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Conference turris::scandia

Title:All about Scandinavia
Moderator:TLE::SAVAGE
Created:Wed Dec 11 1985
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:603
Total number of notes:4325

77.0. "Looking for a scandinavian name." by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Mar 31 1986 11:04

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77.1Here's threeCURIE::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneMon Mar 31 1986 11:396
                You wouldn't  be  danish?    My two daughters have danish 
        names that pronounce  very  easily.    Pia and Anette (Annette is 
        just as Danish).  My wife's name is Kirsten and works out just as 
        well. (Mine works terribly).
        
        Anker
77.2NamesMASTER::FRIBERGMon Mar 31 1986 16:127
    Well, my grandmothers are Olga and Sigrid. Some others that spring
    to mind are Marta, Dagmar, Birgitta, Pia, Inga, Ingrid, Kirsten,
    and of course, my personal favorite - Kristen. Perhaps someone can
    get you a Swedish/Norwegian/Danish/Finnish phone book. There are
    many beautiful names. 
    
    Kristen.
77.3More namesMASTER::FRIBERGMon Mar 31 1986 16:163
    I thought of two more...Kari and Elsa.
    
    Kristen.
77.4Finnish namesSTAR::JJOHNSONJim JohnsonMon Mar 31 1986 21:5910
    Most of the names in the first reply have been either Swedish or
    Danish.  Finnish names can be very hard to pronounce, but here are
    some easier ones: Heli, Outi, Tuula, Auli, Liisa, Katriina.  I have
    three nieces whose names are Kukka-Maaria, Suvi-Tuulia and Pilvi-
    Paivikki (umlaut on the a in the second part of the name).  A friend
    of mine has a baby girl whose name is Charlotte Maria.  Looking
    at the previous reply; you might want to be careful with Kari, because
    in Finnish it is a boys' name.
    
    Sirkku Tuulikki (very hard to pronounce...)
77.5Norwegian namesSEARS::DICKEYTue Apr 01 1986 13:452
    A couple of my favorites are Mariana and Hilde.
    
77.6More Finnish NamesHELIX::NIEMITue Apr 01 1986 16:418
    Here are some more Finnish names:
    
    Liisa
    Tiina
    Kristiina
    Helin
    Seija (say ya')
    
77.7LINDYMENTOR::BIGELOWDave BigelowWed Apr 02 1986 14:445
    We used to call our grandmother, who came from Sweden, Lindy. I
    believe is is a nickname for Lindell, but not sure. 
    Anyway, I always thought it was a very nice name. (Hope you do too!).
    
    Dave
77.8BLITZN::PALORik @(oo)@ PaloMon Apr 07 1986 09:017
    
    I named my daughter Krista Marie,  and I am also fond of Thora,
    Maija, and Freda.
    
    	terveisin
    
    		\rik
77.9BOYS SCANDINAVIAN NAME(HELP)MMO01::SWENDSBOEMon Sep 15 1986 19:136
    LOOKING FOR A BOYS NAME
    MY NAME IS STORM,BROTHERS ARE NEIL AND ERIC AND FATHER IS HANS
    I HAVE A BABY ON THE WAY AND AM LOOKING FOR SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS
    ON NORWEGIAN OR SCANDINAVIAN NAMES FOR A BOY
    
    
77.10What if it's a girl?SWSNOD::RPGDOCDennis the MenaceThu Sep 18 1986 14:456
    We named our son Andrew, thinking it a good Celtic name, forgetting
    that his maternal grandfather's name was Andrew (he goes by A. Delbert
    Peterson) and before that his maternal ancestors included three
    more by the name of Anders, although I'm not certain if that is
    the same root meaning as Andrew.  Anders may not go well with a
    name beginning with S.
77.11How about FELIX?STAR::HAMNQVISTPer HamnqvistSun Oct 05 1986 13:5315
    Most of the names found in a Swedish calender were probably cool
    100 years ago .. so don't look there. Other common Swedish names
    have equivalencies in English:
    
    	Stefan, Peter, Per, Anders, Johan, Lars, Tomas, Erik, �ke ...
    
    Friends of mine in Valbonne wanted a name for their boy that could
    be easily pronounced in Swedish, English and French. They named
    him FELIX.
    
    Sometimes I wonder why my mom never gave me a more "International"
    name. Pronouncing my name in English or French is just as difficult
    for others as it is for me .. not to mention the spelling.
    
    >Per
77.12Once a Viking...USFHSL::ROYERDave ROYER, KZO, dtn 454-3335Tue Jan 13 1987 17:515
    
    I have a son Kjell Erik..Kj is sounded like a Ch.. and a Daughter
    
    Kirsten Kai.. hope that these help and I am not too late.
    
77.13ECCGY1::JAERVINENimpersonal nameWed Jan 14 1987 04:243
    Kai would be a boy's name (at least in Finland and Sweden, spelled
    Kaj in Sweden).
    
77.14More names requestedTHRILL::FRIBERGWed Jan 14 1987 11:128
    
    I am interested in finnish, swedish, norwegian names for a female. 
    I'd prefer one which does not have a common usage in the US. (For 
    example, 'Kristen' used to be unusual, but its now very common.) 
    I don't mind if it is difficult to spell/pronounce for english speakers.  
    (non-english vowels and letter combinations are fine)        
    Thanks for suggestions,   
    kristen
77.15MADMAC::LILLEMORLillemor HamnqvistWed Jan 14 1987 12:367
    Here comes some Swedish female names :
    
    Sofia, Anna, Johanna, Emma, Eva, Maria, Viktoria, Katarina, Karin,
    Karina, Elinor, Elin, Lena, Helena, Birgitta, Ing-Marie, Ingrid.
    
    
77.16And Some From NorwayFDCV10::BESTWed Jan 14 1987 13:1511
    
    	Hi Kristen!
    
    	Some of the more notable names I remember from Norway were Beate,
    Trude, Elin, Eli, Eli-Metta, Eva, Elisa, Ronhild (I don't have a
    compose character on this terminal.  That's with a o/) and many
    others.  I'll get my class list tonight and get more for you tomorrow
    if you'd like.
    
    						-Jerry
    
77.17a few more...LEROUF::PALO� bient�t!Thu Jan 15 1987 05:5017
    I like some of these:
    
    	Gudrun
    	Maija
    	S�lveig
    	Sigga
    	N�na
    	Hildur
    	Erna
    	Kara
    	Taina
    	Th�ra
    	�sd�s
          
    The nationalities is left as an exercise.
    
    	/rikki
77.18My two favorite female namesTLE::SAVAGENeil, @Spit BrookFri Jan 16 1987 09:201
    Barbro och Britt
77.20scandinavian namesCYGNUS::OLSENThu Jan 29 1987 15:543
     
  how about HANNA AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE ANNA [my grandmother]
    charlotta
77.19scandinavian names 77.9CYGNUS::OLSENThu Jan 29 1987 15:594
    
    ps to 77.9 
    another favorite is Annika [good in any scandinavian language]
    
77.21<Anna Maja>LEDS3::KOONTZKathy KoontzFri Sep 11 1987 13:376
    
    My Swedish grandmother's name was Anna Maja, pronounced like On-na
    My-ya.  (American's often mis-pronounce it like Ann with an "a" and
    May-a)   When pronounced properly, I think it's a very pretty name!!
    
        
77.22jeg hveit meg eit navn...SUGAR::FERGUSONWed Sep 23 1987 22:385
    now i'm REALLY curious - what was final decision
    on the original note 137.0???
    
    [my favorites were Johan, Olaf, Bjarne, Hans, Steinar, ...]
    
77.23Names for MalesDATOR::NELSONDavid W. Nelson, MK02-1/J12, 264-4523Wed Aug 23 1989 11:387
    
    	My sister-in-law is expecting a baby in late November.  She asked
     	me to gather up some names.  Most of the names in the replies are 
    	female names.  Does anybody have any male names they would like to
    	suggest?
    
