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Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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252.0. "Runes" by TLE::SAVAGE (Neil, @Spit Brook) Mon Jan 18 1988 12:57

    The following data was extracted from Phillip Morrison's Scientific
    American review of the book "Runes" [author: R.I. Page. Published by
    University of California Press/British Museum. Paperbound, US$6.95].
    The book is from a series called, Reading the Past. 

    Q: What characteristics distinguish Runes from other writing? 

    A: Runes are linear marks initially designed for easy incision in wood
    that has been shaved flat with a knife. The strokes stand out easily
    against the grain. Many runes have slanting side arms on one or two
    vertical strokes cut straight across the grain, but horizontal marks
    were avoided. 

    The runic row, or script, contains 24 runes which are an adaptation of
    Roman writing but do not properly constitute an alphabet. 

    Q: What other surfaces were used? 

    A: Gold sheet, coins, medallions, whalebone, clay pots, iron shields,
    and of course stone tablets and boulders. 

    Q: Where and when did the runic script originate? 

    A: Runes undoubtedly originated among the Germanic peoples on the
    frontiers of the Roman Empire. The oldest inscriptions date from about
    200 A.D. and were found in southern Denmark. Runes were in use in
    various forms to record at least a dozen Germanic languages, including
    Gothic, Scandiavian, Frisian, and Anglo-Saxon, for about 1,500 years. 

    Q: Can scholars read runes? 

    A: Many, but not by any means all, runic texts have been deciphered. A
    major problem remains that no character order convention was ever
    established; some scholars read certain texts from left to right,
    others from right to left and claim to make equal sense from the
    inscription. 

    Q: What about rune stones claimed to have been discovered at some 40
    sites in North America? 

    A: Many show linear marks that appear to offer brief but detailed texts
    in Norse, the language of the Vikings. But not one North American find
    has been unequivocally authenticated as both genuine AND runic. To
    quote R.I. Page: "If you look for something single-mindedly enough, you
    are likely to find it; or at any rate something that looks like it; or
    at least something that has been made to look like it." 

    Q: How many authenticated runic texts are known? 

    A: Approximately 5,000 

    Q: Where are most authenicated runes likely to be found? 

    A: In Sweden, where medieval rune stones are common. These were erected
    to bear public witness, usually as memorials. Many inscriptions
    commemorate prowess in battle, some are self-glorifying. 

    Here's one remarkable example of a stone inscription that doesn't fit
    the Viking, tough-guy stereotype: 

    A graceful pillar once marked a grave mound on a farm in Norway. It
    bears a design showing the Wise Men under the Christmas Star. The text
    has been interpreted as follows:                     

    "Gunnvor, Thryorik's daughter, made a bridge in memory of her daughter
    �strior. She was the most skillful girl in Hadeland." 
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252.1Commentary, and two more referencesTLE::SAVAGEMon Jun 03 1991 14:13108
    From: [email protected] (Steinar Bang)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Runes: Magic Letters, "Post-It" stickers and Graffiti
    Date: 2 Jun 91 14:00:24 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
 
    I guess the picture most people has of runes, is that they were a form
    of writing used my shamans/magicans for communicating with the gods,
    and honoring the dead. This is of course the image one gets from
    reading the best preserved runic inscriptions, which are "raised
    stones" with runic inscriptions. (I wonder what picture one would get
    of the Latin alphabet, if the only preserved writings were inscriptions
    on gravestones and monuments).
 
    There was a popular scientific program about the runic inscriptions on
    NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting Corp.) television this morning, I am going
    to try to post *my* interpretation of it (mixed with stuff I have from
    other sources, so read it with an implicit disclaimer).
 
    Runes seems to have been present among the germanic speaking peoples of
    europe at an early stage. They show (I am told) a strong resemblance to
    the celtic oghams. They also show obvious resemblances to the
    latin/greek family of alphabets.
 
    It is obvious that runes had its magical uses. In the norse
    mytholgy/folklore there was a strong belief in "name magic". That is:
    if you knew someone's/something's true name you could control him/it.
    If you wrote down the name it was a powerful magic tool (almost like
    voodoo). By the same rule, you would try to avoid calling powerful
    beeings and forces by their real name to avoid calling them, and
    perhaps annoying them.
 
