionary form (= nominative singular or nominative
    plural of pluralia  tantum words) of a noun, adjetive, pronoun, or
    numeral, it will display all  the other forms, with or without a
    possessive suffix, if necessary.

    The output can be directed to a diskfile, and students can thus collect
    the forms of words they are having trouble with, in addition to which
    teachers of Finnish can facilitate their work by having the program
    take care of the tedious chore of writing paradigms. Finnmorf was
    reviewed in Linguistic and Literary Computing (1988?), and I wrote an
    article describing it and the principles underlying it in Computers and
    the Humanities (1988??).
 
    I can give you more information about it if you contact me:
 
    [email protected]
 
    Eugene Holman
    Department of English
    University of Helsinki
257.12Books useful for learning FinnishTLE::SAVAGEFri Mar 04 1994 10:20188
   Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic,sci.lang
   From: [email protected] (N.O. Monaghan)
   Subject: Books for Learning Finnish
   Sender: [email protected] (Usenet News System)
   Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:36:58 GMT
   Organization: Royal Rat Catching Institute
 
 
		BOOKS USEFUL FOR LEARNING FINNISH
 
    Here is a brief incomplete list of books aimed at non-native speakers
    learning the Finnish language. I have appended short notes describing
    the contents of the book and my own views.
 
    If people would email me ([email protected]) I would be
    happy to add the comments and views of people who are acquainted with
    these books. I would also be interested in adding other books to the
    list as I know that there is at least a couple of more recent books to
    whose details I do not have access. Books based on other languages than
    English would also be very welcome.
 
    GRAMMARS, PRIMERS, PHRASE BOOKS.
 
J. Atkinson: Finnish Grammar (Helsinki, 1956)
	{ A course in Finnish grammar for the learner. It concentrates
	on explaining the grammar and thus contains only a
	few short reading passages and a very limited vocabulary.}
 
Berlitz Finnish for Travellers
	Various editions in various languages.
	{ A typical inexpensive Berlitz pocket language guide. Not of great 
	use unless you actually know a little bit already, but then helpful
	for vocabulary in various situations - especially menus.}
 
Bjo"rn Collinder: A Handbook of the Uralic Languages. Part 2. Survey of
	the Uralic Languages (Stockholm, 1957) [This may have been
	issued separately entitled 'A Finnish Primer'.]
	{ Although a book aimed at compartative linguists, the Finnish
	section contains a graded grammatical introduction together
	with reading passages and a vocabulary.}
 
Leena Horton: First Finnish (Helsinki, 1982)
	{ Teaches a very basic knowledge of Finnish with a limited
	vocabulary through pictures. There are no grammatical
	explanations beyond the translations in the vocabularies for
	each chapter. This book was designed for use with children in a
	classroom situation.}
 
Fred Karlsson: Finnish Grammar (tr Andrew Chesterman, WSOY,
	Porvoo-Helsinki-Juva, 1983).
	Finnish edition: Suomen peruskielioppi (1982)
	Swedish edition: Finsk grammatik (1978).
	{ Karrlsson systematically covers the grammar of Finnish. This
	is an excellent book - the grammar rules are easy to read and
	understand and numerous examples are given. The book uses a very
	clear and understandable style of layout. However, it is a
	grammar and will need to be used in conjunction with other
	material.}
 
John B. Olli: Fundamentals of Finnish Grammar (Northland Press, New
	York, 1958)
	{ This book concentrates mainly on long lists of declensions and
	conjugations. The approach taken is not a very helpful for the
	learner.}
 
Anges Renfors: Finnish Self-Taught (Thimm's System) with Phonetic
	Pronunciation (Marlborough's Self Taught Series, London, 1910)
	{ Quite a old one! It is really a structured vocabulary with a
	brief grammar and a mini-phrase book. Very similar in many ways
	to the modern Berlitz books.}
 
Arthur H. Whitney: Finnish (Teach Yourself Books, Hodder and Stoughton,
	1956)
	{ Being available in the cheap Teach Yourself Series, this book
	is easily and widely available. Which makes it such a shame that
	it is so bad. It consists of 20 chapters each of which has a
	grammatical section, a vocabulary, and exercises including short
	reading passages. The grammar is dreadfully complicated with the
	reader learning rare variations almost immediately. It is also
	very poorly laid out with no attempt at making it even vaguely
	easy on the eye and brain. The vocabularies seem somewhat
	pointless - they are normally 4 or 5 pages long which is an
	incredible amount of learning expected for a single chapter - it
	would have been better to include them alphabetically at the end
	of the work and then tell the reader "learn the words beigining
	with 'a' today". The exercises and reading passages are short
	and no great aid to someone working alone - as 'Teach yourself'
	implies.}
 