    	Thanks.
77.24Boys' names - SwedishMLTVAX::SAVAGENeil @ Spit BrookWed Aug 23 1989 11:584
   Swedish first names, male:
    
    Bj�rn, Hans, Per, Jan, Olaf, Erik (my father-in-law's name), Karl,
    Sven, Raoul, Ingemar, Lars, Henrik, Anders, Nils, Stefan
77.25 CASPRO::FOSSNESWed Aug 23 1989 13:279
    I have a few other names that you can add to Neil's list...
    
    Neil's list included most of the "international type" scandinavian
    names.   The ones below may not be as good...here goes.
    
    Thor, Tor, Thorstein,Torbjorn,Roar, Harald, Haakan,Rolf,Steinar,
    Svein,Jon,Atler,Dag,Vidar,Martin,Peter,Geir,Torgeir,Ole,Arild,
    Frodar...
    
77.26Finnish Names (Male)THRUST::NIEMIWed Aug 23 1989 14:207
    Here's some Finnish boys' names (some old, some new):
    
    Antti	Armas	Arvo	Asko	Eero	Eino	Esko	Eugeni	Heikki
    Jorma	Jussi	Kasperi	Kauko	Lasse	Lauri	Matti	Mikko	Otto 
    Paavali	Pauli	Seppo	Teemu	Timo	Tero 	Toivo	Uuno    Yry�
    V�ino 
         
77.27VAXUUM::T_PARMENTERNo brain no painWed Aug 23 1989 14:2517
    I like the combo names:

	Per-Otto.  Finn-Hugo.  Hans-Olai.

    Some singles:

	Arne.  Kjell.  Bjarne.

    These are my wife's relatives and I've never seen the names spelled
    out.  (These are six exceptionally nice men, by the way.) 

    My wife's name is Antonie (after her grandfather, Anton).  Her mother
    was Borg and other female relatives are Doris, Dagne, Anna, Sonja,
    Bergliot, Eva, Solveig . . .

    Some of these names look sort of lumpy in English, but they're all very
    nice sounding p� Norsk.  
77.28VAXUUM::T_PARMENTERNo brain no painWed Aug 23 1989 14:331
    Oops.  Borg is short for Borghild.
77.29Some more Finnish namesMOVIES::JJOHNSONJim Johnson, VMS Development/EuropeWed Aug 23 1989 15:328
    Some more Finnish names:
    
    Miikka (my eldest son's name), Tapio (my youngest son's middle name),
    Ilkka (*my* father in law's name :-)), Jouko (my brother in law's name)
    
    Also ...
    
    Oiva, Matti, Pekka, ...
77.302�NORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteWed Aug 23 1989 18:223
When I have a son, I hope to name him Leif Erik or Erik Leif

chad
77.33Some Swedish namesLKPDEE::HOLWASTER�sa Holwaster SWAS/Mfg, @LNK SwedenFri Aug 25 1989 10:5517
    
    Here are some swedish names that I like:
    
    first names, male: 
    
      Johan, Bengt, Mats , Sven, Ulf, Gunnar, H�kan, Kjell, B�rje, Erik
    
    first names, female:
    
      Ylva, Ulrika, Monika, Karin, Katarina, Birgitta, Maria, Ingela
    
    and of course there is my own, completely hopeless name for
    international use:
    
       �sa
    
      
77.32What's in a Scandinavian last name?WHYVAX::SAVAGENeil @ Spit BrookTue Nov 07 1989 13:0386
    From: [email protected] (Annika Waern)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Nordic names etc.
    Date: 7 Nov 89 15:02:49 GMT
    Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Stockholm (Kista), 
    Sweden
    
    In-Reply-To: [email protected] (Fridrik Skulason)
 
    In article <[email protected]>, frisk@rhi (Fridrik Skulason) writes:
 
    >	When (and why) did the Scandinavian countries start using
    >	family names, instead of the old patronymic system ?
 
    I spent some time looking into this question last year. I can't give
    you references (I don't have access to the books I read and I've lost
    my notes) but this is what I remember about Swedish name history:
 
    There was a VERY limited use of family names by nobility during the
    fourteenth and fifteenth century. There were essentially two origins of
    family names from that time: One was that a set of about five families
    had  family devices, and took names inspired from these. I seem to
    remember that two such families were "Bonde" and "B��th". The other
    origin was foreign nobility moving into the country, mostly germans,
    where family names were used earlier. One example is the "Trolle"
    family, which was of Danish origin where nobility used family names
    earlier. The Trolle family actually CHANGED their device (during the
    fourteenth  century, I think) to a troll head, to match the family
    name.
    
    There seem to be some confusion about this in literature. One author I
    read claimed that several nobel families had names, although these 
    names were NOT used in the personal names of members of the family.
    There  are examples where only one living person actually used the
    family name,  the other members of the family did not. Swedish
    historians have had a  tendency to always add on the family name to any
    person in any family that had a "label" - even sometimes in families
    which did not get a "label" until much later !
 
    During the fifteenth and sixteenth century, more nobility moved in, and
    more and more people were made nobility. It became more and more common 
    that nobility had family names. In about 1620 (I dont remember the
    exact  year) a nobility register was formed. Each nobility family had
    to have a  family name and a family device. Most nobility names were
    constructed then. These are VERY proud and bulky names such as
    "Stjernhjelm" or  "Oxenstierna".
 
    Of course, this became a fashion. During the seventeenth century the 
    bourgoise started to take family names; these were mostly inspired by
    nature, flowers and water, and sound vaguely similar to the late
    nobility names. "Liljeh��k", "Rosenblad", "Silverlind" and similar
    names are  products of this "fad".
 
    I don't think that common people started to take family names in the 
    real sense until during or after this time (But I do not know for
    sure.) Of course, some earlier name traditions such as adding the name
    of the  homestead to ones name (Such as "Tjuls-Erik Karlsson") or
    adding ones  occupation to the name ("Anders Skr{ddare") could become
    very similar to  family names, as the homestead or occupation often was
    inherited from  father to son.
 
    During the eighteenth and nineteenth century several families  started
    to use especially homestead names but also profession labels or 
    "nicknames" as family names. From this period we also have the soldier 
    names: soldiers were often given names in the army (Stridh, Waern,
    Eldh...). These names were inherited, but originally not by the
    children but by  the next soldier living in the same homestead. I don't
    know when these  names started to be used as pure family names;
    propably during the  nineteenth century.
 
    The least old tradition is that of -son-names. As family names, that
    is. The use of patronymica is ancient. When the government started to
    require people to use family names, people simply used the same
    patronymica as  their father. I wonder when the first woman with
    Andersson as her maiden name was born ? Most of the -son names were
    turned to family names during  the nineteenth century, but in some
    backwards or conservative parts of Sweden the patronymica tradition
    lived on into the beginning of this century.
 
    The patronymica for women was -dotter. It's a curious fact that today
    in Sweden, you are not allowed to use a proper patronymica as last
    name. You can add a patronymica as a "middle name", but you must also
    have a family name.
 
    Annika Gustavsdotter Lida (Annika Waern)
    [email protected]
77.31If my father's name is Elmer, then...ASABET::MATTSSONOff to the Hundred Acre Wood...Thu Nov 09 1989 12:368
    There are some other things that happen with names too.  My mother's
    maiden name is Lorentson, but in going back to the geneological data,
    the name dates back to Lars Lorenz.  I didn't understand it at first
    until someone told me that Lorent is latin for Lars.  I would never had
    figured on that!  I guess the farmers wanted to jazz up there name.
    
    >>>Ken (Hjalmarsson) Mattsson
    
77.34Helge vs. HelgaTLE::SAVAGEThu May 09 1991 16:3021
    From: [email protected] (Helge Nareid)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: What's in a name
    Date: 8 May 91 13:55:28 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim
 
   The problem I've got with my name is that most English-speaking people
   assume it is a girl's name. There's no problem in Scandinavia, 
   everybody here knows that :
	Helge (ending with an E) is a man's name
	Helga (ending with an A) is a woman's name
   It is a (minor) source of irritation, however, to get letters 
   adressed to _Ms_ Helge Nareid all the time. The confusion normally
   ends when I meet people, however - a full beard does make a difference.
 