    A swedish scientist (in the TV program) saw the origin of runes as more
    prosaic. His opinion was that runes orginated from a need for marking
    trading goods, especially with regard to ownership, when sending the
    goods far (i.e. when trading with the Roman Empire).
 
    He backed his theory with findings from archeological excavations in
    Bergen, Norway. Among these findings were a lot of simple everyday
    messages ("Post-It" stickers, as it were! ;-) on wood and bone. These
    inscriptions dated to medival times (the 13th, and 14th century AD).
    This was at a time when christanity was well established in Norway, and
    Latin letters were well known. For latin letters, however, you needed
    pens, ink and parchment. Parchment, especially was expensive, and not
    to be wasted on trivialities.
 
    If you had a knife (as everybody had, at that time), and a splinter of
    wood, or a piece of bone, you used runes. The runes were more suited to
    "rissing" (inscription? engraving?) than were Latin letters. It seems
    that many, maybe even most, people at that time were runic litterates.
    Therefore runes coexisted with latin writing, until the time of the
    Black Plague (1349, in Norway).
 
    According to the scientists, the runic writings mirrors the spoken
    language at that time, much better that does suviving contemporary
    Latin documents. 
 
    Seemingly backing the runic litterate theory, are also the otherwise
    incongrous runic graffiti, found in as diverse places as the Sophia
    Cathedral in Miklagardr (Constantinople, maybe put there by a couple of
    bored Varangian Guardsmen), The Nidaros Cathedral in Trondheim
    (=Nidaros) (about a famous Icelandic priest: "Laurensius Kalvsson is
    a..." Ehem!), and early defacing of gravemounds by wayfarers taking
    shelter ("I xxx slept with...").
 
    The runic alphabet (or "'futhark', not 'alphabet'!!" as a friend of
    mine likes to correct me ;-), had an active lifetime of some 1400 odd
    years, and was at the end a fairly sophistcated form of expression.
    This kind of ruins my picture of runes as something jealously guarded
    by filthy primitive shamans. Oh Well! One can't choose ones ancestors,
    I guess.
 
    - Steinar (or is it: "Stainiawarjar")

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    From: [email protected] (Bill Schulz)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Runes: Magic Letters, "Post-It" stickers and Graffiti
    Date: 3 Jun 91 04:31:31 GMT
    Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
 
 
    I thought I might add a couple of references for those who want to
    follow up on Steinar's information.
 
    For an excellent discussion of Runes, their history and use, see
             
    Haugen, Einar  THE SCANDINAVIAN LANGUAGES, Cambridge, Mass, 1976.
 
    The above book contains scientific information, mostly of a linguistic
    nature, though Haugen could not refrain from evaluating the
    mythological origin of the Runes.
 
    If you want information on Runes as magic, see
 
    Thorsson, Edred,  FUTHARK (sorry, exact citation unavailable, but last
    20 years)    
 
    There are several other books by Thorsson on the same theme, but this
    is probably the fundamental one.  This is not a  scientific book;  if
    you don't believe in magic it will put you off, but it does have a lot
    of historical information  in it.  Thorsson was trying to be very
    accurate.
 
   |                          Bill Schulz
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252.2Used with pen & ink or printing on paper? TLE::SAVAGEFri Aug 14 1992 11:5436
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Per-Erik Martin)
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Student
    Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:00:32 GMT
 
    In article <[email protected]>
    [email protected] (Anders Andersson) writes:
 
   >Were the runes ever used on paper or similar material (perhaps in
   >Dalarna), i.e. written with something like a pen?  If so, did that
   >contribute to the development of the glyphs, and how?
 
