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Conference turris::languages

Title:Languages
Notice:Speaking In Tongues
Moderator:TLE::TOKLAS::FELDMAN
Created:Sat Jan 25 1986
Last Modified:Wed May 21 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:394
Total number of notes:2683

392.0. "new computing languages?" by MXOC00::JGUTIERREZ () Thu Mar 14 1996 12:24

    Hi,
    
    Does anybody know what new computing languages are there in the market?
    by new I mean recent languages, let's say no older than 2 years, as
    opposed to old languages: C, Fortan, Cobol ... ?
    
    I want to get information about these new languages for a meeting
    I am going to hold with a customer.
    
    Any pointer?
    
    Regards,
    
    Jorge
    
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392.1BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurThu Mar 14 1996 13:274
    Java?
    
    Does 'computing language' have a special meaning to you, or are you
    just talking about programming languages in general?
392.2Java is O.K.MXOC00::JGUTIERREZThu Mar 14 1996 17:3811
    Re: -.1
    Java looks like a recent language, so it's O.K. By computing language
    I meant programming languages in general. 
    Do you know if there are others that can be considered new ?
    I have been looking through notes(conferences) but found nothing so
    long.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Jorge
    
392.3BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurFri Mar 15 1996 08:385
    I guess it still depends on what you consider a "programming language"
    vs. something like a "command language" or "scripting language".
    
    Maybe things like perl and tcl would fulfill your criteria?
    
392.4to develop applications...MXOC00::JGUTIERREZFri Mar 15 1996 11:438
    Well, programming languages that can be used to develop applications
    would be more suitable for my case. Several areas could be considered,
    let's say object-oriented, declarative or procedural languages.
    
    thanx.
     
    
    
392.5DylanTLE::PUDERWindows 95 = Macintosh 89 + 8MBThu Mar 21 1996 15:1024
Dylan is a Dynamic Object-Oriented Language recently developed by Apple. (Get
it? DYnamic LANguage? Bob didn't.)

Compilers and development environments are now becoming available for several
platforms from several sources; not Apple, however, as they seem to have shelved
the project just when it should have been coming to fruition. A pity, as I have
a Mac, and the commercial vendors have concentrated on non-Apple platforms,
presuming that Apple would cover that base. Now I'll have to wait for a port to
the platform that should have been first.

Then again, I'm cheap, and freeware/shareware versions are available now, so I
shouldn't whine.

Apple has gone so far as to make the internal design notes available on the www,
and they have published the language reference manual.
<http://www.cambridge.apple.com/dylan/dylan.html>

My summary is that it's like C++ and LISP, leaving out the "bad" parts of both.
It looks enough like the Algol heritage languages to please most C programmers,
but inside it's a really fast Object Oriented, multiple-dispatch language:
clean, compilable architecture all the way rather than C++'s OO-like stuff
pasted onto record structures.

	:Karl.
392.6AUSSIE::GARSONachtentachtig kacheltjesThu Mar 21 1996 16:423
    re .5 (your personal name)
    
    (-: but wouldn't 6MB be better?