   - Helge
   -- 
   Helge Nareid                             E-mail :    [email protected]
   SINTEF Applied Physics                   Phone  :    + 47 - 7 - 59 34 18
   Trondheim, Norway                        Fax    :    + 47 - 7 - 59 34 20
77.35But she looks like a girlRAGMOP::T_PARMENTERNot The GunWed Jun 12 1991 09:502
That's as may be, but my wife's Norwegian name is Antonie and she gets
taken for a male all the time.  She's named after her grandfather, Anton.
77.36Don't forget the DanesCSC32::MOLLERFix it before it breaksThu Jul 25 1991 20:537
	Good Danish Names for boys (boys in family):

	Jens, Gregers & Uffe


							Jens 

77.37NorwegianTLE::SAVAGETue Sep 17 1991 10:4160
    From: [email protected] (Truls Ostbye)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Norwegian unisex names (was "Kettil")
    Date: 17 Sep 91 02:42:59 GMT
 
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Hallvard Paulsen) writes:

   > 	And the fact that you allways can tell from the name what
   > sex a Norwegian is is a big differense from the US. I realy can't
   > understand how people can use the same name for boys and girls!
   > 
   > 	Hallvard (the horrible) Paulsen
 
    the examples below are some of the most common names found as both male
    and female first names in Norway (relatively high frequency of  both
    male and female names)
 
   f indicates most commonly used as female name
   m indicates most commonly used as male name
 
   Andy m
   Benny f
   Conny f
   Jacie m
   Jerry m
   Jone m
   Jonni m
   Jonny m
   Karly f
   Lindy f
   Michele f
   Nicola f
   Nikola m
   Sonny f
   Tonny f
   Tony m
   Eidis m
   Herlaug f
   Inge m
   Ingeleiv f
   Joerund m
   Kristen m
   Oleif m
   Oleiv m
   Orla m
   Rollaug f
   Sigrid f
   Joeran m
   Joerand f
   Soelve m
   Kim m
 
 
 
   -- 
   Truls 0stbye                                      Tel (519) 661 2111
   Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics      Fax (519) 661 3766
   University of Western Ontario                     [email protected]
   London, Ontario N6A 5C1, CANADA                   [email protected]
77.38Norwegian referenceTLE::SAVAGEFri Sep 20 1991 12:4928
    From: [email protected]
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Norwegian unisex names followup
    Date: 20 Sep 91 12:47:33 GMT
 
    Re: list of Norwegian unisex names
 
    Thanks to everybody who sent me e-mail re. the unisex name list.
 
    Several individuals suggested that this was a list of
    Norwegian-American names (from North Dakota, Minnesota etc.) given to
    American children of Norwegian descent.
 
    However, the source was "closer to home":
 
    Hva skal barnet hete? 
    Schibsteds forlag
    7. utgave, Oslo 1990

    "2000 gutte- og pike-navn som brukes i Norge, med opprinnelse og
    betydning... med bistand fra Justisdepartementet, Institutt for Nordisk
    Spraak og litteratur ved Universitetet i Oslo samt Prosjekt for
    datamaskinell  spraakbehandling ved Nordisk Institutt, Universitetet i
    Bergen"
 
    This book can be found in most Norwegian bookstores
 
    Truls
77.39Re: .21: Swedish patronymicsTLE::SAVAGEThu Jul 30 1992 12:0496
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic,soc.roots
    From: [email protected] (Anders Andersson)
    Subject: Swedish patronymics 
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Uppsala University, Sweden
    Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:22:06 GMT
 
    --
    Anders Andersson, Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University
    Paper Mail: Box 520, S-751 20 UPPSALA, Sweden
    Phone: +46 18 183170   EMail: [email protected]
 
    --------- Text on Swedish patronymics follows ---------
 
    One important thing to keep in mind for the genealogist doing research
    in Sweden, is the Swedish use of patronymic last names, practiced until
    the middle to late 19th century.  Before then, very few among the
    general populace maintained any single family name over the generations
    (the primary exception was the nobility, but there were also other
    families of some rank that had their specific family names).
 
    Ordinary country people generally used patronymics.  When it was not
    sufficient to mention a person by his or her first (or rather only)
    name, such as "Maria" or "Anders", various qualifications were added,
    of which the dominant form was to specify who was the person's father,
    thus one talked about "Maria, Johans dotter" (daugther) or "Anders,
    Olofs son". This became so commonplace that it was shortened into
    "Maria Johansdotter" and "Anders Olofsson".  Thus one line of
    successive male descendants could look as follows (this is an example
    of an actual line, with approximate years of birth within parentheses):
 
	Daniel Bryngelsson (1710)
	Pehr Danielsson (1740)
	Jonas Persson (1770)
	Olof Jonasson (1800)
	Anders Olofsson (1830)
	Anders Andersson (1860)
 
    i.e. even though two persons were father and son in the same household,
    they didn't share their last names.  Women didn't change their names
    when they got married; a combination like "Maria Olofsson" would have
    been self-contradictory and unthinkable in those days.  Both first and
    last name were specific to each individual in a family.  If the father
    died and the mother remarried with a man having a different first name,
    the children from her first marriage maintained their original
    patronymic.
 
    Spelling wasn't crucial, and some names had several forms which were
    considered equal.  Thus the sons of Peter, Petter, Per or Pehr all had
    the 'same' last name:  Persson, Pehrsson or Pettersson.  Likewise,
    Olofsson was often shortened Olsson with no change in meaning, and the
    same with Johansson/Jonsson etc.
 
    What happened in the 19th century was no less than a naming revolution,
    by many judged as a cultural disaster.  Here I make no attempt to
    explain the reason for the change, as my knowledge of it is very
    limited.  The net effect was that unless the family adopted a
    non-patronymic surname, whatever patronymic name happened to be in use
    by the father was suddenly inherited by his children, men and women
    alike, and maybe also adopted by his wife.
 
    At the time of this writing, the abovementioned change took place some
    three generations ago.  Today the old practice is only in very limited
    use at a few (mostly rural) places in Sweden, something which has been
    made easier by recent changes to the Swedish name law.
 
    The rest of Scandinavia has a similar naming tradition, with -sen being
    a common replacement for -son in Denmark and Norway.  In Iceland, the
    patronymic practice lives on to this day.
 
    Thus, if you have a surname ending in -son, and Swedish ancestors who
    emigrated before ca 1900, the chance that you will find any relatives
    by looking up your surname in Swedish telephone directories of today is
    very slim, if not nonexistent.  At the time of the change, a lot of
    people adopted family names with no requirements of uniqueness, and as
    most patronymics were formed from very common, male first names,
    thousands of families all across Sweden ended up with surnames like
    Andersson (2700), Bengtsson (200), Eriksson (3000), Fredriksson (200),
    Gustafsson (1100), Jakobsson (200), Jansson (1500), Johansson (1900),
    Jonsson (500), Karlsson (2000), Larsson (1200), Mattsson (400), Nilsson
    (900), Olsson (900), Persson (700), Pettersson (1500), and Svensson
    (400), if we limit ourselves to names with at least 200 entries in the
    Uppsala telephone directory of some 80,000 subscribers (the approximate
    count for each name being mentioned in parentheses for comparison),
    without being particularly related to each other.
 
    This doesn't mean doing genealogy in Sweden is particularly difficult;
    on the contrary it's quite easy due to the availability of lots of
    written records.  You simply need to be aware of this phenomenon, and
    maybe take on a slightly different approach as compared to research in
    other countries.  However, a general introduction to genealogy in
    Sweden is outside the scope of this text.
 
    Please send comments on this document to [email protected].
 
    --------- End of text on Swedish patronymics ---------
77.40Belated UpdateMETSYS::NELSONTribeless and NomadicWed Aug 19 1992 11:5918
    	RE: .12
    
    	It has been awhile, but I thought I'd respond (Just in case anyone
    	is still or was interested).
    