    No, not to my knowledge, except maybe in Dalarna in the end. With that
    branch of runes as the exception the number of runes weren't really
    increased, unless you count dotted and undotted runes as different
    ones. The need for two different a-runes and two different r-runes
    (important differences in the beginning one must presume) disappeared
    so they came to be used for different sounds instead, and dots where
    introduced to distinguish between u/y, i/e and k/g for instance. In the
    beginning of the 17th century, when the use of runes among common
    people had almost stopped, the futhark was virtually the same as it
    were 800 years earlier, with the minor changes mentioned above. By then
    the interest in national history and the ancestors writings had grown
    among the higher, educated classes (who of course learned to read and
    write the latin alphabet) and attempts to "save" the runes were made.
    Johannes Bureus published his "Runa ABC-bok" in 1611, and they even
    planned to publish books printed with runes instead of latin
    characters. Bureus tried to design a futhark-style suitable for
    handwriting with pen and ink, but I don't think it were ever used.
 
    --
     |\/|\/|\/| Per-Erik Martin,
     |  |  |/\| Department of Computer Systems, Uppsala University,
     |/\|  |  | Email: [email protected]
                                                                      
252.3Runes in North America: claim and counterclaimTLE::SAVAGEMon Dec 20 1993 10:4975
    From: [email protected] (joseph d scott)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: The Vikings!
    Date: 17 Dec 1993 01:38:15 GMT
    Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
 
 
    In 1898 Olof Ohman, who had immigrated from Sweden in 1879, claimed he
    had found a runestone partially enwrapped by the roots of a poplar tree
    while he was clearing farm land.  The stone told the story of a group
    of viking explorers who had gone on a bit of a fishing trip in
    Minnesota in 1362, when half of their number were slaughtered by
    natives.  By the end of the year it had been easily demonstrated as a
    fake, not in the least because it was written in a dialect unique to
    the Norwegian and Swedish immigrants in Minnesota in the nineteenth
    century.  Unfortunately, ten years later it was purchased by one
    Hjalmar Rued Holand, a Norwegian writer (and graduate of the University
    of Wisconsin), who spent the next fifty years vociferously proclaiming
    the stone's fourteenth century origin.  He was successful enough that
    the Smithsonian exhibited the stone as genuine in 1948.
 
    Nevertheless, analysis of the stone revealed that it had been carved no
    earlier than 1880, using a one-inch chisel of the type commonly
    available in turn of the century Minnesota hardware stores.  The carver
    had a passing knowledge of the runic alphabet and the odd local
    dialect.  At least one third of the runes on the stone are either
    unknown in 14th century usage, or are in open conflict with it.  And
    the dialect is unlike any other that has ever been used, except the
    local dialect in Minnesota around 1900.
 
    It is called the Kensington Stone, after a town in the county it was
    discovered in.  Hundreds of stones were unearthed in Minnesota in its
    wake, most of them even more blatant frauds then the Kensington Stone
    was, and none of which has proved genuine.  In addition, some 50 stones
    have been manufactured and found in Oklahoma, but again, all so far
    have been patently fraudulent.
 
    [Info taken from _The Vikings in History_, F. Donald Logan]
 
    Joe
 
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    Joseph Scott
    University of Arizona
    [email protected]
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    From: [email protected] (OddMagne Sekkingstad)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: The Vikings!
    Date: 18 Dec 1993 23:10:38 GMT
    Organization: Institute of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway
 
    In 1908 the Norwegian-American historian Hjalmar Holand got the stone.
    He interpreted the text on the flat side as follows: "Eight Goths [from
    Go"taland in Sweden] and twenty-two Norwegian on an expedition from
    Vinland to the west. We camped at two capes[or reefs] one day north of
    this stone. We went fishing. When we came back we found ten men red
    with blood, and dead. AVM[Ave Maria] save us from harm[or
    destruction]."

    The text on the edge read:"Ten men have been sent to the sea to look
    for our ship fourteen days' journey from this island. Anno 1362."
 
    The latest supporting evidence of such an expedition is a note written
    on a copy of Poe Urban's map, just west of the Canadian lakes, which
    reads: "Newly discovered land." [Cortesa'o, 1954]
 
    It is belived that the Kensington stone has something to do with the
    Scandinavian-English expedition in America in 1360-1364.
 
    -- 
 
    Odd-Magne