[ Ag, I cannot remember the author/title of this book -
	annoying as it is one of the better ones. It be
	called Finnish for Foreigners]
	{ A good book to work through, it teaches grammar and
	vocabulary in small chunks with plenty of grammatical exercises
	and reading exercises. The emphasis on obtaining a practical
	command of the language (even if mainly a reading knowledge)
	makes it very useful. I think there may well be an updated
	version available these days.}
 
 READERS
 
Robert Austerlitz: Finnish Reader and Glossary (Research and Studies in
	Uralic and Altaic Languages No 14, Indiana UP, 1963)
	{ It is some time since I have seen this and cannot remember
	much about it.}
 
 
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  From: [email protected] (Eugene Holman)
  Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
  Subject: Re: Books for Learning Finnish
  Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 08:35:39 +0200
  Organization: University of Helsinki
 
    Whitney's notorious _Teach Yourself Finnish_ has been superseded by a
    new Finnish textbook compiled according to the Council of Europe's
    Threshold guidelines on language learning. Also called _Teach Yourself
    Finnish_, it is by Terttu Leney and is an excellent introduction to
    spoken and written Finnish. The book is published by Hodder and
    Stoughton and costs �8.99 in the UK. An audio cassette is also
    available. ISBN 0-340-56174-2.
 
    Aaltio, Maija-Hellikki 1987, _Finnish for Foreigners_ 1-2, Excercises
    1-2. This is the most complete set of Finnish textbooks available. A
    complete revision of the original 1963 book which bore the same title,
    this ihas long been the standard work for teaching Finnish to
    English-speaking foreigners. The book is slightly dated with respect to
    language teaching methodology, but it takes the student from the basics
    to a solid command of the language. The 1987 edition devotes
    considerable attention to the peculiarities of spoken Finnish. Audio
    cassettes are also available.
 
    Bell, Aili Rytk�nen & Augustus Koski. 1968 _Finnish Graded Reader_,
    Foreign Service Institute. Department of State. A behemoth (744 pgs.)
    of a book, this book takes the student from the advanmced elementary
    level (approx. 500 words and basic grammar) up to unedited
    journalistic, literary, and historical texts. Jam packed with
    interesting exercises and information otherwise unavailable about
    Finnish vocabulary, idioms and phraseology. In my opinion this is the
    BEST BOOK AVAILABLE for mastering Finnish in all of its stylistic
    variety after you have learned the basics. The book is a public
    document and costs $17.50 according to the latest information I have
    available. Audio cassettes are also available.
 
    Davdijants, Artem, Inge Davidjants, Eugene Holman, Riitta
    Koivisto-Arhinm�ki. _Terve, Suomi! Conversational Finnish in video_.
    Helsinki/Tallinn 1992. This is the first attempt to produce an
    audiovisual course in Finnish. The course consists of a 45-minute video
    (VHS-PAL) dramatization of a trip to Finland, a 60-minutte audio
    cassette, and a 140-page textbook. The English version is a translation
    and expansion of the Estonian original. The course was produced under
    difficult circumstances during the last days of Soviet Estonia, and it
    has some unfortunate shortcomings. Nevertheless, it represents a
    totally new approach to presenting and teaching Finnish as a foreign
    langauge. Contact me for further information.
 
    Holman, Eugene 1984. _Handbook of Finnish Verbs. 231 Finnish verbs
    conjugated in all tenses_. Finnish Literature Sovciety. Modelled on the
    famous Barrons 201 Verbs series, this book contains a detailed
    discussion of all the regularities and peculiarities of Finnish verb
    morphology, in addition to which it has information on the cases used
    in conjunction with more than 1200 Finnish verbs. 
 
    Holman, Eugene 1986. _Finnmorf_. An MS-DOS computer program which
    generates all the forms of a Finnish verb, noun, adjective, numeral or
    pronoun if given the dictionary form. It is thus a computer emulation
    of a handbook of Finnish inflectional morphology. Particularly useful
    for teachers of Finnish because it quickly produces neatly formatted
    full paradigms which can be saved as text files for further editing.
    Available as freeware upon request from me.
 
    Lieko, Anneli 1992. _Suomen kielen fonetiikkaa ja fonologiaa
    ulkomaalaisille_ [Finnish phonetics and phonology for foreigners]. A
    clearly written presentation of the Finnish sound system intended for
    foreigners with a good reading knowledge of the language. The book
    concentrates on the learning difficulties foreigners speaking a wide
    range of languages face when trying to master Finnish pronunciation.
 
 
    -- 
    With best regards,
    Eugene Holman
University of Helsinki