    	She has three children now and their names are:
    
    			Ingrid
    			Eleanor (Actually I don't know which spelling she uses)
    			Magnus
    
    	BTW - Does any one know if `Wilmer' is or was popular?  Its my
    	      middle name and it was `handed down' to me from the Swedish side
    	      of my family.
    
    	Cheers,
    
    	David
77.41AMCCXN::BERGHPeter Bergh, DTN 523-3007Wed Aug 19 1992 16:548
          <<< Note 77.27 by METSYS::NELSON "Tribeless and Nomadic" >>>
                              -< Belated Update >-
    
<<    	BTW - Does any one know if `Wilmer' is or was popular?  Its my
<<    	      middle name and it was `handed down' to me from the Swedish side
<<    	      of my family.

FWIW, (I'm Swedish and) I've never met anybody else who bears that name.
77.42Name listTLE::SAVAGETue Sep 01 1992 15:32129
    From: [email protected] (Kim Chr. Madsen)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: translation wanted
    Date: 22 Aug 92 20:48:36 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Torkel
    Franzen) writes:

   >  Name days in the Nordic countries are not Saint's days, but just names
   >stuck into the calendar. I don't who the poster was who didn't know
   >what "name day" meant, but as indicated in the posting from Finland,
   >name days are a part of life here.
 
    Not strictly true, unlike the other nordic countries the danish
    universityalmanac has kept the old list of day-names almost intact, and
    it is all the old catholic saints (and a few mundane ones).
 
    In Norway the names disappeared from the almanac in 1912, in Iceland
    they disappeared in 1971, In Sweden the name list was transformed and
    modernized in 1901. The Danish almanac has kept the name list, that
    found it's final form in the 1720's, most of the names stems from the
    german almanacs of the 16th century.
 
    All this said few people in Denmark use these names or are even aware
    that they exist, although at least one major newspaper "Politiken" each
    day has a column "Fra dag til dag" (From day to day) where they give
    the name of the day and a description of the person behind the name.
 
    For those interested in further information of this I recommend reading
    the "N�gle til Almanakken - en ledsager til hvert �rs almanak" (Key to
    the Almanac - a companion to each year's almanac) published by
    "K�benhavns Universitet" (University of Copenhagen). ISBN:
    87-17-05112-1
 
						Kim Chr. Madsen

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    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Robert Lindh)
    Subject: Re: NameDay (Was: translation wanted)
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
    Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:44:07 GMT
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Vicky
    Hansen) writes:

  >There has been a lot of discussion about name days - is anyone willing to
  >post a list?
  >   ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    OK, here is a list from a swedish calendar called 'Lilla Veckoplan
    1992' ('Mini Week Planner' or similiar in english, published by
    'Datumf�rlaget AB' in Malm�). I will list the names for all days in one
    month in numerical sequence, then indicate the next month etc.
 
January:
- Svea Alfred Rut Hanna - August Erland Gunnar Sigurd Hugo Frideborg Knut Felix
Laura Hjalmar Anton Hilda Henrik Fabian Agnes Vincent Emilia Erika Paulus
Botilda G�te Karl Valter Gunhild Ivar
(interpretation: Alfred is jan 3, Erland is jan 8 etc, - means that no name
is connected to this date)

February:
Max - Disa Ansgar Agata Dorotea Rikard Berta Fanny Eugenia Yngve Evelina
Agne Valentin Sigfrid Julia Alexandra Frida Gabriella Hulda Hilding Martina
Torsten - Mattias Sigvard Torgny Lage Maria

March:
Albin Ernst Gunborg Adrian Tora Ebba Ottilia Filippa Torbj�rn Edla Edvin
Viktoria Greger Matilda Kristofer Herbert Gertrud Edvard Josef Joakim
Bengt Viktor Gerda Gabriel - Emanuel Rudolf Malkolm Jonas Holger Ester

April:
Harald Gudmund Ferdinand Ambrosius Nanna Vilhelm Ingemund Hemming Otto
Ingvar Ulf Julius Artur Tiburtius Olivia Patrik Elias Valdemar Olavus-Petri
Amalia Anselm Albertina Georg Vega Markus Teresia Engelbrekt Ture Tyko
Mariana

May:
Valborg Filip G�ta Monika Gotthard Sigmund Gustava �ke Jonatan Esbj�rn M�rta
Charlotta Linnea Halvard Sofia Hilma Rebecka Erik Alrik Karolina Konstantin
Henning Desideria Ragnvald Urban Vilhelmina Blenda Ingeborg Baltsar Fritjof
Isabella 

June:
Nikodemus Rutger Ingemar Holmfrid Bo Gustav Robert Salomon B�rje Svante Bertil
Eskil Aina H�kan Justina Axel Torborg Bj�rn Germund Flora Alf Paulina Adolf
- David Rakel Selma Leo Petrus Elof 

July:
Aron Rosa Aurora Ulrika Melker Esaias Klas Kjell G�tilda Anund Eleonora Herman
Joel Folke Ragnhild Reinhold Alexis Fredrik Sara Margareta Johanna Magdalena
Emma Kristina Jakob Jesper Marta Botvid Olof Algot Elin

August:
Per Karin Tage Arne Ulrik Sixten Arnold Sylvia Roland Lars Susanna Klara 
Hillevi Ebbe Stella Brynolf Verner Helena Magnus Bernhard Josefina Henrietta
Signe Bartolomeus Lovisa �sten Rolf Augustin Hans Albert Arvid

September:
Samuel Justus Alfhild Moses Adelia Sakarias Regina Alma Augusta Tord Dagny
Tyra Ambj�rn Ida Sigrid Eufemia Hildegard Alvar Fredrika Agda Matteus Maurits
Tekla Gerhard Signild Enar Dagmar Lennart Mikael Helge 

October:
Ragnar Ludvig Evald Frans Bror Jenny Birgitta Nils Ingrid Helmer Erling
Valfrid Teofil Manfred Hedvig Fingal Antoinetta Lukas Tore Sibylla Birger
Seved S�ren Evert Inga Amanda Sabina Simon Viola Elsa Edit

November:
- Tobias Hubert Sverker Eugen Gustav-Adolf Ingegerd Vendela Teodor 
Martin-Luther M�rten Konrad Kristian Emil Leopold Edmund Napoleon Magnhild
Elisabet Pontus Helga Cecilia Klemens Gudrun Katarina Torkel Astrid Malte
Sune Anders

December:
Oskar Beata Lydia Barbro Sven Nikolaus Agaton Viriginia Anna Malin Daniel
Alexander Lucia Sten Gottfrid Assar Inge Abraham Isak Israel Tomas Natanael
Adam Eva - Stefan Johannes - Abel Set Sylvester 
 
When I have written Gustav-Adolf or Martin-Luther I actually mean 'Gustav
Adolf' and 'Martin Luther' but I have in this case used '-' to indicate
that it was not Gustav one day and Adolf the next, but in this case the
full name of ONE actual person. '-' by itself means that no name is connected
to this date.
 
Standard disclaimer: "Only my personal opinion, of course."
77.43Revised Swedish nameday list 1993TLE::SAVAGETue Sep 01 1992 15:40437
    From: [email protected] (Dan Kiselman)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: NameDay, revised Swedish list in 1993
    Date: 30 Aug 92 19:33:59 GMT
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
 
    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Vicky
    Hansen) writes:

 |> There has been a lot of discussion about name days - is anyone willing to
 |> post a list?
 
    The Swedish list posted in this group before was the list from 1901.
    This was a revised version of a still older version, everything
    originating in the catholic days of saints.
 
    In 1901 the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences had the publication of
    almanacs as a privilige, so it was clear who decided which names should
    be in the calender. (The Academy used the company Almqvist&Wiksell as 
    publisher for almanacs.) The privilege was retracted in 1972 (or
    1973?). The largest publisher of almanacs today in Sweden is the
    Esselte corporation (which had bought Almqvist&Wiksell). As such, they
    obviously think that they are the successors of the Academy of Sciences
    and may decide what the calender should look like.

    In 1986, thinking that the list of 1901 was getting old, they
    introduced a new list for name days. Other almanac publishers  followed
    after a while. The new list retained all the names from 1901 but on
    each day there were two extra names. The choice of these new names was
    critised by many people (quite justly, IMHO, the names were sometimes
    ridiculous).
 
    Now Esselte has presented another new list, to be introduced in 1993.
    The new things in this list (compared with the 1901 list) are:
 
    1. Except for a few days of special significance, there are two names
    for each day.
 
    2. Almost all 1901 names are still there. Some rare and elderly names
    have been discarded (Napoleon is gone, Tiburtius is still with us!).
    Some names have been moved to new days.
 
    3. In the 1901 calender, there were eight days without names (religious
    and other holidays). In the new calender, there are only two:
    "ny�rsdagen" (New Year's Day) and "juldagen" (Christmas Day).
 
    4. Of three historical memorial days, only one is left: Gustav Adolf
    (6/6). We have lost Olaus Petri (19/4) and Martin Luther (10/11).
 
    Personally, I think the revision could have waited till the year 2001. 
    These revisions need not to be done more often than each 100 years. I
    think that the nice thing with the name days tradition is the feeling
    of continuity with the old times, the farmer's year when things should
    be done on particular name days, not numerical dates.  Anyhow I am
    happy that the 1986 list is dead, but I wonder how many calendar
    revisions the tradition of celebrating name days ("namnsdagar") can
    take.
 
    I append the new list and apologise for possible typing errors (I did
    check it a number of times). I do not know whether Esselte will put the
    two names on each day in some particular order. Here they are arranged
    alphabetically.
 
-- 
           Dan Kiselman, Uppsala Astronomical Observatory, Sweden
           [email protected]

month   day
1        1      ny�rsdagen
1        2      Svea         Sverker
1        3      Alfred       Alfrida
1        4      Ritva        Rut
1        5      Hanna        Hannele
1        6      Baltsar      Kasper
1        7      August       Augusta
1        8      Erhard       Erland
1        9      Gunder       Gunnar
1       10      Sigmund      Sigurd
1       11      Hagar        Hugo
1       12      Frideborg    Fridolf
1       13      Knut     
1       14      Felicia      Felix
1       15      Laura        Liv
1       16      Hervor       Hjalmar
1       17      Anton        Tony
1       18      Hilda        Hildur
1       19      Henrik       Henry
1       20      Fabian       Sebastian
1       21      Agnes        Agneta
1       22      Veine        Vincent
1       23      Emelie       Emilia
1       24      Eira         Erika
1       25      Paul         P�l
1       26      Bodil        Boel
1       27      G�ta         G�te
1       28      Karl         Karla
1       29      Valter       Vilma
1       30      Gunhild      Gunilla
1       31      Ivar         Joar
2        1      Magda        Max
2        2      Marja        Mia
2        3      Disa         Hj�rdis
2        4      Anselm       Ansgar
2        5      Elise        Lisa
2        6      Dora         Dorotea
2        7      Dick         Rikard
2        8      Berta        Berthold
2        9      Betty        Fanny
2       10      Egil         Egon
2       11      Ingolf       Yngve
2       12      Evelina      Evy
2       13      Agnar        Agne
2       14      Tina         Valentin
2       15      Sigbritt     Sigfrid
2       16      Jill         Julia
2       17      Alexandra    Sandra
2       18      Frida        Fritz
2       19      Ella         Gabriella
2       20      Rasmus       Ruben
2       21      Hilding      Hulda
2       22      Marina       Marlene
2       23      Torsten      Torun
2       24      Mats         Mattias
2       25      Sigvard      Sivert
2       26      Torgny       Torkel
2       27      Lage         Laila
2       28      Maja         Maria
(In leap years ("skott�r"), 24 is called "skottdagen"
and the rest of the names for February are moved
one day forward.)
3        1      Albin        Inez
3        2      Erna         Ernst
3        3      Gunborg      Gunvor
3        4      Ada          Adrian
3        5      Tor          Tora
3        6      Ebba         Ebbe
3        7      Doris        Isidor
3        8      Saga         Siv
3        9      Ambj�rn      Torbj�rn
3       10      Edla         Ethel
3       11      Edvin        Elon
3       12      Viktor       Viktoria
3       13      Greger       Iris
3       14      Matilda      Maud
3       15      Christel     Kristoffer
3       16      Gilbert      Herbert
3       17      Gertrud      G�rel
3       18      Eddie        Edvard
3       19      Josef        Josefina
3       20      Joakim       Kim
3       21      Bengt        Benny
3       22      Viking       Vilgot
3       23      Gerd         Gerda
3       24      Gabriel      Rafael
3       25      Marion       Mary
3       26      Emanuel      Manne
3       27      Ralf         Raymond
3       28      Elma         Elmer
3       29      Jens         Jonas
3       30      Holger       Reidar
3       31      Ester        Estrid
4        1      Halvar       Harald
4        2      Gun          Gunnel
4        3      Ferdinand    Florence
4        4      Irene        Irja
4        5      Nanna        Nanny
4        6      Vilhelm      Willy
4        7      Irma         Mimmi
4        8      Ronja        Vanja
4        9      Ottilia      Otto
4       10      Ingvar       Ingvor
4       11      Ulf          Ylva
4       12      Gillis       Julius
4       13      Artur        Douglas
4       14      Tiburtius    Tim
4       15      Olivia       Olivier
4       16      Patricia     Patrik
4       17      Elias        Elis
4       18      Valdemar     Volmar
4       19      Ola          Olaus
4       20      Amalia       Amelie
4       21      Anneli       Annika
4       22      Alida        Allan
4       23      Georg        G�ran
4       24      Vega         Viveka
4       25      Mark         Markus
4       26      Terese       Teresia
4       27      Engelbrekt   Enok
4       28      Ture         Tyko
4       29      Kennet       Kent
4       30      Mariana      Marianne
5        1      Maj          Valborg
5        2      Filip        Filippa
5        3      Jack         John
5        4      Mona         Monika
5        5      Vivan        Vivianne
5        6      Marit        Rita
5        7      Lilian       Lilly
5        8      Ove          �ke
5        9      Gideon       Jonatan
5       10      Elvira       Elvy
5       11      M�rit        M�rta
5       12      Charlotta    Lotta
5       13      Linnea       Nina
5       14      Lill         Lillemor
5       15      Sofia        Sonja
5       16      Hilma        Hilmer
5       17      Nora         Nore
5       18      Erik         Jerker
5       19      Majken       Majvor
5       20      Karolina     Lina
5       21      Conny        Konstantin
5       22      Hemming      Henning
5       23      Desire'e     Rene'e
5       24      Ivan         Yvonne
5       25      Urban        Ursula
5       26      Helmy        Vilhelmina
5       27      Beda         Blenda
5       28      Borghild     Ingeborg
5       29      Jean         Jeanette
5       30      Frej         Fritiof
5       31      Isa          Isabella
6        1      Runa         Rune
6        2      Roger        Rutger
6        3      Gudmar       Ingemar
6        4      Solbritt     Solveig
6        5      Bo           Boris
6        6      Gustav       G�sta
6        7      Robert       Robin
6        8      Eivor        Elaine
6        9      Petra        Petronella
6       10      Karsten      Kerstin
6       11      Berit        Bertil
6       12      Esbj�rn      Eskil
6       13      Aina         Eila
6       14      Heidi        H�kan
6       15      Mait         Margit
6       16      Axel         Axelina
6       17      Torborg      Torvald
6       18      Bjarne       Bj�rn
6       19      Germund      Jerry
6       20      Linda        Linn
6       21      Alf          Alva
6       22      Paula        Paulina
6       23      Adela        Adolf
6       24      Jan          Johan
6       25      David        Salomon
6       26      Gunni        Jim
6       27      Herta        Selma
6       28      Leo          Leoplod
6       29      Peter        Petrus
6       30      Elof         Leif
7        1      Aron         Mirjam
7        2      Rosa         Rosita
7        3      Adina        Aurora
7        4      Ulla         Ulrika
7        5      Agaton       Melker
7        6      Ronald       Ronny
7        7      Kaj          Klas
7        8      Kjell        Tjelvar
7        9      J�rgen       �rjan
7       10      Anund        Gunda
7       11      Eleonora     Ellinor
7       12      Herman       Hermine
7       13      Joel         Judit
7       14      Folke        Odd
7       15      Ragnhild     Ragnvald
7       16      Reine        Reinhold
7       17      Alexis       Alice
7       18      Fred         Fredrik
7       19      Sally        Sara
7       20      Greta        Margareta
7       21      Jane         Johanna
7       22      Madeleine    Magdalena
7       23      Emma         Emmy
7       24      Kristina     Stina
7       25      Jakob        James
7       26      Jesper       Jessika
7       27      Marta        Moa
7       28      Botvid       Seved
7       29      Olle         Olof
7       30      Algot        Margot
7       31      Elin         Elna
8        1      Per          Pernilla
8        2      Kajsa        Karin
8        3      Tage         Tanja
8        4      Arne         Arnold
8        5      Alrik        Ulrik
8        6      Sixten       S�lve
8        7      Dennis       Donald
8        8      Silvia       Sylvia
8        9      Roine        Roland
8       10      Lars         Lorentz
8       11      Sanna        Susanna
8       12      Clary        Klara
8       13      Gullvi       Hillevi
8       14      Bill         William
8       15      Stella       Stellan
8       16      Brynolf      Sigyn
8       17      Verner       Veronika
8       18      Helena       Lena
8       19      Magnus       M�ns
8       20      Bernhard     Bernt
8       21      Jon          Jonna
8       22      Henny        Henrietta
8       23      Signe        Signhild
8       24      Bartolomeus  Bert
8       25      Louise       Lovisa
8       26      Ejvind       �sten
8       27      Rolf         Rudolf
8       28      Gull         Gurli
8       29      Hampus       Hans
8       30      Albert       Albertina
8       31      Arvid        Vidar
9        1      Sam          Samuel
9        2      Justina      Justus
9        3      Alfhild      Alfons
9        4      Gisela       Glenn
9        5      Harriet      Harry
9        6      Esaias       Sakarias
9        7      Regina       Roy
9        8      Ally         Alma
9        9      Anita        Anja
9       10      Tord         Tove
9       11      Dagny        Daniela
9       12      Tyra         �sa
9       13      Sture        Styrbj�rn
9       14      Ellida       Ida
9       15      Sigrid       Siri
9       16      Dag          Daga
9       17      Hildegard    Magnhild
9       18      Alvar        Orvar
9       19      Carita       Fredrika
9       20      Agata        Agda
9       21      Ellen        Elly
9       22      Maurits      Morgan
9       23      Tea          Tekla
9       24      Gerhard      Gert
9       25      K�re         Tryggve
9       26      Einar        Enar
9       27      Dagmar       Rigmor
9       28      Lennart      Leonard
9       29      Mikael       Mikaela
9       30      Helge        Helny
10       1      Ragna        Ragnar
10       2      Louis        Ludvig
10       3      Evald        Osvald
10       4      Frank        Frans
10       5      Bror         Bruno
10       6      Jennifer     Jenny
10       7      Birgitta     Britta
10       8      Nelly        Nils
10       9      Inger        Ingrid
10      10      Hadar        Helmer
10      11      Erling       Jarl
10      12      Ernfrid      Valfrid
10      13      Birgit       Britt
10      14      Helfrid      Manfred
10      15      Hedda        Hedvig
10      16      Fingal       Finn
10      17      Annette      Antonia
10      18      Lukas        Matteus
10      19      Tore         Torleif
10      20      Camilla      Sibylla
10      21      Birger       B�rje
10      22      Marika       Marita
10      23      Severin      S�ren
10      24      Eilert       Evert
10      25      Inga         Ingvald
10      26      Amanda       My
10      27      Ina          Sabina
10      28      Simon        Simone
10      29      Viola        Vivi
10      30      Elsa         Elsie
10      31      Edgar        Edit
11       1      Andre'       Andrea
11       2      Tobias       Toini
11       3      Diana        Hubert
11       4      Unn          Uno
11       5      Eugen        Eugenia
11       6      Gustav Adolf
11       7      Ingegerd     Ingela
11       8      Vanda        Vendela
11       9      Ted          Teodor
11      10      Martin       Martina
11      11      M�rten      
11      12      Konrad       Kurt
11      13      Krister      Kristian    
11      14      Emil         Mildred
11      15      Katja        Nadja
11      16      Edmund       Gudmund
11      17      Naemi        Nancy
11      18      Percy        Pierre
11      19      Elisabet     Lisbet
11      20      Pia          Pontus
11      21      Helga        Olga
11      22      Cecilia      Cornelia
11      23      Clarence     Klemens
11      24      Gudrun       Runar
11      25      Carina       Katarina
11      26      Linus        Love
11      27      Asta         Astrid
11      28      Malkolm      Malte
11      29      Sune         Synn�ve
11      30      Anders       Andreas
12       1      Oskar        Ossian
12       2      Beata        Beatrice
12       3      Carola       Lydia
12       4      Barbara      Barbro
12       5      Svante       Sven
12       6      Niklas       Nikolaus
12       7      Angela       Angelika
12       8      Vera         Virginia
12       9      Anna         Annie
12      10      Malena       Malin
12      11      Dan          Daniel
12      12      Alex         Alexander
12      13      Lucia
12      14      Sten         Stig
12      15      Gottfrid     Gotthard
12      16      Assar        Astor
12      17      Inge         Ingemund
12      18      Abraham      Efraim
12      19      Isak         Rebecka
12      20      Israel       Moses
12      21      Tom          Tomas
12      22      Natalia      Natanael
12      23      Adam     
12      24      Eva
12      25      juldagen
12      26      Staffan      Stefan
12      27      Hannes       Johannes
12      28      Benjamin     Rakel
12      29      Abel         Set
12      30      Gunl�g       �sl�g
12      31      Sylvester
77.44Finnish nameday listTLE::SAVAGETue Sep 01 1992 15:47402
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Tuomas K Kaikkonen)
    Subject: Re: NameDay
    Sender: [email protected]
    Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
    Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:42:47 GMT
 
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Vicky
    Hansen) writes:

>   There has been a lot of discussion about name days - is anyone willing to
>   post a list?
 
    Here is my list of Finnish namedays.  I wrote this once when some
    friend of mine asked could I do a list of female and male names in
    Finnish. Later I joined the female and male lists, because I needed a
    coherent grep-able file for my .login-script that checks whose nameday
    is now. All typos are mine.
 
    ------- press n if you want to skip the following list --------

     
MM.DD. Names
-- --  -----
01.02. Aapeli	
01.03. Elmer, Elmo
01.04. Ruut	
01.05. Lea, Leea
01.06. Harri
01.07. Aki, Aku, August, Aukusti
01.08. Hilppa
01.09. Veijo, Veikko, Veli
01.10. Nyyrikki
01.11. Kari, Karri
01.12. Toini	
01.13. Nuutti
01.14. Sakari, Saku
01.15. Solja	
01.16. Ilmari, Ilmo
01.17. Anton, Antto, Anttoni, Toni
01.18. Laura
01.19. Heikki, Henri, Henrik, Henrikki
01.20. Henna, Henni, Henriikka
01.21. Aune, Auni
01.22. Visa
01.23. Eine, Eini, Enni
01.24. Senja	
01.25. Paavali, Paavo, Paul, Pauli
01.26. Raine, Raino
01.27. Viljo
01.28. Kaarle, Kaarlo, Kalle, Mies
01.29. Valtteri
01.30. Irja
01.31. Alli
02.01. Riitta
02.02. Aamu
02.03. Valo
02.04. Armi
02.05. Oivi
02.06. Tea, Teija, Terhi, Terhikki, Tiia
02.07. Rikhard, Riku
02.08. Laina
02.09. Raija, Raisa
02.10. Elina, Ella, Ellen, Elna
02.11. Talvikki
02.12. Elma, Elmi
02.13. Sulho, Sulo
02.14. Voitto
02.15. Sipi, Sippo
02.16. Kai
02.17. V�in�m�, V�in�
02.18. Kaino
02.19. Eija
02.20. Heli, Helin�, Helj�, Hely
02.21. Keijo
02.22. Tuuli, Tuulia, Tuulikki
02.23. Aslak
02.24. Matias, Matti
02.25. Tuija, Tuire
02.26. Nestori
02.27. Torsti
02.28. Onni
03.01. Alpi, Alpo, Alvi
03.02. Virva, Virve
03.03. Kauko
03.04. Ari, Arsi, Atro
03.05. Laila, Leila
03.06. Tarmo
03.07. Tarja, Taru
03.08. Vilppu
03.09. Auvo
03.10. Aura, Auri
03.11. Kalervo
03.12. Reijo
03.12. Reko
03.13. Ernesti, Tarvo
03.14. Matilda, Tilda
03.15. Risto
03.16. Ilkka
03.17. Kerttu, Kerttuli
03.18. Edvard, Eetu, Erno
03.19. Jooseppi, Juuso
03.20. Jaakkima
03.21. Pentti
03.22. Vihtori
03.23. Akseli
03.24. Gabriel, Kaappo, Kaapo, Kaapro
03.25. Aija
03.26. Immanuel, Manne, Manu
03.27. Immo, Saul, Sauli
03.28. Armas
03.29. Joni, Jonne, Jonni, Joonas, Jouni
03.30. Usko
03.31. Irma, Irmeli
04.01. Pulmu, Raita
04.02. Pellervo
04.03. Sampo
04.04. Ukko
04.05. Irene, Irina, Iro
04.06. Vilhelm, Vilho, Viljami, Ville
04.07. Ahvo, Allan
04.08. Suoma, Suometar
04.09. Eelis, Elias, Eljas
04.10. Tero
04.11. Verna
04.12. Julia, Julius
04.13. Tellervo
04.14. Taito
04.15. Linda, Tuomi
04.16. Jalo
04.17. Otto
04.18. Valdemar, Valto
04.19. Pilvi
04.20. Lauha
04.21. Anselmi, Anssi
04.22. Aliina
04.23. Jori, Jyri, Jyrki, Yrj�n�, Yrj�
04.24. Albert, Altti, Pertti
04.25. Markku, Marko, Markus
04.26. Terttu
04.27. Merja
04.28. Ilpo, Ilppo, Tuure
04.29. Teijo
04.30. Miia, Mira, Mirja, Mirjami, Mirka, Mirkka, Mirva
05.01. Valpuri, Vappu
05.02. Viivi, Vuokko
05.03. Outi
05.04. Ruusu
05.05. Maini
05.06. Ylermi
05.07. Helmi, Kastehelmi
05.08. Heino
05.09. Timo
05.10. Aina, Aini, Ainikki, Aino
05.11. Osmo
05.12. Lotta
05.13. Floora, Kukka
05.14. Tuula
05.15. Sofia, Sohvi, Sonja
05.16. Essi, Ester, Esteri
05.17. Maila, Maili, Mailis
05.18. Eerikki, Eero, Erkki
05.19. Amalia, Emilia, Emma, Emmi
05.20. Karoliina, Lilja, Lilli
05.21. Konsta, Konstantin, Kosti
05.22. Hemminki, Hemmo
05.23. Lyydia, Lyyli
05.24. Touko, Tuukka
05.25. Urpo
05.26. Mimmi, Minna, Vilhelmiina, Vilma
05.27. Ritva
05.28. Alma
05.29. Oiva
05.30. Pasi
05.31. Helena, Helka
06.01. Nikodemus, Teemu
06.02. Venla
06.03. Orvokki
06.04. Toivo
06.05. Sulevi
06.06. Kustavi, Ky�sti
06.07. Suvi
06.08. Salomo, Salomon
06.09. Ensio
06.10. Seppo
06.11. Immi, Impi
06.12. Esko
06.13. Raila, Raili
06.14. Kielo
06.15. Viena, Vieno
06.16. P�ivi, P�ivikki, P�iv�, P�lvi
06.17. Urho
06.18. Tapio
06.19. Siiri
06.20. Into
06.21. Ahti, Ahto
06.22. Paula, Pauliina
06.23. Aadolf, Aatto, Aatu	
06.24. Jani, Janne, Johannes, Juha, Juhana, Juhani, Juho, Jukka, Jussi
06.25. Uuno
06.26. Jarkko, Jarmo, Jarno, Jere, Jeremias, Jorma
06.27. Elvi
06.28. Leo
06.29. Pekka, Pekko, Petri, Petteri, Pietari
06.30. P�ivi�, P�iv�
07.01. Aaro, Aaron
07.02. Kukka-Maaria, Maaria, Maija, Maiju, Maikki, Mari, Maria, Marika, Meeri
07.03. Arvo
07.04. Ulla, Ulpu
07.05. Untamo, Unto
07.06. Esa, Esaias
07.07. Klaus, Launo
07.08. Turkka, Turo
07.09. Ilta
07.10. Saima, Saimi
07.11. Eleonoora, Elli, Noora
07.12. Herkko, Herman, Hermanni
07.13. Ilari, Joel
07.13. Lari
07.14. Aliisa
07.15. Rauna
07.15. Rauni
07.16. Reino
07.17. Ossi, Ossian
07.18. Riikka
07.19. Saara, Salla, Salli, Sari	
07.20. Maaret, Maarit, Margareeta, Marketta, Reeta, Reetta
07.21. Hanna, Hanne, Hannele, Jenni, Johanna, Jonna
07.22. Leena, Leeni, Lenita, Liina, Mataleena
07.23. Oili, Olga
07.24. Kirsi, Kirsti
07.24. Krista, Kristiina, Tiina
07.25. Jaakko, Jaakob, Jaakoppi
07.26. Martta
07.27. Heidi
07.28. Atso
07.29. Olavi, Olli, Uolevi
07.29. Uoti
07.30. Asta
07.31. Helena
08.01. Maire
08.02. Kimmo
08.03. Linnea, Vanamo
08.04. Veera
08.05. Salme, Sanelma
08.06. Toimi
08.07. Lahja
08.08. Silva, Sylvi, Sylvia
08.09. Eira, Erja
08.10. Lasse, Lassi, Lauri
08.11. Sanna, Sanni, Susanna
08.12. Klaara
08.13. Keimo
08.14. Onerva
08.15. Jaana, Marianna, Marianne, Marita, Maritta, Marja, Marjaana, Marjatta, Marjo, Marjukka, Marjut
08.16. Aulis
08.17. Verneri
08.18. Leevi
08.19. Mauno, Maunu
08.20. Samu, Samuel, Samuli, Sami
08.21. Soini, Veino
08.22. Iivari, Iivo
08.23. Signe, Varma
08.24. Perttu
08.25. Loviisa
08.26. Ilma, Ilmatar, Ilmi
08.27. Rauli, Vilja
08.28. Tauno
08.29. Iina, Iines, Inari
08.30. Eemeli, Eemil
08.31. Arvi
09.01. Pirkka
09.02. Sini, Sinikka
09.03. Soila, Soile, Soili
09.04. Ansa
09.05. Mainio
09.06. Asko
09.07. Arhippa, Arho
09.08. Taimi
09.09. Isto
09.10. Kaleva, Kalevi
09.11. Ale, Aleksanteri, Ali, Santeri
09.12. Valma
09.13. Orvo
09.14. Iida
09.15. Sirpa
09.16. Hilla, Hille, Hillevi
09.17. Aila, Aili
09.18. Tytti, Tyyne, Tyyni
09.19. Milja, Milla, Reija
09.20. Varpu
09.21. Mervi
09.23. Mielikki
09.24. Auno
09.25. Kullervo
09.26. Kuisma
09.27. Vesa
09.28. Arja
09.29. Miika, Miikka, Mika, Mikael, Mikko
09.30. Sirja, Sorja
10.01. Rauno
10.02. Valio
10.03. Raimo
10.04. Saija, Saila
10.05. Inka, Inkeri
10.06. Roine
10.07. Birgitta, Pirita, Piritta, Pirjo, Pirkko
10.08. Hilja
10.09. Ilona
10.10. Aleksi, Aleksis
10.11. Ohto, Otso
10.12. Aarre, Aarto
10.13. Taija, Taina
10.14. Elsa, Elsi
10.15. Helvi, Heta
10.16. Sirkka, Sirkku
10.17. Saana, Saini
10.18. Satu, S�de
10.19. Uljas
10.20. Kasperi, Kauno
10.21. Ursula
10.22. Anita, Anitta, Anja
10.23. Severi
10.24. Asmo
10.25. Sointu
10.26. Amanda, Manta, Niina
10.27. Helle, Helli, Hellin, Hell�, Hilkka
10.28. Simo
10.29. Urmas
10.30. Eila
10.31. Arto, Arttu, Artturi
11.01. Lyly
11.02. Topi, Topias
11.03. Terho
11.04. Hertta
11.05. Selma	
11.06. Kustaa, Kustaa Aadolf
11.07. Taisto
11.08. Aatos
11.09. Teuvo
11.10. Martti
11.11. Panu
11.12. Virpi
11.13. Ano, Kristian
11.14. Iiris
11.15. Vaula
11.16. Aarne, Aarni, Aarno, Hellevi
11.17. Einari, Eino
11.18. Jousia, Tenho
11.19. Eliisa, Elisa, Elisabet, Liisa, Liisi
11.20. Jalmari, Jari
11.21. Hilma
11.22. Selja, Silja
11.23. Klemetti
11.24. Lemmikki, Lempi, Sivi
11.25. Kaarina, Kaija, Kaisa, Kaisu, Katariina, Kati, Katja, Katri
11.26. Sisko
11.28. Heini
11.29. Aimo
11.30. Antero, Antti, Atte
12.01. Oskari
12.02. Anelma, Unelma
12.03. Meri, Vellamo
12.04. Aira, Airi
12.06. Niilo, Niko
12.07. Sampsa
12.08. Kylli, Kyllikki
12.09. Anna, Anne, Anneli, Anni, Annika, Annikki, Annukka, Anu
12.10. Ismo
12.11. Daniel, Taneli, Tatu
12.12. Tuovi
12.13. Seija
12.14. Jouko
12.15. Heimo
12.16. Auli, Aulikki
12.17. Raakel
12.18. Aapo, Aappo, Rami
12.19. Iiro, Iisakki, Ilkka, Isko
12.20. Kerkko
12.21. Tomi, Tommi, Tuomas, Tuomo
12.22. Raafael
12.23. Senni
12.24. Aatami, Eeva, Eevi, Eveliina
12.26. Tahvo, Tapani, Teppo
12.27. Hannes, Hannu
12.28. Piia
12.29. Rauha
12.30. Daavid, Taavetti, Taavi
12.31. Silvo, Sylvester
 
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77.45The most popular children's names in Sweden, 1991TLE::SAVAGEThu Jan 21 1993 10:1953
          Boys Names                           Girls Names

          1.Johan                             1.Emma
          2.Marcus                            2.Sara
          3.Andreas                           3.Malin
          4.Robin                             4.Anna
          5.Simon                             5.Johanna
          6.Fredrik                           6.Emelie
          7.Daniel                            7.Elin
          8.Viktor                            8.Sandra
          9.Erik                              9.Hanna
          10.Alexander                        10.Josefine
          11.Niklas                           11.Sofia
          12.Mattias                          12.Amanda
          13.Cristoffer                       13.Ida
          14.Joakim                           14.Caroline
          15.Emil                             15.Matilda
          16.Anton                            16.Jenny
          17.Martin                           17.Frida
          18.Philip                           18.Linnea
          19.Sebastian                        19.Sofie
          20.Tobias                           20.Rebecca
          21.Oskar                            21.Jessica
          22.Mikael                           22.Linda
          23.David                            23.Louise
          24.Jesper                           24.Julia
          25.Jonas                            25.Therese
          26.Carl                             26.Nathalie
          27.Jonathan                         27.Mikaela
          28.Patrik                           28.Maria
          29.Pontus                           29.Alexandra
          30.Adam                             30.Lisa
          31.Linus                            31.Erika
          32.Henrik                           32.Madeleine
          33.Jacob                            33.Jennifer
          34.Jimmy                            34.Victoria
          35.Rickard                          35.Linn
	  36.Christian			      36.Lina
	  37.Rasmus			      37.Cecilia
	  38.Robert			      38.Isabelle
	  39.Dennis			      39.Angelica
	  40.Gustav			      40.Sanna
	  41.Hampus			      41.Karin
	  42.Kim			      42.Camilla
	  43.Joel			      43.Lovisa
	  44.Tim			      44.Evelina
	  45.Jens			      45.Fanny
	  46.John			      46.Isabella
	  47.Max			      47.Martina
	  48.Magnus			      48.Moa
	  49.Andr�			      49.Marie
	  50.Peter			      50.Pernilla
77.46Sara spelled correctly!ITHIL::CHADHiThu Feb 04 1993 08:193
Aha!  Somebody else who spells Sara correctly!

Chad with a sister Sara
77.47More first namesJBPARK::PARKERJoan Parker, DPN Project MgrFri May 07 1993 17:177
Well, I haven't seen any of these names posted yet.  These are the names of 
my grandparents and some of their siblings....

	men:  Arvid, Axel, Bernt
      women:  Helmi, Alida, Augusta, Emily, Euphrosyne

Joan (3/4 Svenska)
77.48Norwegian Name Act of 1964 (extracts)TLE::SAVAGEMon Jun 28 1993 12:3752
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: [email protected] (Frode Milch Pedersen)
    Subject: Norwegian name policy (Was: Re: patronymics)
    Sender: [email protected] (NetNews Administrator)
    Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
    Date: Sat, 26 Jun 93 14:29:55 GMT
 
    To all of you referring to the Norwegian policy on personal names -
    This is the policy stated by the Name Act of 1964 (extracts):
 
  "As first names may not be chosen:      
   
    1. names that can be of inconvenience to the bearer of the name,
    2. names that are or have been last names and are not originally first 
       names."
 
  "Permission [to change last name] should normally not be granted for:
   
    1. names that sound foreign or with foreign spelling,
    2. names that are used as first names and not originally are last names,
    3. historical, extinct or foreign names, when the name is commonly known
       in Norway,
    4. names that can be offensive or be of inconvenience to the bearer of the
       name."
 
    "If a more common last name is applied for, it should be granted,
    unless special reasons say otherwise. If the last name does not belong
    to the more common, permission may only be  given with approval of the
    ones who already bear that last name."
 
    ("more common" means at least 500 bearers of the name, so if you want a
    less common name, you have to find all the bearers of it and ask for
    their written permission!)
 
    Further:
 
  "Permission should not be given when such a name is applied for, that it
   reminds of the name of a commonly known company, trade mark, or other
   protected name in Norway, or commonly known name of an institution,
   pseudonym, artist name, less common names of farms or similar, and it
   can be assumed that the rightful owner of the name might suffer if the
   applicant is allowed to take the name."
 
    and finally,
 
 "No one may use a name that he is not entitled to by this law. Neither may
  someone change the spelling of a legal name unless entitled to by this law."
 
    However it says nothing about what they'll do to you if you break this
    law!
 
  -- Frode